US debt breakdown .. whos to blame?.. last 6 president listed.

[gmflex]

This will settle the debate on who has added the most money to the national debt..


http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm?utm_source=zergnet&utm_medium=tcg&utm_campaign=zergnet-test-423616

[Necrosis]

This will settle the debate on who has added the most money to the national debt..


http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm?utm_source=zergnet&utm_medium=tcg&utm_campaign=zergnet-test-423616

Doesn't really break it down now does it, where is Bush? they are attributing Bush's wars to Obama, it was money accounted for before he took office. This is the sly reason Bush' figures aren't spelled out.

[_aj_]

Booooooooooossssssssshhh hhhhhh!!!!!

Says every liberal confronted with facts.

[Coach is Back!]

"It's Bush's fault" lol

[Necrosis]

Booooooooooossssssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Says every liberal confronted with facts.

What facts? the bush wars are being attributed to Obama here, would you agree that spent money Obama had no dealings in should be in fact counted towards his total allotment. If say obama wars with IRAN or say russia near the end of his term, should we count that as his spending or the next president as we are doing here?

I don't care either way, there is a reason this article is written the way it is, there is a reason Bush's totals are MIA.

[Necrosis]

"It's Bush's fault" lol

If you are going to look at the numbers you might as well try and stick with reality. Just posting numbers with no context or that are partially incorrect doesn't help anyone.

I also wouldn't blame anyone, each president had unique circumstances etc, it has to be a more complex breakdown. Bush inherited a surplus, and raped it. He put the US into the GREAT RECESSION, you think Obama would of done a stimulus had he inherited what Bush did? no, it was in response to the failing economy or the biggest recession in history. Same after the depression etc.

[Coach is Back!]

If you are going to look at the numbers you might as well try and stick with reality. Just posting numbers with no context or that are partially incorrect doesn't help anyone.

I also wouldn't blame anyone, each president had unique circumstances etc, it has to be a more complex breakdown. Bush inherited a surplus, and raped it. He put the US into the GREAT RECESSION, you think Obama would of done a stimulus had he inherited what Bush did? no, it was in response to the failing economy or the biggest recession in history. Same after the depression etc.

Yes, even to this day "it's bushs fault" Lmao

[muscularny]

If you are going to look at the numbers you might as well try and stick with reality. Just posting numbers with no context or that are partially incorrect doesn't help anyone.

I also wouldn't blame anyone, each president had unique circumstances etc, it has to be a more complex breakdown. Bush inherited a surplus, and raped it. He put the US into the GREAT RECESSION, you think Obama would of done a stimulus had he inherited what Bush did? no, it was in response to the failing economy or the biggest recession in history. Same after the depression etc.

Tell everyone please who pushed and forced banks to allow people to buy homes that didnt have 20% down?

Do you understand that the number one factor to the destruction of the economy was giving people 100-104% financing to buy a home?

[Wiggs]

What not so enlightened people like Coach doesn't understand is that the same people that control the Democraps, control the Republicants. It doesn't matter who racked up more debt.  What should be asked is how in the hell did we allow a Central Bank to print our money when it wasn't needed.  And how in the hell did we allow our money to be taken off the gold standard to be printed with no regard.  These are the questions that should be asked.  Not which puppet spent the most.  It doesn't matter, they're puppets.

[Coach is Back!]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briandomitrovic/2013/10/01/obamas-economy-is-worse-than-bushs-by-obamas-own-numbers/

[affeman]

haha as if it would make any difference if the actor who plays the president had another name, party or skin colour.

It all goes to plan.

[240 is Back]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briandomitrovic/2013/10/01/obamas-economy-is-worse-than-bushs-by-obamas-own-numbers/

it's really like asking which of these 2 pieces of dog shit tastes worse.  We can argue about it all day, but nether of them is chocolate pudding, it's just 2 dog turds we're discussing here.

[DanM]

What not so enlightened people like Coach doesn't understand is that the same people that control the Democraps, control the Republicants. It doesn't matter who racked up more dept.  What should be asked is how in the hell did we allow a Central Bank to print our money when it wasn't needed.  And how in the hell did we allow our money to be taken off the gold standard to be printed with no regard.  These are the questions that should be asked.  Not which puppet spent the most.  It doesn't matter, they're puppets.

Exactly this

[Coach is Back!]

It always makes sense to add taxes, print money, extend benefits and borrow money. It always results in a long term solution. I think I'll try that with my own finances.

[The Ugly]

Tell everyone please who pushed and forced banks to allow people to buy homes that didnt have 20% down?

Do you understand that the number one factor to the destruction of the economy was giving people 100-104% financing to buy a home?

Hard to overlook, yeah.

[2Thick]

Tell everyone please who pushed and forced banks to allow people to buy homes that didnt have 20% down?

Do you understand that the number one factor to the destruction of the economy was giving people 100-104% financing to buy a home?

This.

And I'll never understand why so many damned foreigners are so obsessed with US politics and with defending Obama since he took office.

[Wiggs]

Tell everyone please who pushed and forced banks to allow people to buy homes that didnt have 20% down?

Do you understand that the number one factor to the destruction of the economy was giving people 100-104% financing to buy a home?

Blame Clinton for that.  That was him.  As I stated, it doesn't matter who is in office.  These bubbles are created on purpose and exploded at certain times, on purpose. Now you have student loan bubble, derivatives bubble, car loan bubbles. 

The housing collapse/bubble was on purpose. 

[Walter Sobchak]

If you are going to look at the numbers you might as well try and stick with reality. Just posting numbers with no context or that are partially incorrect doesn't help anyone.

I also wouldn't blame anyone, each president had unique circumstances etc, it has to be a more complex breakdown. Bush inherited a surplus, and raped it. He put the US into the GREAT RECESSION, you think Obama would of done a stimulus had he inherited what Bush did? no, it was in response to the failing economy or the biggest recession in history. Same after the depression etc.

Bush did not inherit a budget surplus. That is Clinton bullshit and manipulation of how the debt was accounted.

The Clinton budget surplus myth has been disproven countless times.

[Thong Maniac]

"It's Bush's fault" lol

Lol sounds pretty familiar to your hyper political favorite team rooting/cheering...everything is "obamas fault!"

[Thong Maniac]

Love all the experts in here, so wise, so educated, always right...

Amazing intellect and skills

[Natural Man]

since when a president is directly linked to the status of the economy ?  Megacorporations manage the world economy, not politicians, dumbfuck(s). And megacorporations also select your "options", "choices" and finance their campaigns and careers.

[Thong Maniac]

since when a president is directly linked to the status of the economy ?  Megacorporations manage the world economy, not politicians, dumbfuck(s). And megacorporations also select your "options", "choices" and finance their campaigns and careers.

Thank you. Morons here and everywhere else live and die by their "team/president" winning. Pro sports/entertainment for the masses. Oh well, it gives bitter people without hobbies something to concern themselves with.

[timfogarty]

for those who don't want to read the article

[calfzilla]

lol both bush and Obama have done poorly just in different ways.

Bush by war mongering after 911. Starting two pointless wars after 9/11 instead of just firing off a few miscles into an al queda training camp.

And Obama is the stereotypical liberal who spends spends spends. He has to buy support off the poor and illegal immigrants by giving out a bunch of entitlements. All the while he grows the national debt without any thought of cutting back or getting out of debt.

[timfogarty]

And Obama is the stereotypical liberal who spends spends spends. He has to buy support off the poor and illegal immigrants by giving out a bunch of entitlements.

please list these new entitlements being given to the poor and immigrants, and then compare to the amount being spent on defense and corporate welfare.