Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic

[SquidVicious]

You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s. 

[Pet shop boys]

still one of the worst back double bi's ever

Still a better bodybuilder than Phill though .


WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[simon]

You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s. 

that pic is about 4 years prior to Chris Clarks original synthol.  Esiclene was still available and 1000% more effective so there was no need for it to be invented/formulated yet. 

[BB]

It wasn't invented back then.

Indeed, the earliest online reference I could find for it was early 96, with the bulk of the talk starting in late 96, when Clark introduces Pump and Pose. Even if we allow for some time for it to pass up the gym grapevine, early 94 would've probably too early. Any oddness would probably be Esiclene and/or site injections.

Clark, the inventor of Synthol speakers about it at about the 4 minute in -

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The stickey wicket here is Hoeberl, Clark mentions him using some sort of oil other than Synthol, that was available in Germany in the 90's -

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He was around and did have those odd arms in the early 90's.

[TestDummy]

I remember reading an article about this that Dillet wrote inMD, he said he took so much diuretics he was pissing for 20 minutes straight in his hotel room before the show

[Grape Ape]

that pic is about 4 years prior to Chris Clarks original synthol.  Esiclene was still available and 1000% more effective so there was no need for it to be invented/formulated yet. 

Esicline caused mild inflammation - how is that more effective than synthol?

[illuminati]

Indeed, the earliest online reference I could find for it was early 96, with the bulk of the talk starting in late 96, when Clark introduces Pump and Pose. Even if we allow for some time for it to pass up the gym grapevine, early 94 would've probably too early. Any oddness would probably be Esiclene and/or site injections.

Clark, the inventor of Synthol speakers about it at about the 4 minute in -

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The stickey wicket here is Hoeberl, Clark mentions him using some sort of oil other than Synthol, that was available in Germany in the 90's -

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He was around and did have those odd arms in the early 90's.

This x2. What was Manfred injecting.
It didn't appear to harm his strength or more surprisingly
Cause muscle tears.
Considering he was doing the strongman events.. 

[_aj_]

Diuretics...cue the autopsy pic of Muntzer.

I think that somebody said it ITT or in another thread that maybe the "glazed donut" look that seems to be the norm in today's AAS+GH+slin BB contests is mildly more healthy than the over-depleted/diuretic look of the 80's/90's.

It doesn't take away from the fact that BB is not a sport of health. Not at all.

[ritch]

Also, Manfred did not abuse the shit like the dudes today. He had muscle before using it and used it to enhance his base.

[simon]

Esicline caused mild inflammation - how is that more effective than synthol?

Esiclene did not blur definition and often enhanced it.  Synthol not so much.  I used Chris Clark original synthol back then

[Grape Ape]

Esiclene did not blur definition and often enhanced it.  Synthol not so much.  I used Chris Clark original synthol back then

Gotcha,  from that standpoint I completely get it.  From a size context, I'm guessing it's different?

[bigmikecox]

Paul was going to DESTROY Kevin that year!!!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Guys were using oil before synthol...Some of these bozo's would take a 100ml bottle and put 50ml's of Esicline and 50mls of assorted oil(MCT, grapeseed, cottonseed ect) and shoot in the muscle. Usually arms and calves...The dude Clark who came up with Pump-n-pose didn't pull the idea out of thin air. He just made a product he knew would work and sell because he knew what guys were already doing...The first year Pump-n-pose came out, Jay Cutler allegedly was using as much as 100ml a month...Shooting oil goes back as far as the 70's.

[Parker]

Also, Manfred did not abuse the shit like the dudes today. He had muscle before using it and used it to enhance his base.

There was an interview of Manfred back in the 90s. The female writer had felt his arms---as he did a biceps pose. She had said that the bicep was not as firm as Robby Robinson's. Manfred was trying to save face.

I remember his book "10 minutes to Massive Arms"...and the cover having his arms, with smooth triceps.

[Parker]

Guys were using oil before synthol...Some of these bozo's would take a 100ml bottle and put 50ml's of Esicline and 50mls of assorted oil(MCT, grapeseed, cottonseed ect) and shoot in the muscle. Usually arms and calves...The dude Clark who came up with Pump-n-pose didn't pull the idea out of thin air. He just made a product he knew would work and sell because he knew what guys were already doing...The first year Pump-n-pose came out, Jay Cutler allegedly was using as much as 100ml a month...Shooting oil goes back as far as the 70's.

I believe in an interview Clark had said that Flex was interested in it.
Jay Cutler won his pro card in 96. And even as a NPC competitor his arms, delts have always looked the same. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying whatever he did it didn't change his look.

You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s. 

Gregg Valentino was mid 2000s.
Paul Dillett was West Coast. Esiclene was big with the West Coast boys (Flex and company) and Kevin Levrone.
From what was told on here, the supply started to dry up because several Pros were buying up or using almost all the product on the market. I don't know the full the story or if that was true or not.

What is true, is that Dillett eventually had shoulder issues, and had several operations. He mentioned in an interview that the doctors said that he literally had no more cartilage left, it was bone on bone.
This possibly means that he had ground down his cartilage? Which would point to him actually training shoulders. It doesn't mean he didn't shoot up his delts. But, it does point to someone who trains shoulders more than relying on foreign substances.

[Ronnie Rep]

I remember reading an article about this that Dillet wrote inMD, he said he took so much diuretics he was pissing for 20 minutes straight in his hotel room before the show

Yes it was Romano that gave him the lasix. It was verified by Peter Mcgough and Shawn Ray.

[Grape Ape]

What is true, is that Dillett eventually had shoulder issues, and had several operations. He mentioned in an interview that the doctors said that he literally had no more cartilage left, it was bone on bone.
This possibly means that he had ground down his cartilage? Which would point to him actually training shoulders. It doesn't mean he didn't shoot up his delts. But, it does point to someone who trains shoulders more than relying on foreign substances.

I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.

[Ronnie Rep]

I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.

I did the same thing from years of mainly doing forced reps on the bench many years ago. Hence the name "Ronnie Rep". I got tendinitis so bad in my right shoulder, I pretty much stopped training for over a year to let it heal.

[Parker]

I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.

Probably that as well.

Yes it was Romano that gave him the lasix. It was verified by Peter Mcgough and Shawn Ray.

Romano effs up everything he touches or gives to people. He could give a pet rock to someone and it would end up making them sick.

[Ronnie Rep]

I found a video from the contest but they're obviously not going to show that but fuck that noise , they show him in the prejudging and he doesn't even look all that lean & hard either

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/171af2b0ccdf7c64d72d/arnold-classic-1994



In the hours preceding the 1994 Arnold Classic prejudging on March 5th, heavily favored Paul Dillett--in pursuit of being drier than the Sahara in July -- was experiencing severe bouts of cramping. It later transpired that he had overdone one of the diuretics of choice of that era, which would set in motion a time bomb that would implode later in the day.


Early in the prejudging Paul went into a spasm around his obliques.

The 270-pounder's outward confidence as he walked onstage for the prejudging at 11:55am belied the acute discomfort he was undergoing. At 12:29pm, during the last callout of the symmetry round (the other two protagonists being Vince Taylor and Kevin Levrone), Dillett, with his back to the judging panel, tried to hit an impromptu double biceps pose. He raised his left arm and then locked it above his head as the oblique muscles on his left side went into a horrendous spasm. Unable to flex or lower his arm, Dillett lurched from the stage and slumped onto his back on a table in the recesses of the theater. Very soon, the stricken athlete was surrounded by a well-meaning group, among them a noncompeting Flex Wheeler who advised instant fluid intake. Dillett assured everyone that he was all right. "I'm not delirious or anything, you know," he said. "It's just a muscle spasm."

 A full 25 minutes elapsed before Dillett walked onstage again to execute his individual compulsories. His reappearance was greeted by tremendous applause and all hoped the crisis point had passed. With some difficulty, he completed his front double-biceps, front-lat and side-chest poses. Then, as he went into a back double-biceps pose, the 4,000 attendees gasped in


Later he totally collapsed and had to be carried unceremoniously offstage.

horror as the distressing scene they had witnessed 25 minutes earlier was repeated. Dillett grimaced and half screamed, "Oh, God!" (more in despair than pain) as a backstage marshal rushed to his aid. He still had his back to the audience as the marshal positioned himself to face Canada's biggest export since John Candy went Hollywood. Without anyone calling “Timber!” Paul took this as his cue to slump forward into the arms of the marshal, who was about six or seven inches shorter than the man he now fought to support. Three more marshals poured onstage and each grabbed a mighty Dillett limb and lifted him up. Unfortunately, he was facing downward, marooned in an ugly tableau of head-to-toe cramps that rendered him rigidly immobile. In this ungainly mode, Dillett's 270-pound physique was awkwardly lugged offstage. As an exit, the scene sort of lacked the grace and poise of the Pope being carried around St. Peter's Square in a sedan chair.

 NOT A DRY THIGH IN THE HOUSE

Stretched out behind the stage curtain, Paul was attended to by paramedics, who, with great difficulty, found a vein (Dillett was so dehydrated, all his surface veins had collapsed) in which to insert an IV drip. Throughout the trauma, Paul was completely coherent, and at no time did he display false heroics by talking of going on with the contest. It was his decision to be taken to the local hospital, to which he was ferried to at 1:25pm (with the prejudging in progress). He was released after three hours, and later appeared at the night show to tell the


Backstage waiting for paramedics.

audience how disappointed he was that he couldn't finish the contest, and flexing his mighty biceps added that when, “I return next year I will look disgusting!” (Only in bodybuilding are such statements looked upon with anticipatory approval.)

 In my original report of the incident, I wrote: "It can be argued that whatever torment Paul Dillett had endured, he inflicted it upon himself. (As well as his physical discomfort, there is the fiscal pain of the potential $90,000 winner's check that could well have been his as before his collapse he was pushing eventual winner Kevin Levrone and runner-up Vince Taylor all in the way.) But during the last two years, there has been a succession of bodybuilding


Even in silhouette Paul Dillett presented one hell of a physique.

casualties of varying degrees due to the demon of excessive water depletion. In the hunger for glory, competitors are willing to up the ante to any level in pursuit of first place. It seems the groundswell of pushing athletes to ever more arid levels is growing alarmingly.”

 The truth is that as the Arnold Classic throng watched Dillett’s gyrations just about everyone present was mindful that less than 18 months previously Momo Benaziza had died hours after the Dutch Grand Prix due to a heart attack brought on by severe dehydration of the type they saw on display in Columbus. And that in the past year Mike Matarazzo and Edgar Fletcher had visited death’s door in pursuit of ultimate dryness.

Look at Dillett's left arm in that shot. Just insane.

[Papper]

Wait a minute,,, These guys look way better than the guys today? How is that possible

[MAXX]

This x2. What was Manfred injecting.
It didn't appear to harm his strength or more surprisingly
Cause muscle tears.
Considering he was doing the strongman events.. 

he did tear his bicep later in his "career"

3:34 you can see him flexing his torn bicep. Proximal bicep rupture aka popeye tear.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Why couldn't the fucker pose?

[SquidVicious]

You've got to be a retard to look at that comparison pic of Dillett, Ray and Levrone and not know with 100% certainty that Dillett has a half gallon of oil in his rear delt. How else do you explain this 'muscle' being about 5-6 times larger than both Ray and Levrone? Or did he just know one of the secret Weider principles? It looks exactly like Valentino's phony rear delts.

[Parker]

You've got to be a retard to look at that comparison pic of Dillett, Ray and Levrone and not know with 100% certainty that Dillett has a half gallon of oil in his rear delt. How else do you explain this 'muscle' being about 5-6 times larger than both Ray and Levrone? Or did he just know one of the secret Weider principles? It looks exactly like Valentino's phony rear delts.

you got to be blind not to see that Dillett is smooth throughout his whole back---quads included.

How to explain how Dillett's muscles are 5-6 times bigger than Ray's or Levrone's? Well, not 5-6 times bigger than Levrone, but Ray is 205 listed at 5'7, but really 5'6, and Dillett is 270, and 6'1. So that accounts for something.

When Dillett was dry you saw it. Dude is smooth as hell. And no, his delts don't look like Gregg's. I don't even think Flex in his latter years looks had Gregg's look.
A hallmark of the "oil" look, like Flex had, was the look of bee sting full round delts. Dillett didn't have that. And he had slump shoulders---like Arnold.
In the pic, you there is separation between each head (left side)...but he is smooth throughout his back region.
Large traps, back detail stops upper mid back.
Smooth, all up and down