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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #125 on: April 07, 2015, 11:15:25 PM »
Gotta give it to Shawn. Just better shape and flow overall to his physique. Always been one of my favorites. Dex is great as well, but his physique just doesn't really flow. Shawn's aesthetics and shape are hard to beat. If he was a little wider and had better thigh sweep, he'd be damn near perfect.

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #126 on: April 08, 2015, 10:14:45 AM »
And Dorian didn't retire on the day he won his last Olympia either.He announced his retirement a year later at the 98 Olympia,Ronnie's first win.By that time he was well aware of the vast improvements made by Coleman.Ronnie won the 97 Russian Grand Prix and since then he was on a roll,much improved at the 98 NOC and even more improved at the Olympia.And here was someone who could rival Dorian from the back(unlike Nasser). So theoretically it is possible that Dorian retired because of Ronnie.

Rubbish.  Dorian never feared any competitor, let alone one he always defeated handily.  He always stated he was competing against himself.  He retired due to his triceps tear not healing adequately for him to continue to compete.  A 249 pound Coleman, although more impressive than previous incarnations, was no threat to Dorian.  

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #127 on: April 08, 2015, 10:20:59 AM »
Rubbish.  Dorian never feared any competitor, let alone one he always defeated handily.  He always stated he was competing against himself.  He retired to due his triceps tear not healing adequately for him to continue to compete.  A 249 pound Coleman, although more impressive than previous incarnations, was no threat to Dorian. 

252 at the night show.  And yes, 97 Dorian compares to 98 Coleman.  Dorian would have been blown out. 
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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #128 on: April 08, 2015, 10:23:20 AM »
which one prolapsed the most anuses?

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2015, 10:24:07 AM »
252 at the night show.  And yes, 97 Dorian compares to 98 Coleman.  Dorian would have been blown out.  

Not sure about that, but who says Dorian would have returned in his 1997 shape?  Where did Ronnie place in 97 again?  Well back in 9th.  Dorian had more than enough room to win again if in good form.

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Re: Who had the better physique Shawn ray or dexter jackson?
« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2015, 10:32:25 AM »

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« Reply #131 on: April 08, 2015, 10:33:08 AM »
Not sure about that, but who says Dorian would have returned in his 1997 shape?  Where did Ronnie place in 97 again?  Well back in 9th.  Dorian had more than enough room to win again if in good form.

I'm 100% sure about it.  Ronnie was 252 for the evening show.  Anyway.  Dorian was getting progressively worse, not better.  Would not have won in 98. Coleman was too fresh. 
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Re: Who had the better physique Shawn ray or dexter jackson?
« Reply #132 on: April 08, 2015, 10:34:37 AM »
shawn still looked better

I agree, I'd rather have Shawn's physique, but in bodybuilding terms, Shawn isn't in Dexter's league.  Shawn was a mid-carder trying to be a main-eventer.

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #133 on: April 08, 2015, 10:36:30 AM »
I'm 100% sure about it.  Ronnie was 252 for the evening show.  Anyway.  Dorian was getting progressively worse, not better.  Would not have won in 98. Coleman was too fresh.  

Yet, he barely beat an off Flex Wheeler.  You're not sure about anything.  Even off his best, Yates got straight firsts in 97.

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Re: Who had the better physique Shawn ray or dexter jackson?
« Reply #134 on: April 08, 2015, 10:36:32 AM »
I agree, I'd rather have Shawn's physique, but in bodybuilding terms, Shawn isn't in Dexter's league.  Shawn was a mid-carder trying to be a main-eventer.

If bodybuilding was judged that way it's written, Shawn would beat Dexter every time.  Shawn's physique flows, Dexter's doesn't compared to Shawn.
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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #135 on: April 08, 2015, 10:41:29 AM »
Yet, he barely beat an off Flex Wheeler.  You're not sure about anything.  Even off his best, Yates got straight firsts in 97.



Ronnie went from 9th to 1st. That is an absolutely insane jump. I'm very sure.  Coleman would have stomped Yates.
Yeah, thanks to the fair and impartial judging right?  Get outta here.
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Re: Who had the better physique Shawn ray or dexter jackson?
« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2015, 10:44:02 AM »
If bodybuilding was judged that way it's written, Shawn would beat Dexter every time.  Shawn's physique flows, Dexter's doesn't compared to Shawn.

And if being a narrow midget were the criteria, Shawn would have won more than 2 contests in his entire career.

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2015, 10:57:08 AM »


Ronnie went from 9th to 1st. That is an absolutely insane jump. I'm very sure.  Coleman would have stomped Yates.
Yeah, thanks to the fair and impartial judging right?  Get outta here.

Contests are based on judging, whether you agree with it or not.  You'd rather it be based on your personal subjective preference, but that's not how it works.  Coleman barely beat an off Flex, never mind tangling with Yates.  Had Flex been on, Ronnie would have lost.  Based on judging history, Coleman would have lost to a remotely in shape Dorian.  Even Ronnie stated that Yates would have kept winning.  Ronnie couldn't cut the mustard until Yates abdicated his throne. A 1997 Yates would still have been too much for Ronnie in 1998, never mind if Dorian were closer to his top form.


 




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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #138 on: April 08, 2015, 06:28:22 PM »
Dexter all the way
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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #139 on: April 08, 2015, 06:35:38 PM »
Shawn Ray.



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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2015, 06:40:15 PM »
Yates crushed Lee Priest right there

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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #141 on: April 08, 2015, 06:44:56 PM »
Contests are based on judging, whether you agree with it or not.  You'd rather it be based on your personal subjective preference, but that's not how it works.  Coleman barely beat an off Flex, never mind tangling with Yates.  Had Flex been on, Ronnie would have lost.  Based on judging history, Coleman would have lost to a remotely in shape Dorian.  Even Ronnie stated that Yates would have kept winning.  Ronnie couldn't cut the mustard until Yates abdicated his throne. A 1997 Yates would still have been too much for Ronnie in 1998, never mind if Dorian were closer to his top form.


 




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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #142 on: April 08, 2015, 06:55:22 PM »
Ronnie was shredded in 1998. Here, he makes Shawn look small & smooth



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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #143 on: April 08, 2015, 07:35:27 PM »
Ronnie was shredded in 1998. Here, he makes Shawn look small & smooth




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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #144 on: April 08, 2015, 07:36:07 PM »
Yates crushed Lee Priest right there


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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #145 on: April 08, 2015, 07:41:43 PM »
for those talking about ronnie vs dorian 97, compare how Ronnie looked in 1997 to how he looked in 1999: look at the jump in size and cuts.

dorian was so far behind this level of development (ronnie 99) it was insane (even at his 93 best). his time was up and he knew it.
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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2015, 07:54:42 PM »
If Dorian kept competing, Coleman would have supplanted him so the argument is pointless.  If Dorian won in 98, it would have been a huge gift and a robbery due to judging methods of the time, and he would have surely lost from 99 on.


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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #147 on: April 08, 2015, 09:03:36 PM »
Gotta give it to Shawn. Just better shape and flow overall to his physique. Always been one of my favorites. Dex is great as well, but his physique just doesn't really flow. Shawn's aesthetics and shape are hard to beat. If he was a little wider and had better thigh sweep, he'd be damn near perfect.

Shawn knew deep down he got cursed with  those fat black  genetics and its obvious when you look at his physique now......  not your  gifted  black guy  who could stay 6% eating mcdonalds and donuts and stays lean while pounding the slin like dex, thats the REAL reason Shawn never chased more size IMO, he knew his physique would go to shit the moment he started pushing it. The fact that dex is much bigger and still being compared to shawn in the aesthetic department shows you how good dexter is... Any   guy who knows anything about drugs and bbing will tell you Dexter's response to hormones is just incredible.
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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2015, 09:13:53 PM »
Until I see Dexter hit a vacuum pose.. he will never be better than Shawn.

Dex had(s) a turtle stomach and (minus) zero athletism, walked slower than 9month pregnat women.






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Re: Who had the better physique - Shawn ray or Dexter jackson?
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2015, 10:02:02 PM »
Rubbish.  Dorian never feared any competitor, let alone one he always defeated handily.  He always stated he was competing against himself.  He retired due to his triceps tear not healing adequately for him to continue to compete.  A 249 pound Coleman, although more impressive than previous incarnations, was no threat to Dorian.  
Haney never said he retired because of Dorian either.Probably the main reason for Dorian's retirement was the injury.But there can always be more than one reason.After all he kept competing after the biceps tear and in 98 he originally stated that he is taking a year off,but coming back in 99.Then suddenly he changed his mind.