Damn intelligent (on the most part) and interesting conversation here.
That brief mention of 'responsibility' carries a lot of weight but seems to be ignored as this topic evolves.
A god friend who who has been on a riod "program' for the past 30 years or so claims that the following is a truthful fact ......
"If you are an asshole before you start using roads, you'll be a bigger asshole once you use them!"
That statement kind of wraps it up in a 'nutshell'.
Interesting discussion though!
Thanks!