Author Topic: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past  (Read 9344 times)

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2015, 12:59:26 PM »
Usually feel bad about such stories.....this time, not so much.

I can relax .. reading your comment I know the world is as it should be...  ;)

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2015, 01:00:12 PM »
Remember that next time you pigs eagerly arrest another guy based on nothing but a woman's allegations, while you let women walk free for all sorts of shit.

Right?! Amen Brother!

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2015, 01:01:24 PM »
really ? getting upset now eric?  your moral ethics are below intelligent although at the same time you try to be a teacher of fitness and diet ?

My ethics are superior. The inferior don't like that. Religious beliefs that encourage inferior people to reproduce, without any controls, is a disservice to society, and an unnecessary burden to the Taxpayers.

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2015, 01:01:46 PM »
Since I have a little experience in this matter, I need to chime in.
If she did commit adultery and wants the divorce, he should not be liable for any pension splitting.
I don't know the specifics here, but the phrase " she filled for divorce" got my attention.

The problem is HE allowed her to be first to the lawyer and file.
Did he at least get his own lawyer to fight her claim and make her admit her cheating in front of a judge?
I doubt he took it to court  and just signed and said wtf.
Divorce isn't a moral matter, it's a LEGAL matter.

It doesn't matter what she deserves, it what the law allows her to have that counts.
Once you know a divorce is coming, you lawyer up, keep calm and don't give an inch.



Howard, Texas is common law. A spouse could blow the attorney in court in front of the judge and it would be unlikely to change the outcome. 

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2015, 01:03:23 PM »
I don't agree with this. If the man doesn't take care of his kid then the rest of us will have to. Don't have sex or be responsible for your own birth control if u don't want to pay child support

How about the other side of the coin? A woman wants an abortion but the man wants to keep the kid. He gets ZERO say in it. However, if she wants to keep the kid and he doesn't want her to, he is still stuck for 18 yrs paying for it. I think there is a disparity in the system

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2015, 01:09:05 PM »
Where the courts are really medieval is in paternity charges. A guy doesn't want to father a child. He just wants to have a good cum. Women do have birth control, and abortion available. If they give birth, then it's their idea, and problem, but the courts blame the guy.

That needs to be changed.

It takes both a man and a woman to make a baby. Birth control is available for men as well as women. Some folks don't believe in abortion for religions reasons.

If a guy just wants a good cum, that's the risk he takes, just as with the woman who wants a good fuck.

There is nothing medieval here but your thinking.

Donny

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18267
  • getbig Zen Master
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2015, 01:13:21 PM »
My ethics are superior. The inferior don't like that. Religious beliefs that encourage inferior people to reproduce, without any controls, is a disservice to society, and an unnecessary burden to the Taxpayers.
like i wrote before you are just a young kid.. a nerd who sits on his pc after school

Deacon Jeschin

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1397
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2015, 01:23:45 PM »
After screwing the taxpayers for 25 years of worthless service, this dipshit probably thought retirement was going to be great.....lol.

In the meantime, when Sgt. Sucker was depriving people of their freedom and money, his old lady was screwing another man.  A man who will get to screw the wife in the house that taxpayers paid for, and piggy will be holed up in a hotel.......


Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2015, 01:27:59 PM »
After screwing the taxpayers for 25 years of worthless service, this dipshit probably thought retirement was going to be great.....lol.

In the meantime, when Sgt. Sucker was depriving people of their freedom and money, his old lady was screwing another man.  A man who will get to screw the wife in the house that taxpayers paid for, and piggy will be holed up in a hotel.......



I have to say, I find your outlook, interesting.. on a clinical level.

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2015, 01:28:29 PM »
How about the other side of the coin? A woman wants an abortion but the man wants to keep the kid. He gets ZERO say in it. However, if she wants to keep the kid and he doesn't want her to, he is still stuck for 18 yrs paying for it. I think there is a disparity in the system

You are right in that there is a disparity in this. Some would argue that the guy has no say so because he's not going to carry the child for nine months and go through childbirth which has some risk to one's health and well-being.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2015, 01:28:46 PM »
It takes both a man and a woman to make a baby. Birth control is available for men as well as women. Some folks don't believe in abortion for religions reasons.

If a guy just wants a good cum, that's the risk he takes, just as with the woman who wants a good fuck.

There is nothing medieval here but your thinking.

Women are making the choice, and you suffer because, they chose to get pregnant, give birth, and sit on their ass, while the man picks up the tab, for their self indulgence. No justice there.

Religion is ignorant superstition. Medieval is too good to describe religion, it's really late stone age, delusional brain dysfunction.

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2015, 01:30:25 PM »
You are right in that there is a disparity in this. Some would argue that the guy has no say so because he's not going to carry the child for nine months and go through childbirth which has some risk to one's health and well-being.

they do say that, but I disagree. If a woman chooses to have the baby against the "fathers" wishes, she should also be willing to sign a release stating she won't hold him financially responsible. If not, he should have input

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2015, 02:25:25 PM »
Women are making the choice, and you suffer because, they chose to get pregnant, give birth, and sit on their ass, while the man picks up the tab, for their self indulgence. No justice there.

Religion is ignorant superstition. Medieval is too good to describe religion, it's really late stone age, delusional brain dysfunction.

Your world is apparently pretty narrow. My wife and I together chose for her to get pregnant and produce two wonderful children. We also both worked and thus jointly picked up the tab for this decision. Neither of us sat on our asses for 18 + years. Our children grew up married and chose together to have children of their own. I just found out today that my granddaughter and her husband are excited that their choice to have a child has taken hold, so to speak. In eight months my wife and I will be great-grandparents.

I am not a religious person, but I allow that many people are and have the right to be so. If it brings them comfort, who am I to argue?

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2015, 02:32:04 PM »
Your world is apparently pretty narrow. My wife and I together chose for her to get pregnant and produce two wonderful children. We also both worked and thus jointly picked up the tab for this decision. Neither of us sat on our asses for 18 + years. Our children grew up married and chose together to have children of their own. I just found out today that my granddaughter and her husband are excited that their choice to have a child has taken hold, so to speak. In eight months my wife and I will be great-grandparents.

I am not a religious person, but I allow that many people are and have the right to be so. If it brings them comfort, who am I to argue?

Then why are you complaining about my post? It wasn't about you and your wife, it was about irresponsible women, who sent someone else the bill for the choices that they have made. And, of religious people, allowing that dishonest and parasite behavior, because of the idiotic and hypocritical things in their religious beliefs.

Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2015, 02:38:02 PM »
they do say that, but I disagree. If a woman chooses to have the baby against the "fathers" wishes, she should also be willing to sign a release stating she won't hold him financially responsible. If not, he should have input

I am not sure what you disagree with. The statements I made regarding the risks involved in carrying and having a baby are fact. -Nothing to disagree with here.

Are you saying that if the man wants the woman to have an abortion and she refuses for whatever reason, that this should terminate any responsibility he has for the pregnancy and the child? I find this interesting since there is no way the woman got herself pregnant. The man play a big role in this.

It is fortunate that the law has a different view of who is responsible in the event of a pregnancy and for the child. Act like a man and take every precaution to avoid fathering children if you don't want them. It is weak and unmanly to blame pregnancy on solely on the woman.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2015, 02:52:28 PM »
  It is weak and unmanly to blame pregnancy on solely on the woman.

No it's not! It's totally factual that a woman can end her pregnancy via abortion. If she chooses not to get an abortion, then the pregnancy is all on her. As agnostic007 pointed out before. If the man doesn't want her to get the abortion, and she does, well she gets the abortion, regardless of what the potential father wants. So, if she alone want to give birth, then let her pay for the little bastard, that she alone wanted.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2015, 03:02:08 PM »
Here's a novel idea and possible solution: Don't get her pregnant in the first place...withdraw before firing in the hole.

Today there is no reason for a woman to get pregnant, and carry to full term, and birth, except that she wants too. If she wants too, and the guy doesn't, then she should pay for what she wants, not charge him. He wanted consensual sex, nothing more.

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2015, 03:37:06 PM »
I am not sure what you disagree with. The statements I made regarding the risks involved in carrying and having a baby are fact. -Nothing to disagree with here.

Are you saying that if the man wants the woman to have an abortion and she refuses for whatever reason, that this should terminate any responsibility he has for the pregnancy and the child? I find this interesting since there is no way the woman got herself pregnant. The man play a big role in this.

It is fortunate that the law has a different view of who is responsible in the event of a pregnancy and for the child. Act like a man and take every precaution to avoid fathering children if you don't want them. It is weak and unmanly to blame pregnancy on solely on the woman.

My issue is the disparity in rights. Again, the man has ZERo say in whether the baby is aborted or not. Yet he is held financially responsible if she decided to have it. If the woman wants the right to say she wants an abortion, when the father is adamant he will take the baby and raise it, I think it's only fair it work both ways. I don't have the answer as to how that would even work in reality, but as it is now, the system is unfair. I'm not blaming the pregnancy solely on the woman, but when the woman retains the sole right of making a choice to abort or not, we are essentially looking at it that way.   

illuminati

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24646
  • The Strongest Shall Survive.- - Lest we Forget.
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2015, 03:41:10 PM »
Today there is no reason for a woman to get pregnant, and carry to full term, and birth, except that she wants too. If she wants too, and the guy doesn't, then she should pay for what she wants, not charge him. He wanted consensual sex, nothing more.














You make some good points.
There is a huge inequality in rights of men & women
When it comes to pregnancy & having the child.
The woman has all the say.
Either way she wants to go she wins.
Clearly that is wrong.

Agnostic007

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15439
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2015, 03:45:58 PM »













You make some good points.
There is a huge inequality in rights of men & women
When it comes to pregnancy & having the child.
The woman has all the say.
Either way she wants to go she wins.
Clearly that is wrong.

I may need to rethink my position, I agree with you, which causes me concern that I may be wrong

illuminati

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 24646
  • The Strongest Shall Survive.- - Lest we Forget.
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2015, 03:53:59 PM »
I may need to rethink my position, I agree with you, which causes me concern that I may be wrong













You do that....
Sometimes the truth hurts.. :)

muscleman-2013

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4620
  • Team Trump
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2015, 08:00:32 PM »
The secular courts, shouldn't be colored by religious nonsense. Neither yours, nor anyone's ignorant superstitions, should be the basis for determining individual responsibility in a case. It's called separation of church and state. You can believe your dopey bible morals drivel, but you're not allowed to inflict your views upon others.

IDIOT.

The current issues we are having with police and court are completely secular in nature.  Modern PC morality.
Ψ

muscleman-2013

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4620
  • Team Trump
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2015, 08:04:06 PM »
Women are making the choice, and you suffer because, they chose to get pregnant, give birth, and sit on their ass, while the man picks up the tab, for their self indulgence. No justice there.

Religion is ignorant superstition. Medieval is too good to describe religion, it's really late stone age, delusional brain dysfunction.

Eric, are you from Northern Europe?  I pathetic modern nord?
Ψ

WalterWhite

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8648
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2015, 08:38:34 PM »
When it's divorce time, it's a true blood sport.
I never had kids, and my ex's said they wanted the divorce.
Ok fine, then we both leave with what we came in with and go our separate ways.

trust me, having kids makes it near impossible to do what I did every divorce.


What if there were millions in assets and multiple properties?  It's not just kids that make divorces complex.


Primemuscle

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 42303
Re: Times have changed, but courts are living in the past
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2015, 10:10:01 PM »
When it's divorce time, it's a true blood sport.
I never had kids, and my ex's said they wanted the divorce.
Ok fine, then we both leave with what we came in with and go our separate ways.

trust me, having kids makes it near impossible to do what I did every divorce.


I've read that you've been married a number of times. Were these marriages so brief that you never accumulated assets? Minus a prenuptial agreement that states otherwise, in community property states, what you go out with is spit between the two of you.