bloodwork strange result ??

[solaris]

hello getbig ! first of all i apologize for my english, i'm just french LOL.  

i'm new on this (great) board , and i have few question to ask... i know it's not very polite to ask questions about AAS and never reply to other question.
but i need your help because i did blood work yesterday and i had very strange results...

i'm 23 years old, i'm training since i'm 19 yo (1st cycle at 20 yo...), i weight 97 kg (214 lbs) 10/11 % BF  for 1m80 (5'11'')
my diet is: 3300 kcal (slightly above maintenance)

6 meals a day (252 grams of proteins , 396 grams of carbs , 73 grams of fats)

i'm training six days a week.

i have few cycle of AAS under my belt, and this time for personal reasons, i'm running a very high dosed cycle, i know it's waaaay too high for my level and must be harmful to my health but i know that and this is not the problem (yes i'm crazy ^^)

so... my cycle is

Test E : 3150mg / week
Tren E: 700mg / week
Deca : 1400mg / week
Eq: 1400mg / week

cyanocobalamin (injection) :  2000 mcg E3D.

i run this cycle for 10 weeks now, i dont take anastrozol for E2 or cabergoline for prolactine at this time but i'll use it soon (because the values are very high ^^ but i have no side effect btw... no gyno, lactating or other funny things) the only thing is extreme lethargy and bad sleep.  

here is a small part of the bloodwork:

ASAT: 57 u/L
ALAT: 93 u/L
Oestradiol: 2426 pg/ml.
Prolactine: 162 ng/ml.

hematocrit (HCT) : 39.4

i'm very concerned by very low hematocrit , how that is possible to be so low , with crazy amount of AAS ? someone have an idea ?

soon i'll include arimidex 0.5mg EOD to deal with oestro and dostinex for prolactine (but i've no idea of the dose at this moment, never used it)


have a nice day...

[falco]

Thanks, a nice day to you also.

[solaris]

thx lol 

[mazfit]

No body can answer that for you.

we are not doctors

[Thong Maniac]

hello getbig ! first of all i apologize for my english, i'm just french LOL.  

i'm new on this (great) board , and i have few question to ask... i know it's not very polite to ask questions about AAS and never reply to other question.
but i need your help because i did blood work yesterday and i had very strange results...

i'm 23 years old, i'm training since i'm 19 yo (1st cycle at 20 yo...), i weight 97 kg (214 lbs) 10/11 % BF  for 1m80 (5'11'')
my diet is: 3300 kcal (slightly above maintenance)

6 meals a day (252 grams of proteins , 396 grams of carbs , 73 grams of fats)

i'm training six days a week.

i have few cycle of AAS under my belt, and this time for personal reasons, i'm running a very high dosed cycle, i know it's waaaay too high for my level and must be harmful to my health but i know that and this is not the problem (yes i'm crazy ^^)

so... my cycle is

Test E : 3150mg / week
Tren E: 700mg / week
Deca : 1400mg / week
Eq: 1400mg / week

cyanocobalamin (injection) :  2000 mcg E3D.

i run this cycle for 10 weeks now, i dont take anastrozol for E2 or cabergoline for prolactine at this time but i'll use it soon (because the values are very high ^^ but i have no side effect btw... no gyno, lactating or other funny things) the only thing is extreme lethargy and bad sleep.  

here is a small part of the bloodwork:

ASAT: 57 u/L
ALAT: 93 u/L
Oestradiol: 2426 pg/ml.
Prolactine: 162 ng/ml.

hematocrit (HCT) : 39.4

i'm very concerned by very low hematocrit , how that is possible to be so low , with crazy amount of AAS ? someone have an idea ?

soon i'll include arimidex 0.5mg EOD to deal with oestro and dostinex for prolactine (but i've no idea of the dose at this moment, never used it)


have a nice day...

Is research online what it could mean but i wish my hemo was that low. 200mg and mine creeps up

[solaris]

seems very odd to me, AAS especially at this dosage MUST increase hematocrit. :/
i never had this problem before... maybe the dosage is too high , i don't know

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Ignore your estrogen reading. Tren gives a false positive for E2, so unless your body is fully clear from it, you won't be able to know your true E2 level.

I am very surprised by your low hematocrit, but honestly, I'd be really happy if I were you. Do you do a lot of cardio? That's the only thing I can think of.

[solaris]

i do 3 times a week 20 min of cardio at 145 bpm max

[Jizmo]

Ignore your estrogen reading. Tren gives a false positive for E2, so unless your body is fully clear from it, you won't be able to know your true E2 level.

I am very surprised by your low hematocrit, but honestly, I'd be really happy if I were you. Do you do a lot of cardio? That's the only thing I can think of.

not with all tests... also the highest reading ive ever seen was 500 or so and that was on a gram of tren lol

his estrogen must be SHITTON HIGH

the OP is very lucky (and retarded too) not to have huge TITS at that test dosage without an AI and with tren and deca lol

is your dick still working OP?

also training for 4 years and blasting 7g... no comment lol

[solaris]

i've no side at this time except very light acne on my back (as usual when i up the dosage) and extreme tiredness / bad sleep.

No Erectile dysfunction at all, it was far better when i ran test (2500 mg/week) / anadrol(200mg/ED) . but i'm training pretty hard and i'm always tired so, good sex drive but i'm not very concerned about it  


yeah i know that i'm retarded to run that amount of gear at 23 but i dont care at all to be honest.  



here are the complete list of blood work i've done, but it's in french... i'll translate it if needed, just ask that's not a problem.

HÉMATOLOGIE

NUMÉRATION

Leucocytes ........................ ........ 18 480 /μL                     4 000 à 10 000
Hématies ........................ .......... 4 570 000 /μL                           4 500 000 à 5 900 000
Hémoglobine ........................ ..... 13,2 g/dL                                 13,0 à 17,0
Hématocrite ........................ ...... 39,4 %                           41 à 53
V.G.M. ........................ ............. 86,2 fL                                     82 à 98
T.C.M.H ........................ ............. 28,9 pg/cell                             27 à 33
C.C.M.H................. .................... 33,5 g/dL                                 32 à 36
Indice de distribution des hématies 16,6 %                                     Inférieur à 19

FORMULE


Polynucléaires neutrophiles............ ....78,0 % Soit: 14 414 /μL            1 800 à 7 700
Polynucléaires éosinophiles..................1,4 % Soit: 259 /μL                         40 à 400 115
Polynucléaires basophiles ....................0,4 % Soit: 74 /μL                          20 à 80
Lymphocytes ........................ ...............15,3 % Soit: 2 827 /μL                 1 000 à 4 000
Monocytes ........................ .....................3,9 % Soit: 721 /μL  
✔ Plaquettes ........................ .... .............. 355 000 /μL

BIOCHIMIE

✔ Aspect du plasma ........................ ........ Limpide
✔ Créatinine ........................ .......... 103 μmol/L                                   59 à 104
✔ Transaminases ASAT (S.G.O.T )................ 57                          U/L Inférieur à 40
✔ Transaminases ALAT (S.G.P.T )................. 93                          U/L Inférieur à 41
✔ Gamma-glutamyl transférase ................ 25 U/L                                  8 à 61
✔ Protéine C réactive ..................... .......... 10,0 mg/L                Inférieur à 5,0

HORMONOLOGIE

✔ Oestradiol plasmatique ........................ . 2 426 pg/mL        7,63à 42,6 pg/mL
Prolactine plasmatique ........................ . 162,1 ng/m             4,04 à 15,2


Exploration de la thyroïde

✔ T.S.H. Ultra-sensible ........................ ..... 4,43 mUI/

✔ Vitamine B12 ...................... ................ 1 038 pg/mL

[Jizmo]

no cholesterol?
id be interested in that the most.

[Overload]

That is very odd.

All i can say is you're either lucky or the lab results aren't correct.

My HC is over 60% even on 200mg of Test a week.

[solaris]

no cholesterol?
id be interested in that the most.

i'll post my new blood test in 15 days , i'll try to decrase E2 and prolactine with arimidex and dostinex, and i'll do HDL, LDL, Total cholesterol.

most of the time i've low LDL and very very low HDL

That is very odd.

All i can say is you're either lucky or the lab results aren't correct.

My HC is over 60% even on 200mg of Test a week.

hmm i don't know if i'm lucky because i never had a HC so low and its decreasing all the time, AAS didn't seems to increase it and it's not normal IMO...
for example my last cycle was 1750 mg test/week - 1064 mg tren hex/week - 100mg winstrol ED - 100 mg dbol ED and my hematocrit were at 49...

[falco]

i've no side at this time except very light acne on my back (as usual when i up the dosage) and extreme tiredness / bad sleep.

No Erectile dysfunction at all, it was far better when i ran test (2500 mg/week) / anadrol(200mg/ED) . but i'm training pretty hard and i'm always tired so, good sex drive but i'm not very concerned about it  


yeah i know that i'm retarded to run that amount of gear at 23 but i dont care at all to be honest.  



here are the complete list of blood work i've done, but it's in french... i'll translate it if needed, just ask that's not a problem.

HÉMATOLOGIE

NUMÉRATION

Leucocytes ........................ ........ 18 480 /μL                     4 000 à 10 000
Hématies ........................ .......... 4 570 000 /μL                           4 500 000 à 5 900 000
Hémoglobine ........................ ..... 13,2 g/dL                                 13,0 à 17,0
Hématocrite ........................ ...... 39,4 %                           41 à 53
V.G.M. ........................ ............. 86,2 fL                                     82 à 98
T.C.M.H ........................ ............. 28,9 pg/cell                             27 à 33
C.C.M.H................. .................... 33,5 g/dL                                 32 à 36
Indice de distribution des hématies 16,6 %                                     Inférieur à 19

FORMULE


Polynucléaires neutrophiles............ ....78,0 % Soit: 14 414 /μL            1 800 à 7 700
Polynucléaires éosinophiles..................1,4 % Soit: 259 /μL                         40 à 400 115
Polynucléaires basophiles ....................0,4 % Soit: 74 /μL                          20 à 80
Lymphocytes ........................ ...............15,3 % Soit: 2 827 /μL                 1 000 à 4 000
Monocytes ........................ .....................3,9 % Soit: 721 /μL  
✔ Plaquettes ........................ .... .............. 355 000 /μL

BIOCHIMIE

✔ Aspect du plasma ........................ ........ Limpide
✔ Créatinine ........................ .......... 103 μmol/L                                   59 à 104
✔ Transaminases ASAT (S.G.O.T )................ 57                          U/L Inférieur à 40
✔ Transaminases ALAT (S.G.P.T )................. 93                          U/L Inférieur à 41
✔ Gamma-glutamyl transférase ................ 25 U/L                                  8 à 61
✔ Protéine C réactive ..................... .......... 10,0 mg/L                Inférieur à 5,0

HORMONOLOGIE

✔ Oestradiol plasmatique ........................ . 2 426 pg/mL        7,63à 42,6 pg/mL
Prolactine plasmatique ........................ . 162,1 ng/m             4,04 à 15,2


Exploration de la thyroïde

✔ T.S.H. Ultra-sensible ........................ ..... 4,43 mUI/

✔ Vitamine B12 ...................... ................ 1 038 pg/mL

Maybe the sample got contaminated with semen.

[gainscity]

hello getbig ! first of all i apologize for my english, i'm just french LOL.  

i'm new on this (great) board , and i have few question to ask... i know it's not very polite to ask questions about AAS and never reply to other question.
but i need your help because i did blood work yesterday and i had very strange results...

i'm 23 years old, i'm training since i'm 19 yo (1st cycle at 20 yo...), i weight 97 kg (214 lbs) 10/11 % BF  for 1m80 (5'11'')
my diet is: 3300 kcal (slightly above maintenance)

6 meals a day (252 grams of proteins , 396 grams of carbs , 73 grams of fats)

i'm training six days a week.

i have few cycle of AAS under my belt, and this time for personal reasons, i'm running a very high dosed cycle, i know it's waaaay too high for my level and must be harmful to my health but i know that and this is not the problem (yes i'm crazy ^^)

so... my cycle is

Test E : 3150mg / week
Tren E: 700mg / week
Deca : 1400mg / week
Eq: 1400mg / week

cyanocobalamin (injection) :  2000 mcg E3D.

i run this cycle for 10 weeks now, i dont take anastrozol for E2 or cabergoline for prolactine at this time but i'll use it soon (because the values are very high ^^ but i have no side effect btw... no gyno, lactating or other funny things) the only thing is extreme lethargy and bad sleep.  

here is a small part of the bloodwork:

ASAT: 57 u/L
ALAT: 93 u/L
Oestradiol: 2426 pg/ml.
Prolactine: 162 ng/ml.

hematocrit (HCT) : 39.4

i'm very concerned by very low hematocrit , how that is possible to be so low , with crazy amount of AAS ? someone have an idea ?

soon i'll include arimidex 0.5mg EOD to deal with oestro and dostinex for prolactine (but i've no idea of the dose at this moment, never used it)


have a nice day...

No gyno?? From that much test and even the combo of deca+tren in combination? Your stuff may be underdosed for your size you don't really need to go over 2 grams of gear

[Jizmo]

No gyno?? From that much test and even the combo of deca+tren in combination? Your stuff may be underdosed for your size you don't really need to go over 2 grams of gear

if his gear was underdosed he probably wouldnt get these retarded readings on estrogen and prolactin

[AlphaMaleDawg]

not with all tests... also the highest reading ive ever seen was 500 or so and that was on a gram of tren lol

his estrogen must be SHITTON HIGH

the OP is very lucky (and retarded too) not to have huge TITS at that test dosage without an AI and with tren and deca lol

is your dick still working OP?

also training for 4 years and blasting 7g... no comment lol

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about estrogen as I didn't know that. I just heard it gave false positives but didn't know the details.

[Jizmo]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about estrogen as I didn't know that. I just heard it gave false positives but didn't know the details.

yeah there are a couple different blood test, i think ECLIA or whatever its called lists tren as estrogen, or it was a different one i dunno

ive never seen such an estro number though, so its probably both from the test (true estrogen) and the tren (false reading)

the OP is very lucky, others would have a dead dick and lactating D cups after a few weeks with these estro and prolactin numbers lol

[Mawse]

yeah there are a couple different blood test, i think ECLIA or whatever its called lists tren as estrogen, or it was a different one i dunno

ive never seen such an estro number though, so its probably both from the test (true estrogen) and the tren (false reading)

the OP is very lucky, others would have a dead dick and lactating D cups after a few weeks with these estro and prolactin numbers lol

whatever the privateMDlabs standard e2 test is, I forget which, shows tren as E2 done @ labcorp

I was on 100mg test and had insanely high 'e2' from pellet tren when had me WTFing until I realized there was a false positive

that cycle doe, that's a lot of AAS for barely 200lb and not single digits