Author Topic: Cruise - necessary (Read 4208 times)

Halki · « **on:** April 03, 2015, 10:19:36 AM »

What is Your opinion about blast and cruise? Do You think cruise ( i mean low test only ) is necessary for make progress or You can still make gains with blast all the time? Is it something like body adaptation to compound/dose or You can run for example Your favourite compound ( Tren?

) without stop? I know, after time You will be need to up dose but people say that You must do it even every 8-12 weeks to keep progress... So wtf? If you start with 350mg Tren, after 6 months You will be need 1,5g?

BigRo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2015, 11:02:00 AM »

dont blast all the time unless you want to blast yourself to Valhalla

swpchris · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2015, 12:54:54 PM »

There is no way I could handle tren for half a yr straight!

Jizmo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2015, 02:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Halki on April 03, 2015, 10:19:36 AM

What is Your opinion about blast and cruise? Do You think cruise ( i mean low test only ) is necessary for make progress

its necessary to not die an early death

however since this is getbig and nobody cares

no its not necessary

also:

Quote from: swpchris on April 03, 2015, 12:54:54 PM

There is no way I could handle tren for half a yr straight!

pussy

swpchris · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2015, 06:42:50 PM »

I know I know. It really effects me personality wise. 3 or 4mo is good for me.

Halki · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2015, 11:10:16 PM »

Yea, i know, if reason is health it's very imporant to lower doses for time but... I asked only about efficiency. I can give an example:

1.

1-40 Test 750mg
1-40 Tren 500mg

2.

1-16 Test 750mg
1-16 Tren 500mg
7-24 Test 200mg
25-40 Test 750mg
25-40 Tren 500mg

Tren ( becouse it can be of course other compound like deca, eq, npp... never mind ) and doses are only exemplary of course but You know what I mean. Better results from option 1 or 2?

Jizmo · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2015, 01:29:52 AM »

if you mean 16-24 for that test cruise and not 7-24 then the results will probably very similar

youll look much better all the time on option 1 though

Halki · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2015, 06:15:19 AM »

Yee, my fail. 17-24 i mean

You know... people say that after time ( often 12-20 weeks ) You must drop compound becouse it will lost effectiveness and You will be get nothing from it, only more sides

Jizmo · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2015, 07:53:22 AM »

lol bullshit
switch compounds or increase dosage
i always finish my blasts at about 50% higher dosage vs the beginning of the blast
for example start blast with 1.5g test 500 tren
after 6 weeks increase to 2g test 700 tren
another 6 weeks increase to 2g test 700 tren 700 npp
or whatever
you can also just add an oral when you stall

OR start a cruise
OR do a deload
OR take 2 weeks off
plenty of options, not only regarding AAS

Halki · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2015, 08:35:00 AM »

so what about people which stay with this same compund for years ( ergo, mazfit... 2-3 years without break on Tren for example )? If They must increase dosage, after 3 years it must be 5g week or more?

Jizmo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2015, 08:42:31 AM »

nah. the compound still WORKS
however some day youre so big that you cant get any bigger on a certain dosage
with 1g test for example this is reached relatively quickly. not necessarily in 12 weeks, but then homeostasis kicks in none the less. you can either cruise then, shrink a bit and then blast again and gain a few lbs more than before before you stall again on 1g test
or you just add in something else and overcome homeostasis this way.
obviously the latter is quicker but not healthy lol

ive also been on tren for like 8 months or so without breaks
and i can see why its easy to do that. you just feel like a god, look like a god, have great libido, have a bit more wiggle room regarding eating etc.

however during cut i ran like 400-500mg
and during bulks 500-1000mg
plus you add in stuff here and there

test and tren will always be basics for me... next cut ill run a high dose test only to see how that treats me... like 1-2g...
because even though tren burns loads of calories it still makes it hard to cut for me, cuz i become a sugar maniac on that stuff and end up having 2 lbs of haribo cheats lol

during bulks ill ALWAYS run test+tren as a base though and then add in stuff here and there to avoid stalling

Damios · « **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2015, 11:30:26 AM »

I think it's fking hard to reach stagnation from it. It's fking strong compound and it will be still work, even with low doses like 350-500mg very looooooong time. From 350mg Test You can see very quickly stall gains but from Tren? I think 350mg can work even for years...

It's my opinion of course. I don't know that Jizmo will be agree with me or not

Jizmo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 04, 2015, 02:23:29 PM »

i deffo agree
its just that.. 500mg is better than 350
and 700 is better than 500
and 1000 is better than 700

tren just gets better better better the more you blast lol, even more so than other AAS

oni · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2015, 05:41:19 AM »

I remember a study where tren does not increase cortisol after so many weeks like other AAS does
The body doesn't really know what it is so doesn't upregulate other shit

Sorry for the terrible broscientific explanation

flinstones1 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 15, 2015, 09:28:54 PM »

Quote from: Jizmo on April 04, 2015, 02:23:29 PM

i deffo agree
its just that.. 500mg is better than 350
and 700 is better than 500
and 1000 is better than 700

tren just gets better better better the more you blast lol, even more so than other AAS

You dont find it makes you flat when you go too high? I find if I dont eat 6 meals around the clock I go flat very quick when Im on very high amounts of tren. More cuts yes but the loss in fullness is noticable.

Damios · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2015, 09:51:25 PM »

flinstones1, what's Your Test dosage? Maybe bump it

Jizmo · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:20:52 AM »

Quote from: flinstones1 on April 15, 2015, 09:28:54 PM

You dont find it makes you flat when you go too high? I find if I dont eat 6 meals around the clock I go flat very quick when Im on very high amounts of tren. More cuts yes but the loss in fullness is noticable.

not at all, since the more tren i use the heavier the sugar cravings are
if i didnt use appetite suppressants WHENEVER im on tren (even bulking) i'd be fat as fuck

the tren+t3 combo can eat through carbs extremely quick though, its insane

im never completely full of glycogen when bulking on that combo unless i use pre workout slin and cram in the carbs during the active window or have a heavy cheat day on top of normal bulking calories

equipoise · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2015, 11:40:02 AM »

I've heard that once you cruise on really low doses for a few months (or go off completely) and then go back on again, you can make better gains with lower doses. Is this true, or bro science?

irishdave · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2015, 02:43:07 PM »

Quote from: equipoise on April 16, 2015, 11:40:02 AM

I've heard that once you cruise on really low doses for a few months (or go off completely) and then go back on again, you can make better gains with lower doses. Is this true, or bro science?

I wonder about this also. Do your receptors become more sensitive again?

kevthekid · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2015, 03:27:44 PM »

Quote from: equipoise on April 16, 2015, 11:40:02 AM

I've heard that once you cruise on really low doses for a few months (or go off completely) and then go back on again, you can make better gains with lower doses. Is this true, or bro science?

That's complete bullshit there's no way you can come off for a few months then get back on and make better gains. You will shrink right back to your original size if you come off for months at a time