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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2016, 01:43:24 PM »

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #151 on: March 21, 2016, 02:16:17 PM »
Sounding pretty desperate. 

Conservative Allies Look Into Third-Party Presidential Nominees


Image: Conservative Allies Look Into Third-Party Presidential Nominees  Former Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn. (AP)
By Joe Crowe   |    Monday, 21 Mar 2016

Some conservative leaders are looking into a campaign to set up a third-party candidate for president, according to a memo circulated by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, reports The New York Times.

Former Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry were mentioned as potential nominees. Coburn has said Trump "needs to be stopped."

Coburn told NewsOK, "The Times is wrong," and when asked if he was interested in running for president, Coburn said, "No."

Perry has said he remains committed to supporting Ted Cruz.

The first line of attack, according to the Times, requires delegate-by-delegate lobbying, if Trump does not come into the convention with the necessary 1,237 delegates required for the nomination.

Dave McIntosh, president of the Club for Growth said there remains a "winnable race" for a "free-market conservative that's not Donald Trump."

An independent candidate could get on the ballot in dozens of states, or seek the Libertarian Party's nomination. Libertarian Party Chairman Nicholas Sarwark said the party might be open to a new candidate, "but you'd better be a pretty impressive man off the street."

The third-party plan, according to Breitbart News, could lead to a vote split that would benefit the Democratic presidential nominee.

 However, that loss would also keep the Republican Party out of Trump's control. 

 In an interview with Breitbart News, Newt Gingrich said Kristol's brokered-convention plan could not "magically change the trajectory of history" and "it's goofy."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/conservative-allies-third-party-nominees/2016/03/21/id/720090/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #152 on: March 23, 2016, 05:02:00 PM »
Fox News Poll: Cruz, Kasich ahead of Clinton in 2016 hypothetical matchups
By  Dana Blanton 
Published March 23, 2016
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Republicans are eager to win back the White House in 2016.  A new Fox News national poll finds both John Kasich and Ted Cruz ahead of Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton in hypothetical matchups, while Donald Trump trails her.

Kasich does best against Clinton.  He has a double-digit advantage and also comes in above the 50 percent mark:  51 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

Cruz is preferred over Clinton by three percentage points (47-44 percent).

Clinton tops GOP front-runner Donald Trump by 11 points (49-38 percent).

CLICK HERE TO READ THE POLL RESULTS

The Ohio governor’s advantage comes mostly from independents; they support him over Clinton by 36 points.  Plus, Kasich steals the largest number of Democrats (17 percent).

Kasich and Cruz also outperform Trump against Bernie Sanders. The Democrat leads Trump by 14 points -- and tops Cruz by a narrower four-point margin.  Kasich has a one-point edge over Sanders (44-43 percent).

Slightly more voters would be satisfied if the presidential race is ultimately a Clinton-Cruz matchup (72 percent satisfied with their candidate choices) than if it ends up being Clinton and Trump (67 percent satisfied).

If it is Clinton-Trump in November, more than four in 10 Cruz supporters say they would seriously consider voting for a third party candidate (34 percent) or just stay home (10 percent).  (There are too few Kasich supporters to facilitate a comparable breakout.)

Overall, only 16 percent of voters would feel “enthusiastic” if Clinton were to become the next president.  Even so, that’s enough for a “win” on this measure.  Fourteen percent would feel “enthusiastic” about a Sanders win, and 13 percent each about a Cruz or Trump win.

Almost half of all voters would feel “scared” if Trump (49 percent) were to win the White House, while 33 percent say the same about Clinton.  Trump has the largest number of Republicans saying they would feel scared if he wins (25 percent), while Kasich has the smallest (7 percent).

More Republicans would feel “enthusiastic” or “pleased” with a Cruz win (57 percent), than with a Kasich (48 percent) or Trump (51 percent) victory.

By comparison, 72 percent of Democrats would feel “enthusiastic” or “pleased” if Clinton won.  And Sanders is close behind at 61 percent.

Kasich is the only candidate who receives more positive reactions (enthusiastic/pleased) to him winning than negative ones (displeased/scared).  In addition, more voters -- some 37 percent -- would feel “neutral” about him becoming president than say the same of any other candidate.

When it comes to picking justices for the U.S. Supreme Court, majorities of Americans feel confident with Kasich (62 percent), Cruz (55 percent), and Sanders (54 percent).  Half feel confident about Clinton (50 percent) making those decisions, and fewer than 4 in 10 say the same about Trump (38 percent).

Honest & Trustworthy

The two current front-runners are also battling for the worst honesty ratings:  64 percent of voters say Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, while 65 percent feel that way about Trump.

Some 34 percent say Clinton is honest (a new low) and 64 percent say she’s not (a new high) -- for a net negative honesty rating of 30 points.  Trump’s net rating is about the same (-32 points).

Cruz (+2 points), Kasich (+38 points), and Sanders (+39 points) each get positive honesty scores.

Sanders (+71 points) dwarfs Clinton (+39 points) on net honesty among self-identified Democrats.

Among self-identified Republicans, each of the GOP candidates has a net positive honesty score, yet there is significant range in the scores: Kasich (+58 points), Cruz (+40 points), and Trump (+14 points).

Pollpourri

When the two leading major party candidates are distrusted by a majority of voters, it’s no wonder 82 percent of voters say they are nervous about American politics, while 11 percent are feeling confident.

Nearly three times as many are confident about the economy today (30 percent).

To be sure, people still have economic jitters:  61 percent are nervous about the economy, up a bit from 55 percent a year ago (March 2015).  Nervousness hit a high of 70 percent in 2010.

Republicans are about twice as likely as Democrats to feel nervous about the economy, however roughly 8 in 10 Republicans, Democrats, and independents alike are worried about American politics.

Some 49 percent of Democrats are confident about the economy, down from 61 percent last year.

Most Republicans continue to feel uneasy:  81 percent now compared to 75 percent in 2015.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cellphone interviews with 1,016 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from March 20-22, 2016. The full sample has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/23/fox-news-poll-cruz-kasich-ahead-clinton-in-2016-hypothetical-matchups.html?intcmp=hpbt3

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #153 on: March 24, 2016, 10:46:11 AM »
Fox News Poll: Cruz, Trump Statistically Tied

Image: Fox News Poll: Cruz, Trump Statistically Tied 
By Greg Richter   |   Wednesday, 23 Mar 2016

A new Fox News polls shows Texas Sen. Ted Cruz only three points behind GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump nationally, which is within the poll's five-point margin of error.

The poll of likely Republican primary voters:

•   Donald Trump: 41 percent
•   Ted Cruz: 38 percent
•   John Kasich: 17 percent

The poll was conducted March 20-22 and talked to 388 Republican primary voters.

But the poll showed Kasich, whose only hope at getting the nomination would be in a contested convention, has the best chance of beating expected Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. Trump would lose to Clinton if the election will held today, according to the poll.

•   Kasich 51 pecent/Clinton 40 percent
•   Cruz 47 percent/Clinton 44 percent
•   Trump 38 percent/Clinton 49 percent

That portion of the poll, also taken March 20-22, talked to 1,016 registered voters and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3 percent.

Cruz has been tied or outperforming Clinton in head-to-head matchups in several recent polls while the same polls show Trump would lose to her.

Quinnipiac, CBS/New York Times, CNN/ORC, and NBC News/Wall Street Journal polls conducted in March all show a statistical or near-statistical tie. Only a Bloomberg poll conducted in recent days showed Clinton ahead nine points, which is above the 3.4 percent margin of error.

Cruz has consistently risen in head-to-heads with Clinton since he trailed her by double digits in July.

Meanwhile, all head-to-heads between Trump and Clinton taken during at least part of March show Trump trailing Clinton between five and 18 points, and all are outside the margin of error.

The most recent poll showing Trump ahead is a USA Today/Suffolk University poll from late February where he was ahead by 2 points, inside the poll's 3-point margin of error.

The most recent poll showing Trump beating Clinton outside the margin of error is a November Fox News poll where he bested her by 5 points. The margin of error was 4 points.

It is that poll that Trump still cites when his trailing Clinton in head-to-head polls is mentioned.

Kasich has led Clinton by 3 to 11 points since mid-February, but he already has been mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination on a first convention ballot. He is staying in the race in an apparent bid to take the nomination in a contested convention.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-trump-statistical-tie/2016/03/23/id/720580/#ixzz43qMN7auf

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #154 on: March 29, 2016, 09:59:57 AM »
Why not?  Would make that joke of a general election even bigger.

PAC: Franken for Hillary VP; 'Perfect Tonic to Trump's Coarse Broadsides'

Image: PAC: Franken for Hillary VP; 'Perfect Tonic to Trump's Coarse Broadsides' (Photo by Theo Wargo/Getty Images For The Writers Guild of America)
Monday, 28 Mar 2016

Sen. Al Franken should be tapped to be Hillary Clinton's vice presidential running mate, says Bill Scher, senior writer for the progressive political advocacy group Campaign for America's Future.

"For a 2016 presidential race that's already stranger than fiction, his party truly needs someone like Franken if it's going to win the presidency," Scher says of the Minnesota Democrat and former "Saturday Night Live" comic in a column written for Politico.

"[Donald] Trump's presence demands new rhetorical weaponry. As Trump himself might say, Franken's 'classy' and 'elegant' wit is just what the ticket needs to avoid the kind of brawl that drags everyone down to Trump's level.

As well, writes Scher, it would allow Clinton to remain "above the fray," with the quick-witted Franken there to "provide the buffer."

"Franken has worked hard to prove he is a detail-oriented, issues-driven senator, not a political novelty act," Scher says.

"Furthermore, his style of humor is deadpan and wry, the perfect tonic to Trump's coarse broadsides. He'll have no need or inclination to get sucked into the gutter, the way Rubio did, just to get a piece of the daily news cycle."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/hillary-clinton-vice-president-al-franken-democrat/2016/03/28/id/721192/#ixzz44JNsEavQ

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #155 on: March 29, 2016, 06:47:33 PM »
Pay attention Trump supporters.

Nate Silver
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Here's what the map might look like in an election held today. Trump's Rust Belt strength would help him keep MO, IN



Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538  · Mar 24 

BTW, a lot could change. Clinton can't take anything for granted. But that's about what a 10-11% Dem win would look like these days.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/713036414745575424/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #156 on: March 29, 2016, 07:19:45 PM »
Pay attention Trump supporters.

Nate Silver
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Here's what the map might look like in an election held today. Trump's Rust Belt strength would help him keep MO, IN



Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538  · Mar 24 

BTW, a lot could change. Clinton can't take anything for granted. But that's about what a 10-11% Dem win would look like these days.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/713036414745575424/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Nate has been wrong about Trump for months now, like some other people on this sub-forum

At some point you have to realize when you are continually wrong people don't you very serious.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #157 on: March 29, 2016, 07:23:01 PM »
Nate has been wrong about Trump for months now, like some other people on this sub-forum

At some point you have to realize when you are continually wrong people don't you very serious.

lol  You sound like those Ron Paul supporters from a few years ago.  Smoke and mirrors.  Plug your ears.  Cover your eyes.   

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #158 on: March 29, 2016, 07:24:12 PM »
lol  You sound like those Ron Paul supporters from a few years ago.  Smoke and mirrors.  Plug your ears.  Cover your eyes.    

Why?

The guy has been dead wrong for months now.

Would you give the ball to the guy who has missed the last 13 shots in a row when the game is on the line?

I wouldn't.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #159 on: March 29, 2016, 07:30:27 PM »
Why?

The guy has been dead wrong for months now.

Would you give the ball to the guy who has missed the last 13 shots in a row when the game is on the line?

I wouldn't.

Are you high?  Silver has been spot on about almost everything.  The only thing he missed badly was Sanders winning Michigan, which everyone missed.  Other than that, his projections have been incredibly accurate. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #160 on: March 29, 2016, 07:40:36 PM »
Are you high?  Silver has been spot on about almost everything.  The only thing he missed badly was Sanders winning Michigan, which everyone missed.  Other than that, his projections have been incredibly accurate.  

No, I'm not high just repeating what is already well known by people who follow politics.

I could literally cut and paste similar articles all day long. There are these two things known as REALITY and GOOGLE which do exist.

If Nate Silver's political predictions were a basketball team they would be The Washington Generals.

He has been terrible and he has lost a ton of credibility.



Nate Silver: Trump Has About 5% Chance Of Winning


Statistician and writer Nate Silver joins Anderson Cooper to share his evaluation of the Trump campaign.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: You might have noticed, we talked a bit about polls around here, so does Donald Trump, so do all kinds of candidates whether they're gaining or boasting or slipping and complaining. For better or worse, polling drives the conversation right now and a new conversation started comes out pretty much daily.

Our next guest made his reputation by picking the right polling data and using it much more -- well to make much more accurate predictions, extremely accurate predictions. Nate Silver, FiveThirtyEight.com joins us tonight to talk about what the numbers can and can't say right now about the state of the race.

So it's really fascinating because you put the chance of Donald Trump or Ben Carson actually getting the GOP nomination and put it around 5 percent.

NATE SILVER, FIVETHIRTYEIGHT: Maybe about 5 percent each, somewhere around there.

COOPER: Why so low?

SILVER: So there are couple things to think about. One is that if you look back at history, you've never seen candidates like Donald Trump certainly or Ben Carson win a party nomination. And secondly, if you look at the polling, a lot of times a candidate who is leading the polls now mid-September didn't win the nomination, didn't even come close. So if you look four years ago, Rick Perry was in the midst of a surge right now. Eight years ago on the democratic side, you had Howard Dean or 12 years ago rather, Howard Dean was surging, Hillary Clinton was still away ahead of Barack Obama in 2008. Rudy Giuliani was leading the polls in 2008. I think people, there's so much interest in this election, in this campaign, people forget that polls five months before Iowa historically have told you very, very little.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #161 on: March 29, 2016, 08:35:00 PM »
No, I'm not high just repeating what is already well known by people who follow politics.

I could literally cut and paste similar articles all day long. There are these two things known as REALITY and GOOGLE which do exist.

If Nate Silver's political predictions were a basketball team they would be The Washington Generals.

He has been terrible and he has lost a ton of credibility.



Nate Silver: Trump Has About 5% Chance Of Winning


Statistician and writer Nate Silver joins Anderson Cooper to share his evaluation of the Trump campaign.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: You might have noticed, we talked a bit about polls around here, so does Donald Trump, so do all kinds of candidates whether they're gaining or boasting or slipping and complaining. For better or worse, polling drives the conversation right now and a new conversation started comes out pretty much daily.

Our next guest made his reputation by picking the right polling data and using it much more -- well to make much more accurate predictions, extremely accurate predictions. Nate Silver, FiveThirtyEight.com joins us tonight to talk about what the numbers can and can't say right now about the state of the race.

So it's really fascinating because you put the chance of Donald Trump or Ben Carson actually getting the GOP nomination and put it around 5 percent.

NATE SILVER, FIVETHIRTYEIGHT: Maybe about 5 percent each, somewhere around there.

COOPER: Why so low?

SILVER: So there are couple things to think about. One is that if you look back at history, you've never seen candidates like Donald Trump certainly or Ben Carson win a party nomination. And secondly, if you look at the polling, a lot of times a candidate who is leading the polls now mid-September didn't win the nomination, didn't even come close. So if you look four years ago, Rick Perry was in the midst of a surge right now. Eight years ago on the democratic side, you had Howard Dean or 12 years ago rather, Howard Dean was surging, Hillary Clinton was still away ahead of Barack Obama in 2008. Rudy Giuliani was leading the polls in 2008. I think people, there's so much interest in this election, in this campaign, people forget that polls five months before Iowa historically have told you very, very little.


Ok now you're just trolling.  You pulled a discussion from September, six months ago, when everyone and their mother gave Trump no chance?  Pitiful.  No wonder you didn't include a link. 

And somehow, this prediction trumps (so to speak) how Silver has since nailed nearly every primary and caucus in the race.  Dude you are wasting my time.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #162 on: March 29, 2016, 08:51:53 PM »
Ok now you're just trolling.  You pulled a discussion from September, six months ago, when everyone and their mother gave Trump no chance?  Pitiful.  No wonder you didn't include a link. 

And somehow, this prediction trumps (so to speak) how Silver has since nailed nearly every primary and caucus in the race.  Dude you are wasting my time.

Well except me

Trolling?

Your track record has been TERRIBLE here lately. Just dead wrong with predictions for months and months on end.

I think Jeb or Rubio is gonna be the nominee  ;D :D

You are missing the boat by a mile by focusing on the trivial stuff like period jokes and making fun of peoples disabilities. From Reagan all the way up to Obama, each one of those guys just had that "it" factor. It's hard to explain but the way W had that folksy charm. He was the guy you are excited to hear is coming to the party because he's just a likable person. Obama the way he energized the minorities and youth. Clinton with his political astuteness. They all just had that rare form of charisma that got people off their asses and to the ballots to put them in office.

Look at the latest Trump interview on Face The Nation. He OWNS that reporter and controls the interview for the entire 17 minutes. Say what you want about his politics, Trump is an incredible communicator.



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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #163 on: March 29, 2016, 09:19:10 PM »
Well except me

Trolling?

Your track record has been TERRIBLE here lately. Just dead wrong with predictions for months and months on end.

I think Jeb or Rubio is gonna be the nominee  ;D :D


I would say nice try, but it's incredibly weak.  You are making an absolute fool of yourself by saying Silver is always wrong.  To try and escape that ridiculous assertion, you try and make it about my predictions.  Two problems.  No. 1, I never claimed to be some kind of accurate prognosticator, and I don't get paid to make predictions.  I'm wrong quite a bit (case in point Obama's reelection).  No. 2., this is about your claim that Nate Silver is always wrong.  You should never go full retard. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #164 on: March 31, 2016, 10:14:47 AM »
Pay attention Trump supporters.

Nate Silver
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Here's what the map might look like in an election held today. Trump's Rust Belt strength would help him keep MO, IN



Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538  · Mar 24 

BTW, a lot could change. Clinton can't take anything for granted. But that's about what a 10-11% Dem win would look like these days.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/713036414745575424/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

More confirmation that Trump would lose to Hillary:

Sabato Crystal Ball: Landslide for Hillary in Trump Race

Image: Sabato Crystal Ball: Landslide for Hillary in Trump Race
By Cathy Burke   |   Thursday, 31 Mar 2016

Longtime political analyst Larry Sabato is predicting an electoral college blowout for Hillary Clinton in a November general election matchup with current GOP front-runner Donald Trump.

In the University of Virginia political science professor's "Crystal Ball" prediction, the Democratic presidential front-runner beats Trump 347-191.

"Here at the Crystal Ball, we are going to cling to one central fact about presidential elections: The only thing that matters is accumulating a majority of 270 votes in the Electoral College," Sabato writes.

Sabato's first map shows a close, competitive race in a matchup with a generic Democrat versus Republican matchup.


CystalBall-Map-1.png

Map two is shows Republicans "in a deep hole" when the contestants are Clinton and Trump.


CrystalBall-Map-2.png

Although a Clinton-Trump matchup could be an "electoral embarrassment" for the GOP, Sabato writes that because of the political polarization in the country, Clinton would likely take less than 55 percent of the two-party vote.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/larry-sabato-crystal-ball-landslide-hillary/2016/03/31/id/721650/#ixzz44V9vhrFp

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #165 on: April 05, 2016, 10:10:17 AM »
Economic models predict GOP White House, even with Trump
By Vicki Needham - 04/04/16

Republicans are expected to win the White House under two economic models that have accurately forecast presidential elections for decades.

A third model run by Moody’s Analytics predicts Democrats will win the White House, in part because of President Obama’s rising approval rating.

The three models are being challenged like never before by the presence of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump, whose campaign has shaken up politics.

Trump’s fights with Ted Cruz and his other GOP rivals have electrified his supporters but have turned off other voters. A Washington Post-ABC poll last week found that 67 percent of registered voters held an unfavorable view of the outspoken billionaire. That has given hope to Democrats that even with a weakened Hillary Clinton as their nominee, their party could cruise to victory.

“As economists this is a very unusual election and there’s a lot more uncertainty introduced this time around that could upset the balance and the historical relationship of how marginal voters vote,” said Dan White, an economist with Moody’s Analytics who oversees the firm’s monthly election model.

Ray Fair, a Yale professor who launched his model in 1978, told The Hill that while all elections include unruly features that an economic model can’t pick up, “this one seems particularly unusual.”

“If there’s any time in which personalities would trump the economy it would be this election,” Fair said.

Fair’s model has correctly forecast all but three presidential races since 1916 but was wrong in 2012, when it predicted a narrow loss for Obama to Mitt Romney.

It relies on just three pieces of information: per capita growth rate of gross domestic product in the three quarters before an election, inflation over the entire presidential term and the number of quarters during the term growth per capita exceeds 3.2 percent.

Given the sluggish economy, his model doesn’t show enough growth under Obama to predict a Democratic win in the election. In his most recent forecast from January, his model predicted a 45.66 percent share of the presidential vote for the Democratic candidate, less than the 49 percent it predicted in 2012.

The other two models, unlike Fair’s, consider the incumbent president’s approval rating. In both cases, Obama’s improving favorability helps his party’s chances of winning the White House. But only one of those models predicts a Democratic win.

Emory University’s Alan Abramowitz, whose model has correctly predicted every outcome since 1992, forecasts a Republican win.

It measures the incumbent president's job-approval rating by the end of June of the election year; the economy's growth during the first half of year, especially during the second quarter; and how long the incumbent party has been in the White House.

By this methodology, the Democratic candidate can expect to receive 48.7 percent of the vote — with Obama's approval rating at 50 percent — according to his most recent calculation.

But since that prediction, Obama’s approval rating has ticked up to 52 percent.

Moody’s arrives at a similar result, but one that is better for Democrats.

That model, which hasn’t missed an election since it was created in 1980, awards Electoral College votes to each party based on state-by-state outcomes. The most important economic variable is income growth by state, including job and wage growth, hours worked and the quality of the jobs being created in the two years leading up to an election. The model also factors in home and gasoline prices on a state level, as well as presidential approval numbers.

The Moody’s equation also includes an additional dummy variable that penalizes Democrat incumbents, stemming from the theory that Democrats and Democrat-leaning independent voters are more likely to switch sides and vote for a Republican candidate than vice versa.

Moody’s latest model, set for release this week, shows that the Democratic nominee would take 332 electoral votes compared to 206 for the Republican nominee.

The main driver of the change was the president's approval rating, a first-time variable added into the model this year, White said.

The president's approval rating has risen 3 percentage points since the first model was released in August.

White says the unruly GOP primary may be helping Obama.

“The gains lately could be construed as a reflection of what a mess the primary process has become in recent weeks,” he said. Trump, who has high unfavorable ratings among some voter groups, could be giving Obama’s approval rating a boost.

Abramowitz told The Atlanta-Journal Constitution last week that “all the noise being made by the presidential campaign, especially by the Republican campaign, has taken attention away from what may turn out to be more significant for the general election — Barack Obama’s rising approval rating.”

His research has found that the president’s approval rating is an essential predictor of the election results even when the president is not on the ballot, and Obama's has risen to its highest level in many months.

White said that one of the most frequently asked questions he gets is whether a Trump variable could be added into the model to test out how his brand of fireworks factors in.

No way, he said.

“The model doesn’t know or care if there are two or 10 candidates,” he said. “It knows the economics and whether marginal swing voters will keep the incumbent party in or not.”

In fact, their models are designed to sweep away the effects of boisterous personalities and the usual ebbs and flows of a long presidential campaign season and instead track specific economic factors that voters deem most important.

Justin Wolfers, an economics professor at the University of Michigan and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who has researched the reliability of economic models, said that while every election is different the “point of the statistical models is to try to find the underlying similarity across all of them.”

“So the logic that says that these models should have worked over the past few decades also says that they should work in this election cycle, too,” he told The Hill.

“There's no reason to think the models should do better or worse in 2016,” he said.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/275084-models-predict-gop-white-house-even-with-trump

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #166 on: April 08, 2016, 03:37:20 PM »
If it's Trump vs. Hillary in November, I'm voting for this guy:

Ex-NM Gov. on Presidential Run: 'Majority of Americans are Libertarian'

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By Bill Hoffmann   |    Friday, 08 Apr 2016

"Could a Republican run as a third party? Well, yeah they could, but they couldn't get on the ballot in all 50 states. At this late stage, it would be difficult to be on enough state ballots to actually mathematically even win the presidency.

"Could Donald Trump run as a third party at the very end? Yeah, but maybe he'll be on the ballot in 10 states mathematically not standing a chance to get elected."

 But Johnson said the only way for him to get his message out is to be able to participate in the ongoing GOP and Democratic debates, which under current regulations he's not eligible to do.

"That's the only way that a third party has a chance. I polled nationally last week at 11 percent. The presidential debate commission has said that you need to be at 15 percent to be in the presidential debates. That is a very real possibility," Johnson said.

"We're … suing the presidential debate commission. Really, they're at the heart of this rigged game that's going on."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/gary-johnson-third-party-libertarian-president/2016/04/08/id/722991/#ixzz45HFGVgj2

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #167 on: April 08, 2016, 03:41:23 PM »
Welcome aboard.

I Voted for him in 2012 and will do so again.

This 2 party stuff needs to stop.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #168 on: April 08, 2016, 03:45:14 PM »
Yeah.  I gotta vote my conscience.  No way can I vote for someone who could destroy the country and/or is a blatant liar. 

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« Reply #169 on: April 08, 2016, 03:47:39 PM »
That's fair. My mom is in the same boat.

She hates Trump and Hillary SO much. So many people do.

Maybe as a nation we are finally turning a corner.

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« Reply #170 on: April 08, 2016, 03:55:11 PM »
That's fair. My mom is in the same boat.

She hates Trump and Hillary SO much. So many people do.

Maybe as a nation we are finally turning a corner.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #171 on: April 08, 2016, 11:20:35 PM »
hilary and trump are unpopular... but they are likely to end up the nominees...

hilary will almost certainly win the nomination.  Women HATE trump and no repub has won in 40 years without winning the woman vote. And hispanics?  Forget about it.  Bush got 44%, Mccain got 33%, Mitt got 27%... does ANYONE think Trump gets 1/4 of Hispanic voters?  lol!

And I contend, again, that it's by design.  Trump is in this race to let hilary win the race.  Just enough crazy to win nomination then lay down women/hispanic voters the two groups the repub NEEDED NEEDED NEEDED to win the nomination. 

Pretty convenient, huh?  ;)

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #172 on: May 03, 2016, 09:33:06 AM »
If the MSM and liberals could paint a good man like Romney as a gangster hiding money in offshore accounts, imagine what they will do to someone like Trump. 

Report: Dems to Hit Trump With $20 Million in Negative Ads Before Convention

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By Greg Richter   |   Monday, 02 May 2016

A Democrat super PAC plans to hit Republican front-runner Donald Trump with $20 million worth of negative advertising before he even secures his party's nomination, National Journal reports.

Priorities USA, the same PAC that went after Mitt Romney in 2012, plans to start airing anti-Trump ads on June 8, one day after the final primaries. Trump is expected by many to sew up the nomination at that point.

But neither Trump himself nor the Republican Party has plans to air counter-attacks against presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton until after the Republican National Convention,  National Journal notes, and that could put Trump in a similar position to Romney, whose strength as business leader was turned against him by Priorities USA.

The series of anti-Trump ads will paint him as "an unserious, unready, and unscrupulous businessman who also happens to disparage women and minorities," National Journal writes.

The ads will air for five weeks in seven swing states.

"Mitt Romney was a fundamentally likable guy," GOP strategist and "Never Trump" advocate Rick Wilson told National Journal. "They turned him into history’s greatest monster."

Wilson said Priorities USA will have a far easier time demonizing Trump, who already has low approval ratings – including among Republicans.

Red State, writing about the National Journal story, said to "get used to every horrible thing – horrible true thing – that we have been trying to tell you about Donald Trump get[ting] plastered all over the airwaves in June and July."

It's not the first wave of attacks ads against Trump, and, like every other method used against the unconventional candidate, they didn't work.

Politico reported on series of attack ads against Trump in late February, and The New York Times reported a month ago that more than half of the negative ads this election season have been against Trump.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/democrat-super-pac-negative/2016/05/02/id/726875/#ixzz47bx2NXw2

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« Reply #173 on: May 10, 2016, 09:56:58 AM »
I am changing my mind about whether Trump has no shot to be Hillary.  I think it's possible.  We are so screwed.

Poll: Clinton, Trump 'dead even' in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania
David M Jackson, USA TODAY
May 10, 2016

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It's still early to analyze the general election, but a new poll shows Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in a dead heat in three key swing states: Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

The Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released Tuesday has Clinton up by a single point in both Florida (43%-42%) and Pennsylvania (43%-42%), while Trump leads Clinton in Ohio by 43%-to-39%

"Six months from Election Day, the presidential races between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the three most crucial states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, are too close to call," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac Poll.

Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, by the way, has narrow leads over Trump in all three pivotal states.


Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump (Photo: DSK, AFP/Getty Images)

Brown joked that a Clinton-Trump general election "may be good for divorce lawyers," citing a massive gender gap among voters that currently seems to be benefiting Trump.

"In Pennsylvania, Clinton's 19-point lead among women matches Trump's 21-point margin among men," Brown said. "In Ohio, she is up 7 points among women but down 15 points with men. In Florida she is up 13 points among women but down 13 points among men."

The Quinnipiac Swing State Poll says it "focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/10/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-quinnipiac-poll-florida-ohio-pennsylvania/84173448/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #174 on: May 10, 2016, 10:48:35 AM »
I do not believe that the US is that insane.