What percentage of AAS users are on Tren?

[Thong Maniac]

Is Tren use at an all time epidemic? I swear all these pics of gym rats and muscle men posted its like a zoo of tren use.

This compound is a huge health gamble for sooo many reasons (even dementia and alzhemers). I want to use it so bad but it just seems like russian roulette

Is the gym rat typical AAS user now opting for harsher crazier drugs over just relatively safe test and dbol?
Every forum i read its ALL about tren now...tren yr round, tren 6 month a year, tren with every blast, etc etc.

Im pretty sure tren is a hefty carcinogen as well.

[bigbadwolfe]

Will make you big and strong as fu-ck but will kill your dick!

[Thong Maniac]

Will make you big and strong as fu-ck but will kill your dick!

Exactly my point here...what u mentioned is considered the biggest price to pay for sides...
In reality that should be the least concerning thing

[Palpatine Q]

I like the dementia...like being high as fuck 24/7....no come down, no hangover..you're just a little insane is all.  it's not that bad once you get over the stigma. and EVERYONE telling you..."you should get anger management..."   blah, blah blah...anger this motherfucker....STFU or I'm going to crush your skull into paste with toaster oven....my temper is fine.

WHAT  ??!!??!!!

[bigbadwolfe]

Its a love hate relationship hahaha!

[mazrim]

Will make you big and strong as fu-ck but will kill your dick!

Never had that issue with tren.

[io856]

Tren year round wouldn't be ideal

[residue]

Will make you big and strong as fu-ck but will kill your dick!

that's so odd, tren makes my dick come alive more than any other compound. my gf looks forward to it like it's christmas time. 

[bigbadwolfe]

Never had that issue with tren.

I've heard this over and over and over in the powerlifting world and my own personal experiences

[bigbadwolfe]

Tren is great but I highly recommend it in no more then 6-8 weeks tops and then get far far away from it for awhile. You couple this with 750-1000 mg of test a week you become an instant monster!!!

[Thong Maniac]

A bunch of posts and not one mention of health and real long term issues that might come up.
This proves my point. Gym rats dont care anymore about being safe

[Palpatine Q]

A bunch of posts and not one mention of health and real long term issues that might come up.
This proves my point. Gym rats dont care anymore about being safe

gonna be 51 in june bud.  bp 109/59  resting hr 58-61 bpm

for me,  taking precautions and being mindful of your health truly goes without saying, I assume everyone here has a brain.

[Thong Maniac]

gonna be 51 in june bud.  bp 109/59  resting hr 58-61 bpm

for me,  taking precautions and being mindful of your health truly goes without saying, I assume everyone here has a brain.

That bp is nice. What line of work you in? Im stressed often which has me around 132/70 often

[io856]

http://www.ergo-log.com/trenbolone-users-who-smoke-more-likely-to-get-cancer.html

[Core]

You can thank gh15.

Trens not so bad. I never had any issues other than acne and terrible cardio from it. Ideally use it in 3 month blasts no longer than that tho. I like test and masteron better than test and tren tho.

Great year round to run 1cc tedt and mast if you dont have issues with mpb.

[Palpatine Q]

That bp is nice. What line of work you in? Im stressed often which has me around 132/70 often

that's on tren and test prop...NO bs whatsoever.

cardio cardio cardio.  hard cardio, not walking on a treadmill.  hard biking for me.

132/70 won't have many docs alarmed, it's a bit high but not "holy fuck!"

[mazrim]

A bunch of posts and not one mention of health and real long term issues that might come up.
This proves my point. Gym rats dont care anymore about being safe

Not necessarily. All of them can have very bad sides. Honestly feel the best on tren then any other. Felt awful on higer test (500mg to 750mg). In fact even on lower doses then that not a huge fan of test. Never did extensive blood work but will start now that nearing 30. I know bp has been fine on tren. Felt lethargic/piglike on higher test or deca.
None of these compounds are necessarily "safe". Individually based. Tren sides are overrated, IMO.

[mazrim]

I've heard this over and over and over in the powerlifting world and my own personal experiences

Maybe different in powerlifting world but hear the opposite mostly in bbing world (as long as estrogen is under control). Assuming a lot of pl's might not run ai as don't mind being puffier as aids in strength?

[spiro]

I see a lot of guys especially because of gh15 running grams of tren. A lot of them are using it year round too. Who know what's going to happen.

[da_vinci]

A bunch of posts and not one mention of health and real long term issues that might come up.
This proves my point. Gym rats dont care anymore about being safe

I perform regular blood tests. After like 3 months on tren my results came back close to perfect. I guess genetics determine of how bad it may be. And that was a legit shit, the best there is.

[liquid_c]

I haven't used Tren in a while.  Just not worth it anymore.  Can't sleep and the terrible cough you can get when you inject it along with dark colored urine.  As I have gotten older, I am trying to stick with as many compounds I can still get in pharm grade or true vet grade form.  Test, Deca, Dbol, Anadrol, Winstrol.   The quality of "generic" raw materials in China seems to have gotten worse over the last year. 

[Thong Maniac]

Anyone want some Trenbowlin?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6_5gXgXOeh8

[JasonH]

I've just finished an 8 week stack involving some tren ace within a rip blend.

My thoughts:

Good - Strength, lean gains, no acne, no aromatisation, hardness, libido.

Bad - Lethargy, loss of appetite, piss like rust, slight paranoia, night sweats.

Like someone else in the thread said, it's a love/hate thing, gotta take the good with the bad.

[Van_Bilderass]

It might be dangerous in some ways, safer in others. Dose dependent etc etc.

check this out Thong:

Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2011 Apr;300(4):E650-60. doi: 10.1152/ajpendo.00440.2010. Epub 2011 Jan 25.
17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone) exhibits tissue selective anabolic activity: effects on muscle, bone, adiposity, hemoglobin, and prostate.
Yarrow JF1, Conover CF, McCoy SC, Lipinska JA, Santillana CA, Hance JM, Cannady DF, VanPelt TD, Sanchez J, Conrad BP, Pingel JE, Wronski TJ, Borst SE.
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Abstract

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) now under development can protect against muscle and bone loss without causing prostate growth or polycythemia. 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone), a potent testosterone analog, may have SARM-like actions because, unlike testosterone, trenbolone does not undergo tissue-specific 5α-reduction to form more potent androgens. We tested the hypothesis that trenbolone-enanthate (TREN) might prevent orchiectomy-induced losses in muscle and bone and visceral fat accumulation without increasing prostate mass or resulting in adverse hemoglobin elevations. Male F344 rats aged 3 mo underwent orchiectomy or remained intact and were administered graded doses of TREN, supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate, or vehicle for 29 days. In both intact and orchiectomized animals, all TREN doses and supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate augmented androgen-sensitive levator ani/bulbocavernosus muscle mass by 35-40% above shams (P ≤ 0.001) and produced a dose-dependent partial protection against orchiectomy-induced total and trabecular bone mineral density losses (P < 0.05) and visceral fat accumulation (P < 0.05). The lowest doses of TREN successfully maintained prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations at sham levels in both intact and orchiectomized animals, whereas supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate and high-dose TREN elevated prostate mass by 84 and 68%, respectively (P < 0.01). In summary, low-dose administration of the non-5α-reducible androgen TREN maintains prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations near the level of shams while producing potent myotrophic actions in skeletal muscle and partial protection against orchiectomy-induced bone loss and visceral fat accumulation. Our findings indicate that TREN has advantages over supraphysiological testosterone and supports the need for future preclinical studies examining the viability of TREN as an option for androgen replacement therapy.

For me, the mood effects are the most troublesome. Like a dark cloud constantly hanging over you. Higher doses cause severe lethargy. Night sweats aren't too fun either, nor the heavy breathing.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I've just finished an 8 week stack involving some tren ace within a rip blend.

My thoughts:

Good - Strength, lean gains, no acne, no aromatisation, hardness, libido.

Bad - Lethargy, loss of appetite, piss like rust, slight paranoia, night sweats.

Like someone else in the thread said, it's a love/hate thing, gotta take the good with the bad.

Love the night sweats.  I sometimes wonder if I pissed myself,  hahaha.  Always on edge is hard.  Sometimes the dumbest shit makes you want to snap someone's neck