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Re: White cop guns down black man on video. Charged with murder! Live on CNN
« Reply #425 on: April 09, 2015, 06:37:56 PM »
What's sad is the cop has a wife who is 8 months pregnant. Gee, I can't even imagine what she is going through.  :-\

cop was angry.  This dipshit running away is driving a tricked out BMW and getting more ass than a seat on a city bus.  Child support due and whatnot.

the cop probably drove a hyndai.  his wife is 8 months preggo, so he's not even getting BJ, much less laid, at this point.  He's making peanuts as a cop and blames obama for his hemorrhoids, not his lack of fiber.

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« Reply #426 on: April 09, 2015, 06:38:47 PM »
This is how Slapper thinks all white cops act.



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« Reply #427 on: April 09, 2015, 07:50:11 PM »
Man, the world is a fucked up place.  :(
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« Reply #428 on: April 09, 2015, 10:29:10 PM »
#slowpeoplematter

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« Reply #429 on: April 09, 2015, 10:31:05 PM »
unarmed man


trained officer, handcuffs, pepper spray, baton, taser, and gun



seems the only one that should be in fear of his life is the person being detained nowadays

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« Reply #430 on: April 09, 2015, 10:37:12 PM »
The top defensive player on the #1 seed in the EAST... and his NBA season is over.

"Injured during arrest" by NYPD.  ???   LOL unreal.

Video: Cops Throw Thabo Sefolosha To The Ground And Arrest Him
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ATLANTA — Atlanta forward Thabo Sefolosha will miss the Hawks’ final four regular-season games and the postseason because of a fractured right fibula and ligament damage suffered when he and teammate Pero Antic were arrested early Wednesday in New York.

The Hawks confirmed Sefolosha’s injury Thursday and said he will need surgery. The Swiss player was limping following the arrest.

“This is a very difficult situation for Thabo and our thoughts and support will be with him during his recovery,” Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer said in a statement. “We know that his approach and dedication will serve him well in his rehabilitation. Our team remains focused and will be prepared as we head into the postseason.”

Sefolosha’s attorney, Alex Spiro, said Wednesday the forward was injured during the arrest, which followed the stabbings of Indiana Pacers forward Chris Copeland, his girlfriend and another woman on the street near a Manhattan nightclub.

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« Reply #431 on: April 09, 2015, 11:02:20 PM »
Exactly, if your pregnant wife can't stop you from going KKK on a guy... Society has a place for you: Jail.

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« Reply #432 on: April 10, 2015, 01:07:45 AM »
Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....

What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.

It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.

When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.


Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.

It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?
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« Reply #433 on: April 10, 2015, 01:18:19 AM »
Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....

What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.

It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.

When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.


Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.

It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?

Without suspecting this on solid info, though, you can't simply open fire because the possibility exists that he's armed. Doesn't work that way. Fleeing suspect can certainly be dangerous, no doubt, but it doesn't justify lethal force without that threat being observed. Suspects flee all the time; they aren't gunned down for fleeing alone, however.

Probably just didn't wanna go to jail is all.

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« Reply #434 on: April 10, 2015, 02:01:43 AM »
Without suspecting this on solid info, though, you can't simply open fire because the possibility exists that he's armed. Doesn't work that way. Fleeing suspect can certainly be dangerous, no doubt, but it doesn't justify lethal force without that threat being observed. Suspects flee all the time; they aren't gunned down for fleeing alone, however.

Probably just didn't wanna go to jail is all.

Any officer that assumes someone is unarmed without actually having had the possibility to make 100% sure is not suitable for the job. I concur that the shooting was an excessive response, but am also of the opinion that noone would have batted an eye if let's say the officer was killed in pursuit.
Personally I differentiate between the suspect and the officer as such that; the suspect has more knowledge than the officer regarding weapons and intent, as you know what an officer has on his/herself and their capabilities. Whereas the officer is left having to anticipate and 'guesstimate' intent and potential threats. This combined with pretty much everyone being aware of incidents involving shootings by and of police officers at this stage, leaves me to question why anyone would would place themselves in a situation that could make them come-off as a potential threat.

Fleeing when your identity has already been confirmed is idiotic in every sense of the word, and really isn't worth risking your life for. In fact, it is a confirmation that you are aware that you've done something wrong. Knowing so, what right does one think they have to resist the system? My main issue is the apparent constant opposition of the police, a government institution instated to uphold the law.

There are 2 major issues right now; 1. being police transparency, and 2. the mindset, attitudes and perceptions of the police by the public.
Media and the public are claymoring for the first issue to be tackled, but personally I'm of the opinion that the second is much more needing of change.
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« Reply #435 on: April 10, 2015, 04:50:19 AM »
Any officer that assumes someone is unarmed without actually having had the possibility to make 100% sure is not suitable for the job. I concur that the shooting was an excessive response, but am also of the opinion that noone would have batted an eye if let's say the officer was killed in pursuit.
Personally I differentiate between the suspect and the officer as such that; the suspect has more knowledge than the officer regarding weapons and intent, as you know what an officer has on his/herself and their capabilities. Whereas the officer is left having to anticipate and 'guesstimate' intent and potential threats. This combined with pretty much everyone being aware of incidents involving shootings by and of police officers at this stage, leaves me to question why anyone would would place themselves in a situation that could make them come-off as a potential threat.

Fleeing when your identity has already been confirmed is idiotic in every sense of the word, and really isn't worth risking your life for. In fact, it is a confirmation that you are aware that you've done something wrong. Knowing so, what right does one think they have to resist the system? My main issue is the apparent constant opposition of the police, a government institution instated to uphold the law.

There are 2 major issues right now; 1. being police transparency, and 2. the mindset, attitudes and perceptions of the police by the public.
Media and the public are claymoring for the first issue to be tackled, but personally I'm of the opinion that the second is much more needing of change.


Possibly the dumbest 50 year old ever. His name and address was known.

He was running because of the $18,000 owed in back child support. I could understand him running if he was wanted for murder or kidnapping. But that was not the case.

Yeah, he would've spent the next day or two in jail. But he would've been bailed out. At his court date, the judge would order that his weekly paycheck would be garnished 10%-20%.

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« Reply #436 on: April 10, 2015, 07:02:36 AM »
Possibly the dumbest 50 year old ever. His name and address was known.

He was running because of the $18,000 owed in back child support. I could understand him running if he was wanted for murder or kidnapping. But that was not the case.

Yeah, he would've spent the next day or two in jail. But he would've been bailed out. At his court date, the judge would order that his weekly paycheck would be garnished 10%-20%.

both the officer and the suspect were idiots.......taking such minor matters and making them into something so serious

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« Reply #437 on: April 10, 2015, 07:38:33 AM »
both the officer and the suspect were idiots.......taking such minor matters and making them into something so serious

I agree.

Irresponsible.... On both sides of the equation

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« Reply #438 on: April 10, 2015, 08:06:52 AM »
Again the situation was started and ended BY THE COP. And the circumstances, the beginning, what happened in the middle and the end was the USUAL same: White cop stops black person and at the end of the encounter the black person is dead and the white cop comes out of it unscathed. Had it happened once, it would've been OK, but it's the sheer amount of these seemingly "disinterested" killings that do not make it OK. And yes, I DO want cops, from now on, when they stop a black person, just as when they stop a white person, to better think sixteen hundred times before unholstering that gun. And if you do, shoot the man/woman in a non-vital body part so that we get to hear what a fucking racist pig the cop is.    

He stopped this MAN because of a "broken brake light," which in cop talk really means "I stopped you because you are black".

The rest is bullshit and senseless prick-waving.

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« Reply #440 on: April 10, 2015, 08:29:41 AM »
As much as i hate bad Police and have had issues before with them lying and losing in court to me, the stupid fuck reached for his taser, dropped it, and ran off. Also why are they not near a car?

Damm right the Police should be nervous around people like this guy when they are unpredictable.

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« Reply #441 on: April 10, 2015, 09:04:20 AM »
As much as i hate bad Police and have had issues before with them lying and losing in court to me, the stupid fuck reached for his taser, dropped it, and ran off. Also why are they not near a car?

Damm right the Police should be nervous around people like this guy when they are unpredictable.

I think you are interpreting it wrong....when you see the taser fall to the ground it may have been stuck in the guy and when he ran he jerked the taser out of the cop's hand..however, I could be wrong as well

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« Reply #442 on: April 10, 2015, 09:24:58 AM »
I don't think that the cop was being a dick during the initial stop. But the cop would've had to arrest Scott with the pending bench warrant. And Scott obviously did not want to stick around for that.

Scott didn't realize that the cop that he was about to run from was VERY willing to start blasting away.






Yes, and I'm not sure the cop knew he was very willing to start blasting away.. until he did. 

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« Reply #443 on: April 10, 2015, 09:34:14 AM »
Which is fine and dandy, but you shoot him in the legs and then call an ambulance.

You cannot shoot another human being in the back five or six times and then claim that you were just trying to end the situation.

Why must this EVEN need to be pointed out?
Dude, go to a shooting range. Look at the target, there are no arms and legs on a target. You are taught "center mass". Shooting with a handgun in a high stress situation is hard enough as it is, limbs are hard targets to hit. Compound the issue that many officers have never drawn their weapons and shot someone. Most have only drawn their weapons to qualify on the range.

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« Reply #444 on: April 10, 2015, 09:44:52 AM »
I think a lot of people becoming cops because of the benefits it provides, with real no desire to serve and protect. You can retire after 20 years with a nice pension, benefits, etc. While youre on the force, you are part of a union, good medical coverage, annual raises, paid vacation, and as stated above, full pension after 20 years.

This definitely draws in people who are not bright enough to have jobs that require advanced degrees and cognitive skills.

I knew a kid in high school who was a bully. Not the brightest kid. Graduated high school, got 60 college credits by taking classes like Art appreciation, then became a cop. I mean, what else could he have done? Probably not much. However, he obviously needed a job, so become a cop. After 20 years, he is set with a nice pension.

Can you imagine if it was required that you needed a Masters degree to become a cop. 90% of the police officers would never make it.  :-\ :-\ If this was the case, at least you'd have smarter cops.
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« Reply #445 on: April 10, 2015, 09:45:56 AM »
cop was angry.  This dipshit running away is driving a tricked out BMW and getting more ass than a seat on a city bus.  Child support due and whatnot.

the cop probably drove a hyndai.  his wife is 8 months preggo, so he's not even getting BJ, much less laid, at this point.  He's making peanuts as a cop and blames obama for his hemorrhoids, not his lack of fiber.

When the two world collide, what happened is inevitable.

You just love the fantasy game dontcha?  ;)

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« Reply #446 on: April 10, 2015, 09:53:29 AM »
I think a lot of people becoming cops because of the benefits it provides, with real no desire to serve and protect. You can retire after 20 years with a nice pension, benefits, etc. While youre on the force, you are part of a union, good medical coverage, annual raises, paid vacation, and as stated above, full pension after 20 years.

This definitely draws in people who are not bright enough to have jobs that require advanced degrees and cognitive skills.

I knew a kid in high school who was a bully. Not the brightest kid. Graduated high school, got 60 college credits by taking classes like Art appreciation, then became a cop. I mean, what else could he have done? Probably not much. However, he obviously needed a job, so become a cop. After 20 years, he is set with a nice pension.

Can you imagine if it was required that you needed a Masters degree to become a cop. 90% of the police officers would never make it.  :-\ :-\ If this was the case, at least you'd have smarter cops.

I do get a kick out of your perception of how dull witted officers are. You'd be surprised at the level of talent a department with competitive pay and opportunities gets. You'd also be surprised at the screening process the funded and supported departments get to do in order to pick from the talent pool. The days of the bubba jock are over my friend. Welcome to 2015. I think I would be willing to bet with you I could randomly go to any show up/roll call in our city, randomly pick out an officer, and they would go toe to toe with you on an IQ test.   

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« Reply #447 on: April 10, 2015, 09:55:29 AM »
Dude, go to a shooting range. Look at the target, there are no arms and legs on a target. You are taught "center mass". Shooting with a handgun in a high stress situation is hard enough as it is, limbs are hard targets to hit. Compound the issue that many officers have never drawn their weapons and shot someone. Most have only drawn their weapons to qualify on the range.

why do you even bother?

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« Reply #448 on: April 10, 2015, 09:58:08 AM »
I do get a kick out of your perception of how dull witted officers are. You'd be surprised at the level of talent a department with competitive pay and opportunities gets. You'd also be surprised at the screening process the funded and supported departments get to do in order to pick from the talent pool. The days of the bubba jock are over my friend. Welcome to 2015. I think I would be willing to bet with you I could randomly go to any show up/roll call in our city, randomly pick out an officer, and they would go toe to toe with you on an IQ test.  

haha, sure lol. Keep thinking that, buddy. Fact of the matter is that if a Masters was required to become a cop, you'd have a great reduction in cops, as many would not be able to meet that requirement. But keep telling yourself that cops are "hidden geniuses." haha lol Most cops don't even know the constitution or laws lol.

I also bet cops can go toe-to-toe with a neurosurgeon or an astrophysicist on an IQ test, too? lol

And for what its worth, IQ is probably not the best predictor of intelligence. But you're a genius cop. You should have known that.  ??? ???
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« Reply #449 on: April 10, 2015, 10:01:24 AM »
Yet another highly politicized and racist incident....

What this shooting highlights is both the incredible bias that people have when it comes to interactions with the police. By default it is a loose-loose situation for the officers on the streets these days. Being dispatched to do their work and enforce laws and regulation, while being demonized and seen as an enemy of the people.

It's laughable how people's immediate reaction is to condemn the officer for the shooting of the supposedly 'unarmed' man. But how come noone is paying attention to what the suspect did? In a routine traffic-stop for a broken-tail light, he resisted and attempted to flee. Both of which actions can be interpreted as hazardous. If a person is willing to resist, what else are they capable of? It's easy to say the officer shot an 'unarmed' man, but in the real world you don't know whether someone is unarmed until you've searched them, and even then, an unarmed suspect can still be dangerous.
The actions of the suspect lead up to the shooting, and that fact should not be neglected.

When it comes to the actions of the officer following the shooting of the suspect, it is clear there needs to be a thorough investigation into the malpractice of the officer and appropriate punishment and due measures to prevent future incidents should be taken. After incidents such as this and Ferguson, at this point there is really no argument for officers out on the streets not to permanently wear camera's recording their actions, both for transparency purposes but also to ensure the safety of officers following interactions.


Really, what we are seeing here is the increasing radicalization of interactions by and with the police. Fueled by prejudice and bias, and the prevailent hostile attitudes towards one-an-other. So long as the police are demonized by the public and viewed as an enemy of the people rather than an aid of the people, how can we expect interactions to go any different? Here you have people on the one hand calling the police for aid when they are in trouble, but when they are on the receiving end of an investigation the police is the demon-dog himself.

It is always a loose-loose situation for the police, both its' officers and the institution, as they are constantly being critized for performing their duties whilst consistently having to deal with insubordination whilst under constant pressure of potential threats. Meanwhile suspects get a pass for their role within situations and interactions, because they are being, wrongly, victimized. If the police roll-out on you, that probably means you've done something you shouldn't. Why resist at all? Why not greet the officer in a friendly manor? Why not keep your hands on the steeringwheel, or roll down the window when instructed/requested? Why consistently and intentionally resist?

While I agree with the majority of what you say, and your painting the picture of the plight the police face these days is spot on, I have to disagree with your conclusions that the actions of Scott lead to the shooting. The actions of Scott lead to a foot chase, to a ineffective deployment of a taser, to a physical altercation. It may have eventually led to charges of evading, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer... but they should NOT have lead to a shooting. At the moment Scott disengaged and turned to run, he took deadly force off the table