The Pagan origins of Easter. Happy Easter Getbig!!!!

[illuminati]

Clearly each to there own.
Personally I find it hard to understand how so many otherwise intelligent people believe in a god /religion.
My God is better than your God.
If you don't stop believing in your God & start believing in my God we will kill you.
God in all his religious interpretations is God.
Yet which God is the true God.
All the killing pain & suffering done & caused in gods name.
Yet he is all seeing all powerful & everywhere Yet He Lets This Continue.

It makes zero sense to me.
And as yet I have not heard one or even remotely close to one convincing explanation for all the crap that goes on in the name of God & Religion.
 

[BigRo]

It's easy friend if you want to know the reality of God.  Just confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that he rose from the dead and you'll be saved, deemed righteous and have the spirit of God in you.  You begin to live for his will and deny your self and watch how he reveals himself to you personally over and over....

God is all about faithful belief and loving surrender.

I think he'd wondering where the risen Jesus actually is as he cannot see him.

Jesus survived the crucifixion, left Israel and travelled to north India to live out a long life in Kashmir

[SF1900]

Clearly each to there own.
Personally I find it hard to understand how so many otherwise intelligent people believe in a god /religion.
My God is better than your God.
If you don't stop believing in your God & start believing in my God we will kill you.
God in all his religious interpretations is God.
Yet which God is the true God.
All the killing pain & suffering done & caused in gods name.
Yet he is all seeing all powerful & everywhere Yet He Lets This Continue.

It makes zero sense to me.
And as yet I have not heard one or even remotely close to one convincing explanation for all the crap that goes on in the name of God & Religion.
 

And, yet, theists will have some sort of explanation for you. They can never just say, "I don't know." They have it all figured out.   We must all be ignorant and stupid, for they have ALL the answers to every question you have.

As Mark Twain said, "Respect those who seek the truth, be wary of those who claim to have found it." Thus, be wary of religious people.

[Man of Steel]

I guess so. Its easier to look the other way. It helps you avoid many things, which you would rather not face. Denial is a dangirous road, my friend.  

If that's what you think I'm about that's fine.  It's not correct but what can I do about it? I say black and you say white.  I say up and you say down.  I say off and you say on.....ad nauseum.  It's silly and I put a minimum of effort into replies now.

Back to my family now....

[SF1900]

If that's what you think I'm about that's fine.  It's not correct but what can I do about it? I say black and you say white.  I say up and you say down.  I say off and you say on.....ad nauseum.  It's silly and I put a minimum of effort into replies now.

When you found out ALL of the cases of priests raping little boys, and the church not doing anything about it (in fact, sending them to other churches to avoid prosecution), did you turn away? Did you say that other people were being insulting who called out the catholic church for this disgusting practice? Did you deny it actually happened? Or did you try and do something about it? Or were you too fearful to "call out" the church on their disgusting actions toward children?

[King Shizzo]

LOL!  I'm thrilled that Christians have subverted pagan and occult celebrations and replaced them with celebrations about our Lord, God and Savior! Darkness has been substituted for light....and Christ Jesus is glorified and magnified!

Hallelujah he's alive and we can proclaim that over and over and over in threads like this!

I sincerely appreciate the atheist community for their consistent annual support in helping point these things out.

Happy Easter...our Lord is alive!

Seriously, I have nothing but respect for you. Every Yin needs a Yang, and I enjoy hearing your viewpoints.

[BigRo]

who is your Yang Shizzo lol

[King Shizzo]

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Insult? Sorry, but if a theist is saying that parents are doing harm to children by allowing them to celebrate halloween and it will have detrimental effects on the child, that, in and of itself, IS INSULTING! You can't complain when insulting comments are equally met with insulting comments.

Its very easy to hide insults under the guise of religion, then say, "WELL, ITS MY RELIGION."  Anyone can be a self-righteous, insulting asshole, and hide it under any ideological system. Doesn't make it right.


Like I've said before. ...you do you and I'll do me. 

Looks like Jesus couldn't help you with that quote function.

[SF1900]

who is your Yang Shizzo lol

AJ.

[King Shizzo]

who is your Yang Shizzo lol

[Man of Steel]

When you found out ALL of the cases of priests raping little boys, and the church not doing anything about it (in fact, sending them to other churches to avoid prosecution), did you turn away? Did you say that other people were being insulting who called out the catholic church for this disgusting practice? Did you deny it actually happened? Or did you try and do something about it? Or were you too fearful to "call out" the church on their disgusting actions toward children?

My primary stance against Roman Catholicism is that I'm not a member of the Catholic church and I deny it's theology and practices.

I stand for Jesus Christ and affirm his will for my life.  

I have no control over the evil folks in this world...theist or atheist.  I live out the love of Christ and let the world provide a contrast against that.

Ok really back to my family. ..have a good night.

[King Shizzo]

My primary stance against Roman Catholicism is that I'm not a member of the Catholic church and I deny it's theology and practices.

I stand for Jesus Christ and affirm his will for my life. 

I have no control over the evil folks in this world...theist or atheist.  I live out the love of Christ and let the world provide a contrast against that.

Do you give the Romans any credit for fulfilling the prophecy and making Christianity, the official religion?

Your salvation would not exist without the help of Pontius Pilate.

[SF1900]

My primary stance against Roman Catholicism is that I'm not a member of the Catholic church and I deny it's theology and practices.

I stand for Jesus Christ and affirm his will for my life. 

I have no control over the evil folks in this world...theist or atheist.  I live out the love of Christ and let the world provide a contrast against that.

So, you did nothing? You don't have to be a member of something to fight for what is right! I am not homeless, does that mean I can't fight to end homelessness? I am not a child, does that mean I can't fight to end child abuse? Most people have not control over evil people, does that mean people shouldn't try to end child abuse, human trafficking, community violence, etc?

A very selfish way of looking at the world. Because you're not Roman Catholic and you have no direct control over evil people, you will just let it persist? Glad to know where you stand with things.  

[Nirvana]

1. Wiggs is not a Hebrew or an anointed, holy, chosen, prophet. It wouldn't matter if he was a legitimate Hebrew anyway; the banquet was set, the chosen people were invited and they decided they had better to do, so God invited everyone, not just black people.

2.The Law (which was intended for only the Israelites for only a specific time) was fulfilled with Jesus. That's why we don't use it anymore. That's why Jesus touched "unclean" people, ate unclean foods, and worked on the Sabbath. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath".

3.Shizzo is not the Yin to MOS's Yang. MOS is well versed and intelligent. Shizzo is ignorant and foolish.

4. Everyone is religious. You don't have a choice. You will believe in and devote your life to something be it a god, girl, drug, TV show, job, money, power, sex, etc.

5. There'll be no "Stop, Drop, and Roll" in hell 

[SF1900]

1. Wiggs is not a Hebrew or an anointed, holy, chosen, prophet. It wouldn't matter if he was a legitimate Hebrew anyway; the banquet was set, the chosen people were invited and they decided they had better to do, so God invited everyone, not just black people.

2.The Law (which was intended for only the Israelites for only a specific time) was fulfilled with Jesus. That's why we don't use it anymore. That's why Jesus touched "unclean" people, ate unclean foods, and worked on the Sabbath. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath".

3.Shizzo is not the Yin to MOS's Yang. MOS is well versed and intelligent. Shizzo is ignorant and foolish.

4. Everyone is religious. You don't have a choice. You will believe in and devote your life to something be it a god, girl, drug, TV show, job, money, power, sex, etc.

5. There'll be no "Stop, Drop, and Roll" in hell 

Not everyone is religious. Maybe everyone is spiritual. Spiritual is the broad term, and religion is one way to be spiritual. There are other ways  to be spiritual (yoga, meditation, science). So, its best to say everyone is spiritual, not religious. I see it as spiritual being the root of a tree, and the branches are the multitude (religion, yoga, science, meditation, etc.) of ways people are spiritual.

[chaos]

So, you did nothing? You don't have to be a member of something to fight for what is right! I am not homeless, does that mean I can't fight to end homelessness? I am not a child, does that mean I can't fight to end child abuse? Most people have not control over evil people, does that mean people shouldn't try to end child abuse, human trafficking, community violence, etc?

A very selfish way of looking at the world. Because you're not Roman Catholic and you have no direct control over evil people, you will just let it persist? Glad to know where you stand with things.  

What did you do? Did you turn a blind eye to the child abuse because it's going on in a church and you don't believe in religion?

[MCWAY]

Many, perhaps most, Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area had a major seasonal day of religious celebration at or following the Spring Equinox. Cybele, the Phrygian fertility goddess, had a consort, Attis, who was believed to have been born via a virgin birth. Attis was believed to have died and been resurrected each year during the period MAR-22 to MAR-25.




This type of information has always made the most sense to me. Gods and goddesses were already pulling a Jesus before Jesus did.

Born of a virgin? Check.  

Died and resurrected? Check.

So why are we to take the story of Jesus as "gospel", when ancient cultures had similar stories?


Let me guess, the devil planted those seeds purposely to send man astray from the lord......

From what I read about Attis, he doesn't rise from the dead. Heck, he died after getting his nuts chopped off, as he had the hots for his mother.....a far cry from the story of Jesus. Furthermore, he wasn't conceived immaculately. His mama got her freak on with one of the gods.

[Tapeworm]

4. Everyone is religious. You don't have a choice. You will believe in and devote your life to something be it a god, girl, drug, TV show, job, money, power, sex, etc.

Message board.  Gimmie that 'ol risen Ron Avidan and I'll be on my knees in two shakes of a lamb's tail!

[SF1900]

What did you do? Did you turn a blind eye to the child abuse because it's going on in a church and you don't believe in religion?

Nice trolling attempt.  

[Irongrip400]

Many, perhaps most, Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area had a major seasonal day of religious celebration at or following the Spring Equinox. Cybele, the Phrygian fertility goddess, had a consort, Attis, who was believed to have been born via a virgin birth. Attis was believed to have died and been resurrected each year during the period MAR-22 to MAR-25.




This type of information has always made the most sense to me. Gods and goddesses were already pulling a Jesus before Jesus did.

Born of a virgin? Check.  

Died and resurrected? Check.

So why are we to take the story of Jesus as "gospel", when ancient cultures had similar stories?


Let me guess, the devil planted those seeds purposely to send man astray from the lord......

Similar to the story of Matras (sp?)

[The Ugly]

I don't get the whole "He gave His only begotten son" deal. How did He give anything? Dude dies, where does he go? Right back with God. So how is this a sacrifice? Took sounds more like it.

If anything, He gave when He sent him here. Then again, He IS him, so how did He ever part with Himself? I don't think they really thought this thing through.

[chaos]

People overthink religion like they overthink lifting weights.

[wes]

Happy freakin` Easter......... ya` pricks ya` !!

[The Ugly]

And how can we be sure "He is risen" wasn't referring to an Apostle's boner?

[wes]

And how can we be sure "He is risen" wasn't referring to an Apostle's boner?