Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?

[njflex]

Would rather look like Shawn too.

Dex is good but he competed in a pretty shitty era, just ronnie was good.
Plus he looks like a turtle, has high lats and zero calves.

Shawn competed against many greats and was more complete.

WIGGS AND CALFZILLA GOOD POINTS,,,THERE IS 2 S RAYS ,,1988 TO 94 PRETTY BOY SHAWN ,HOLDING ON TO HIS FLAT TOP ,HAD SICK FULL MUSCLE/GREAT SHAPE AND RIPPED ...95 DONS WEAVE  FOR 1 SHOW 'ARNOLD',,96 SHAVED HEAD VERSION ON UP BUILD GETS DIFFERENT LOOK SOME PRETTY CRAZY CONDITION MORE PEELED AT TIMES.. BRINGS LEGS DOWN A BIT TO MATCH UPPER BODY ..GREAT RUN..

[Wiggs]

Would rather look like Shawn too.

Dex is good but he competed in a pretty shitty era, just ronnie was good.
Plus he looks like a turtle, has high lats and zero calves.

Shawn competed against many greats and was more complete.

Someone please point this out to ND. I know he'll ignore it but we should at least try. 

[Tennisballz]

right bicep looks oiled up.

[Iceman1981]

1994 was his best in my opinion................

[njflex]

1994 was his best in my opinion................

pretty wicked.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Aint gettin' into it with you today.  Keep it movin.  You talk that shit about Dexter and Shawn with pro victories but if I point out that Ronnie has more Olympias than Dorian then you'll change the argument to winning percentage.  You change arguments to fit your agenda I've been over this with you for several years.  LOL  Shawn not on Dexter's level and Shawn beat him every time they competed against each other, yeah, ok bro  . Let me guess, not a prime Dex right?  Kinda like not a prime Coleman against Dorian.  Get outta here.  I destroy your logic and reasoning everytime we do this.  You've had a hardon against Shawn for the last month.  Shawn Ray was not overrated  He was right where he belongs.

Typical Wiggs when confronted with facts , just keep on trucking regardless. let me simplify this for you

Mr Olympia Dexter Jackson 21 pro victories Mr 
Shawn 2

cased closed.

Dexter kicks Shawns ass as a competitive bodybuilder it's not open for discussion.

Now we can play the " What If " game but facts are facts Wiggs and facts aren't your friend.

[NarcissisticDeity]

1994 was his best in my opinion................

That's what the consensus was. He looked great that year and still was behind Levrone after the prejudging lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Wiggs]

Typical Wiggs when confronted with facts , just keep on trucking regardless. let me simplify this for you

Mr Olympia Dexter Jackson 21 pro victories Mr  
Shawn 2

cased closed.

Dexter kicks Shawns ass as a competitive bodybuilder it's not open for discussion.

Now we can play the " What If " game but facts are facts Wiggs and facts aren't your friend.

No one's arguing who has more victories.  That's very evident.  What is a fact is that EVERY TIME Dexter competed against Shawn, DEXTER LOST.  
3-0.  That is not open for discussion. There is no what ifs.  Dexter has never beaten Shawn Ray.  FACT  Dexter has the better record.  Shawn is more complete.  Having a better record doesn't make you the better bodybuilder. You argue this point all the time with Ronnie and Dorian.

Facts aren't your friend.

[NarcissisticDeity]

No one's arguing who has more victories.  That's very evident.  What is a fact is that EVERY TIME Dexter competed against Shawn, DEXTER LOST. 
3-0.  That is not open for discussion. There is no what ifs.  Dexter has never beaten Shawn Ray.  FACT  Dexter has the better record.  Shawn is the better bodybuilder.  Having a better record doesn't make you the better bodybuilder. You argue this point all the time with Ronnie and Dorian.

Facts aren't your friend.

Same logic applies to Ronnie , never beat Dorian , etc , etc , etc Now if you say Ronnie wasn't Ronnie when Dorian beat him you have to concede Dexter wasn't Dexter when Shawn beat him. You can't have it both ways.

Who has a better physique at their best? That's subjective and in my opinion it's Dexter. Who is a better competitive bodybuilder? No question Dexter

[affeman]

Mr Olympia Dexter Jackson 21 pro victories Mr 
Shawn 2

cased closed.

Dexter kicks Shawns ass as a competitive bodybuilder it's not open for discussion.

Now we can play the " What If " game but facts are facts Wiggs and facts aren't your friend.

So according to your argumentation:

Ronnie Coleman 8 sandows, Dorian Yates 6 sandwos

Ronnie kicks Dorians ass as a competitive bodybuilder it's not open for discussion.

Now we can play the " What If " game but facts are facts....

[NarcissisticDeity]

So according to your argumentation:

Ronnie Coleman 8 sandows, Dorian Yates 6 sandwos

Ronnie kicks Dorians ass as a competitive bodybuilder it's not open for discussion.

Now we can play the " What If " game but facts are facts....

technically yes , Ronnie is the best competitive bodybuilder he has the most Olympias and the most pro victories.

However he NEVER beat Dorian in a contest  they faced each other I believe 8 times and Ronnie lost all 8 

Facts-are-Facts Dorian always beat Ronnie

[Wiggs]

Same logic applies to Ronnie , never beat Dorian , etc , etc , etc Now if you say Ronnie wasn't Ronnie when Dorian beat him you have to concede Dexter wasn't Dexter when Shawn beat him. You can't have it both ways.

Who has a better physique at their best? That's subjective and in my opinion it's Dexter. Who is a better competitive bodybuilder? No question Dexter

Bro,  do you read? How many times do I have to type Dexter has a better competitive record before it sinks in?  I started a thread on this last month giving Dexter all the props in the world.  Dexter is an all time great because of his consistency, and his Olympia win. Shawn is an all time great because of his completeness.

This is you changing arguments not me. I'm using your words against you. Shawns best is better than Dexters.  Why?  Because Shawn is more complete.  Dexter can't touch Shawn and has never come close. 

[andreisdaman]

Had? Dexter still has a better physique than a prime Shawn Gay

NO

[Wiggs]

technically yes , Ronnie is the best competitive bodybuilder he has the most Olympias and the most pro victories.

However he NEVER beat Dorian in a contest   they faced each other I believe 8 times and Ronnie lost all 8  

Facts-are-Facts Dorian always beat Ronnie

That's fine. Then with that logic which I use against you every time and it's true, Haney has 8 Mr. Os to Dorian's 6 AND he's beaten him head to head.  
Facts are facts. Haney beat Dorian and has more Olympias.  

Haney is the better man.  The best man.

[andreisdaman]

No one's arguing who has more victories.  That's very evident.  What is a fact is that EVERY TIME Dexter competed against Shawn, DEXTER LOST.  
3-0.  That is not open for discussion. There is no what ifs.  Dexter has never beaten Shawn Ray.  FACT  Dexter has the better record.  Shawn is more complete.  Having a better record doesn't make you the better bodybuilder. You argue this point all the time with Ronnie and Dorian.

Facts aren't your friend.

no taking sides but Shawn competed against MUCH MUCH better competetion

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's fine. Then with that logic which I use against you every time and it's true, Haney has 8 Mr. Os to Dorian's 6 AND he's beaten him head to head.  
Facts are facts. Haney beat Dorian and has more Olympias.  

Haney is the better man.  The best man.

Haney was better than Dorian. Dorian forced him into retirement lol 

[affeman]

Haney was better than Dorian. Dorian forced him into retirement lol 

And Ronnie forced Dorian into retirement

[Wiggs]

Haney was better than Dorian. Dorian forced him into retirement lol 

Yes, he forced him into retirement with his zero wins and zero sandows against him.  Seems legit.

[Wiggs]

no taking sides but Shawn competed against MUCH MUCH better competetion

Agreed my friend.

[NarcissisticDeity]

And Ronnie forced Dorian into retirement

No stop it lol Ronnie was 9th in 97

Yes, he forced him into retirement with his zero wins and zero sandows against him.  Seems legit.

He beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round  in his acceptance speech after winning the Olympia in 91 Haney when asked if he was going to retired said he just learned how to peak on the day of the contest and said he may be around for more wins lol he never returned why? 

[Royalty]

I gotta give Dexter the edge in the mass department

[Wiggs]

No stop it lol Ronnie was 9th in 97

He beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round  in his acceptance speech after winning the Olympia in 91 Haney when asked if he was going to retired said he just learned how to peak on the day of the contest and said he may be around for more wins lol he never returned why? 

Because he beat Arnold's record and Yates ushered in an era of drug abuse Haney didn't want any part of.  That's why.  Dorian ruined bodybuilding. FACT.

[affeman]

No stop it lol Ronnie was 9th in 97

Sorry, my fault. It was Nasser the beautiful man with glasses who butt-raped Dorian in front of the eyes of the entire "industry" and forced him into retirement

[NarcissisticDeity]

Because he beat Arnold's record and Yates ushered in an era of drug abuse Haney didn't want any part of.  That's why.  Dorian ruined bodybuilding. FACT.

Wrong again  Momo did that