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Agnostic007

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Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« on: April 01, 2015, 10:36:18 AM »
Co worker recently retired after 25 yrs of service on a police department. Wife falls in love with another guy and files for divorce. She got half of HIS retirement.. I think that is backwards thinking and wrong on many levels. She didn't go to work in a tough job for 25 yrs, he paid the bills while she watched Oprah and went to the gym. I just don't see that as earning half...   

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 10:40:35 AM »
People know this going into the marriage but always seem shocked when it ends and get hit with the bill.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 10:45:59 AM »
Where the courts are really medieval is in paternity charges. A guy doesn't want to father a child. He just wants to have a good cum. Women do have birth control, and abortion available. If they give birth, then it's their idea, and problem, but the courts blame the guy.

That needs to be changed.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 10:50:58 AM »
This country is a sexist state in favor of women.

Should have had a prenup.

She deserves nothing.


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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 11:05:36 AM »
Always sign a PRENUP!!!

the fact that SHE left him, should exclude her from his pension.
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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 11:12:25 AM »
Is there more to this story?  Was he physically or emotionally abusive which was the reason she left him?  Are you providing all the facts?

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 11:38:01 AM »
This country is a sexist state in favor of women.


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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 12:14:25 PM »
I'd move to another country if a bitch tried to trap me. Problem solved. Well, not on the retirement situation.
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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 12:15:07 PM »
Co worker recently retired after 25 yrs of service on a police department. Wife falls in love with another guy and files for divorce. She got half of HIS retirement.. I think that is backwards thinking and wrong on many levels. She didn't go to work in a tough job for 25 yrs, he paid the bills while she watched Oprah and went to the gym. I just don't see that as earning half...   

went to the gym? she did her part then. she deserves it

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2015, 12:16:28 PM »
i loved in MAD MEN when they were getting divorced, he asked to get the fuck out of his house or start paying rent


AHHHH the 60's , the good ol days of America

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 01:58:54 PM »
Usually feel bad about such stories.....this time, not so much.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 03:55:37 PM »
Always sign a PRENUP!!!

the fact that SHE left him, should exclude her from his pension.

Prenups get thrown out all the damn time based on how the judge feels. Its incredible how the justice system is stacked against men.

Getting married? why?

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 04:08:20 PM »
Co worker recently retired after 25 yrs of service on a police department. Wife falls in love with another guy and files for divorce. She got half of HIS retirement.. I think that is backwards thinking and wrong on many levels. She didn't go to work in a tough job for 25 yrs, he paid the bills while she watched Oprah and went to the gym. I just don't see that as earning half...   

Remember that next time you pigs eagerly arrest another guy based on nothing but a woman's allegations, while you let women walk free for all sorts of shit.
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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 10:52:11 AM »
Where the courts are really medieval is in paternity charges. A guy doesn't want to father a child. He just wants to have a good cum. Women do have birth control, and abortion available. If they give birth, then it's their idea, and problem, but the courts blame the guy.

That needs to be changed.

I don't agree with this. If the man doesn't take care of his kid then the rest of us will have to. Don't have sex or be responsible for your own birth control if u don't want to pay child support

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 11:05:47 AM »
I don't agree with this. If the man doesn't take care of his kid then the rest of us will have to. Don't have sex or be responsible for your own birth control if u don't want to pay child support

Not have sex with women? Clearly those "men" posting such nonsense, don't have normal heterosexual sex drives. Having sex, as consensual adults, doesn't mean the male gave his consent to father a child. If a woman doesn't use birth control, or has an "accident," and doesn't terminate the pregnancy, by abortion, then at that point, it is the woman, who should under the law, have to accept full responsibility for the child, that she, and she alone chose to bring into this world. She shouldn't have the legal right to shake down the male, that she victimized, by her own irresponsible actions. And the courts shouldn't be helping commit this fraud to steal money.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 12:05:30 PM »
If your married for over 7 years or so depending on the state the wife normally gets half or more. So many women get the house, alimony and child support payments. The only way she can get less than half is if she makes more money than the guy. So many guys give the wife the house so the kids won't get uprooted from school and the neighborhood. Let the wife have the house and all the equity in it so his payments can be reduced. Lawyers in the NJ the first thing they want to know is all your assets. They will stall the divorce in so many cases until the money for them runs dry. They know when to finish the divorce because they know everything about your finances. Also if your wife is a house wife you will be responsible for paying for her attorney.

That's why so many long time married divorced guys live like bums. They lose their house. 50 plus percent of their income go to the ex wife and kids. In NJ even if you had no plans to send your kids to college the courts always side with payment for college. The attorneys of wives know this and almost 100% ask for payment through the college years. Think you're done paying the ex wife child support at age 18? No, you have college to pay for.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 12:08:45 PM »
Since I have a little experience in this matter, I need to chime in.
If she did commit adultery and wants the divorce, he should not be liable for any pension splitting.
I don't know the specifics here, but the phrase " she filled for divorce" got my attention.

The problem is HE allowed her to be first to the lawyer and file.
Did he at least get his own lawyer to fight her claim and make her admit her cheating in front of a judge?
I doubt he took it to court  and just signed and said wtf.
Divorce isn't a moral matter, it's a LEGAL matter.

It doesn't matter what she deserves, it what the law allows her to have that counts.
Once you know a divorce is coming, you lawyer up, keep calm and don't give an inch.



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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 12:13:52 PM »
Not have sex with women? Clearly those "men" posting such nonsense, don't have normal heterosexual sex drives. Having sex, as consensual adults, doesn't mean the male gave his consent to father a child. If a woman doesn't use birth control, or has an "accident," and doesn't terminate the pregnancy, by abortion, then at that point, it is the woman, who should under the law, have to accept full responsibility for the child, that she, and she alone chose to bring into this world. She shouldn't have the legal right to shake down the male, that she victimized, by her own irresponsible actions. And the courts shouldn't be helping commit this fraud to steal money.

i have a normal sex drive plus. if u have sex with a woman u run the risk of fathering a child. we are not animals. abortion is a sin in my book. how many white babies have been killed by the hook nosed abortionists?i pride myself on being a responsible, white, Christian male

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 12:43:19 PM »
i have a normal sex drive plus. if u have sex with a woman u run the risk of fathering a child. we are not animals. abortion is a sin in my book. how many white babies have been killed by the hook nosed abortionists?i pride myself on being a responsible, white, Christian male

The secular courts, shouldn't be colored by religious nonsense. Neither yours, nor anyone's ignorant superstitions, should be the basis for determining individual responsibility in a case. It's called separation of church and state. You can believe your dopey bible morals drivel, but you're not allowed to inflict your views upon others.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2015, 12:45:39 PM »
So who is responsible let for the unwanted kids? the taxpayers

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2015, 12:47:33 PM »
The secular courts, shouldn't be colored by religious nonsense. Neither yours, nor anyone's ignorant superstitions, should be the basis for determining individual responsibility in a case. It's called separation of church and state. You can believe your dopey bible morals drivel, but you're not allowed to inflict your views upon others.
listen Eric we know now you are a Nurd Book Worm who comes on a Bodybuilding Forum and tells us all about diet, training and now religion.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2015, 12:50:01 PM »
So who is responsible let for the unwanted kids? the taxpayers

That's why there should be mandatory abortion, for all women who can't afford to pay for the children, that they, and no one else, are responsible for getting pregnant with. Let's think of the Taxpayers first, before garbage children being born, to dirtball women who can't pay their own way through life.

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2015, 12:54:33 PM »
That's why there should be mandatory abortion, for all women who can't afford to pay for the children, that they, and no one else, are responsible for getting pregnant with. Let's think of the Taxpayers first, before garbage children being born, to dirtball women who can't pay their own way through life.
really ? getting upset now eric?  your moral ethics are below intelligent although at the same time you try to be a teacher of fitness and diet ?

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2015, 12:55:59 PM »
Is there more to this story?  Was he physically or emotionally abusive which was the reason she left him?  Are you providing all the facts?

Based on the lack of her making any claims of that, I would assume he wasn't. In Texas, it almost doesn't matter it's a community property state... I tend to agree a little bit about dividing property and such but waiting for a dude to retire then leaving for another guy and taking half his pension.. seems completely overboard. 

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Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2015, 12:56:28 PM »
you my friend are Joke.