low test prop

[xuul]

since I like to run low test with some tren ace , id like to ask if someone tried like
50-75mg tren ace with about 20-30 mg prop everyday?
best regards

[mazfit]

tried it. good for cutting.

but you dont look full with that low test

[pestosterone]

There's a thread on Tnation where this dude was running like 20mgs prop or lower and kept upping the tren everyday he loved it

[xuul]

ye i notice im pretty flat , im doing keto diet and using t3.
im im the gym and like wtf where is the pump.
im salting like a maniac , u got any advice to stay fuller otherwise then switching to carb cycle?

[mazfit]

up your test mate

[xuul]

i dont really like test , it bloats the shit out of me and puts tons of water weight on.
Im using eq 500-600, tren 350 and test prop 150-250 with t3 at the moment.

[mazfit]

how much t3

[xuul]

75 mcg on empty stomach in the morning.
strenght level really bad , mood really bad , no pumps
sucks really....

[wrath]

Well thats what happens with low carb plus t3 bro.
Remeber flatness is only temporary. Maybe have a high carb day once a week or so.

But when you finish your diet and start eating carbs and up the test is when your hard work shows

[Damios]

I think e2 makes You bloat, not Test so maybe increase Test dose and add any AI?

[tatoo]

starting to think water retention is a genetic thing.

[xuul]

Cant get my Hands on ai , well then i diet First down and then add some more Test , Hope i still Look decent and Hard in Test cuz Summer is coming Lol

[Jizmo]

im always flat and look like shit when on low carbs and t3
when cutting i generally look like garbage
just part of the game

i actually dont get drier and more ripped but softer, flatter and more watery the longer i cut until i dip below the 7% BF mark, then i just look tiny and ripped lol

THEN when im lean enough bodyfat wise i drop t3, increase carbs and kcals to slightly above maintenance levels, double dosages, add slin and BOOM completely different person within 3 days
twice as big, suddenly much leaner and looking ripped and drier, muscle pushing against skin again, full of glycogen



just tell yourself its all temporary and the change is gonna be even more insane once you stop the cut

[xuul]

well thanks for that mental support.
how do you fight ur mind against low carb/zero carb days while trying to keep some heavy lifts in?

yes I even look fatter,softer and my skin is even looser when Im dieting. my veins even start to thin and dissapear lol.
DO you use insulin with GH?

[local hero]

im always flat and look like shit when on low carbs and t3
when cutting i generally look like garbage
just part of the game

i actually dont get drier and more ripped but softer, flatter and more watery the longer i cut until i dip below the 7% BF mark, then i just look tiny and ripped lol

THEN when im lean enough bodyfat wise i drop t3, increase carbs and kcals to slightly above maintenance levels, double dosages, add slin and BOOM completely different person within 3 days
twice as big, suddenly much leaner and looking ripped and drier, muscle pushing against skin again, full of glycogen



just tell yourself its all temporary and the change is gonna be even more insane once you stop the cut

The period between being big bloated and full ,to tight and ripped is a sorry time... Your neither big nor ripped, you know what's at the end of the tunnel if you stick to it tho.... Those weeks, I wouldn't be seen dead in a vest at the gym

[ritch]

The period between being big bloated and full ,to tight and ripped is a sorry time... Your neither big nor ripped, you know what's at the end of the tunnel if you stick to it tho.... Those weeks, I wouldn't be seen dead in a vest at the gym

hahaha, so true, you just lose water, look "less big", clothes don't fit as good and are not really kick ass naked either...

All the more reason to not bloat up like some do, huge mind fuck.

[lilhawk1]

ye i notice im pretty flat , im doing keto diet and using t3.
im im the gym and like wtf where is the pump.
im salting like a maniac , u got any advice to stay fuller otherwise then switching to carb cycle?

You're doing keto and T3.  You're gonna be flat as a pancake no matter what you take.

[kevthekid]

I kept my prop at 150-200 a week and started tren at 350 then bumped up up 500-600 at the end and ran some mast p at 150-200 too the whole time...Worked for me

[xuul]

This was After a clean refeed ,but as u See im still very fat bloated and Watery , im 20 so My Body is Crazy sensitive To Hormones i think

[Jizmo]

youre not bloated nor sensitive to hormones. why would you, youre running low test and tren. nothing that could bloat you here.
youre just carrying MUCH more bodyfat than you think
thats >15% BF

dont get me wrong, good build (especially legs) for 20 and low doses. but you have a good 12 weeks of cutting infront of you

also keto diet is shit on tren imo
try 150-200g protein and the rest of the calories ALL CARBS
tren and t3 burn through carbs like a mofo
also forget heavy lifting while on t3

high carb cuts work much better, only advantage of keto is appetite suppression and theres other stuff for that

edit: grad gesehen du bist deutscher, aus welcher ecke kommst?

[xuul]

haha danke für die tipps aus krefeld (nrw)
kannst mir privat bzw eventuell helfen mit paar tipps?

[kevthekid]

VEry good leg genetics and good nice thick base. Add in some tren maybe 350-500? with T3 and cut down to under 10% you'll look phenomenal

[xuul]

ye I want to get really shredded this summer , I really hate this thick bloated fat look.
Tren is there 50mg everyday

[kevthekid]

ye I want to get really shredded this summer , I really hate this thick bloated fat look.
Tren is there 50mg everyday

Add in some t3 and you're gtg then keep carbs moderate protein high and fats low

[Jizmo]

haha danke für die tipps aus krefeld (nrw)
kannst mir privat bzw eventuell helfen mit paar tipps?

klar, hast PN