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Re: To all the Liberals...
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2015, 03:04:21 PM »
Yes. No politician has ever passed any law or policy that drastically changed my life or helped me in any way. I though politicians were supposed to be "For the People." Even when Bush was in office, nothing he did helped out me or anyone I knew. Obviously, they arent suppose to give me a job or help me graduate school. However, they are supposed to pass laws and policies that benefit humanity. Nope. Nothing.

The federal govt was originally only supposed to protect the country from legit fraud and harm. Keep terrorists and foreign enemies at bay, protect us from cyber crime, control immigration, and protect our interests abroad through sound foreign policy.

The problem is that there is too much government and too many laws, and that federal politicians have too much power and control over our lives already.

They aren't supposed to drastically change our lives or help us beyond the protections they're supposed to provide - which they're screwing up more and more.
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2015, 03:05:26 PM »
Yes - she's a managing director for the world's top investment bank. Tells me she's very smart, ambitious, and makes lots of money.

And she actually earns it unlike the liberal politicians who live off the government dole making $170k a year but are millionairs. Lol

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2015, 03:14:57 PM »
one man because the republicans wouldn't work with him and tried to destroy him personally and politically

Bullshit - aside from a little political theater, he's been coddled by the media and the majority of the country, and the establishment Republican hacks have caved into him time and time again. Whether it's because they're afraid of him (like Menendez apparently should have been), afraid of being called racists by the media, or because they actually agree with him, they've been very accommodating - affirmative action at work.

Don't be fooled by political theater.

I do like Cruz, and I really got a thrill up my leg (shades of Chris Matthews) when he gave his speech a couple of weeks ago. He's cut from a different cloth. But I don't see him even getting the nomination, and I don't see Hillary losing - unless MAYBE someone with the balls to totally destroy and annihilate her and drag her through the mud gets the nomination.

Bush has already said he's "going to run a clean campaign" if he's nominated. A clean campaign is a losing campaign.

Just about everyone is afraid of the Clintons. Even the rich guys like Trump Weill and the powerful guys like Giuliani who aren't afraid of Obama's wrath do speak of her with deference and great care.
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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2015, 03:23:57 PM »
Did somebody say "pussy shots"???

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2015, 03:32:05 PM »
Bullshit - aside from a little political theater, he's been coddled by the media and the majority of the country, and the establishment Republican hacks have caved into him time and time again. Whether it's because they're afraid of him (like Menendez apparently should have been), afraid of being called racists by the media, or because they actually agree with him, they've been very accommodating - affirmative action at work.

Don't be fooled by political theater.

I do like Cruz, and I really got a thrill up my leg (shades of Chris Matthews) when he gave his speech a couple of weeks ago. He's cut from a different cloth. But I don't see him even getting the nomination, and I don't see Hillary losing - unless MAYBE someone with the balls to totally destroy and annihilate her and drag her through the mud gets the nomination.

Bush has already said he's "going to run a clean campaign" if he's nominated. A clean campaign is a losing campaign.

Just about everyone is afraid of the Clintons. Even the rich guys like Trump Weill and the powerful guys like Giuliani who aren't afraid of Obama's wrath do speak of her with deference and great care.

Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....Obama was delegitimized by conservatives....they told the American people he wasn't a citizen......which they KNEW was ridiculous....they even insinuated he was a muslim....he was called a liar ("you lie") during his speech on national TV by a Republican........Mitch McConnell stated when Obama was elected that it was his mission to make sure Obama was a one term president.....which means he had no intention whatsoever of working with him

However I do believe you are right about HILLARY....people are afraid of her.....and challenging her means you incur the wrath of the Clinton machine

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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2015, 03:38:25 PM »
Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....Obama was delegitimized by conservatives....they told the American people he wasn't a citizen......which they KNEW was ridiculous....they even insinuated he was a muslim....he was called a liar ("you lie") during his speech on national TV by a Republican........Mitch McConnell stated when Obama was elected that it was his mission to make sure Obama was a one term president.....which means he had no intention whatsoever of working with him

However I do believe you are right about HILLARY....people are afraid of her.....and challenging her means you incur the wrath of the Clinton machine

McConnell's a pussy who took away the nuclear filibuster that Dirty Harry so graciously used against him and handed him after the election.

If you're a liar, you deserve to be called a liar. Obama is a stinking liar, and he ain't the king - he works for us. We pay his salary.
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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2015, 05:33:27 PM »
no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich

At least the rich produce revenue and jobs.  :-\

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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2015, 07:56:57 PM »
Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....

Divisive candidates motivate the base to vote.  Romney and mccain weren't divisive, and they didn't win. 

Obama is VERY VERY divisive... the #1 voted liberal senator when he won in 2008.  The liberal BASE stood in line for hours to vote EARLY for him lol. 

The BASE wins elections - which is why I want to see Cruz vs Warren in the general election... let the lib base and conservative base be energized, and let AMERICANS choose the winner.  Right now, running a moderate - the party running the more divisive candidate will WIN.

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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2015, 07:58:45 PM »
At least the rich produce revenue and jobs.  :-\

so what?..that doesn't mean they deserve special treatment...small mom and pop businesses produce more jobs than the rich does

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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM »
Divisive candidates motivate the base to vote.  Romney and mccain weren't divisive, and they didn't win. 

Obama is VERY VERY divisive... the #1 voted liberal senator when he won in 2008.  The liberal BASE stood in line for hours to vote EARLY for him lol. 

The BASE wins elections - which is why I want to see Cruz vs Warren in the general election... let the lib base and conservative base be energized, and let AMERICANS choose the winner.  Right now, running a moderate - the party running the more divisive candidate will WIN.
Good points made but I disagree...divisive candidates may win PRIMARIES...but not the presidential vote.....and Romney was definitely divisive.....remember the 47%?.....Plus Romney moved too far right after being a liberal all his life....McCain lost because he undercut himself by criticizing Obama for being a rookie and then he himself picks a rookie in Palin...a DUMB rookie at that

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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2015, 08:10:15 PM »
Good points made but I disagree...divisive candidates may win PRIMARIES...but not the presidential vote.....and Romney was definitely divisive.....remember the 47%?.....Plus Romney moved too far right after being a liberal all his life....McCain lost because he undercut himself by criticizing Obama for being a rookie and then he himself picks a rookie in Palin...a DUMB rookie at that

look at elections in past 30 years...

Reagan?  conservative, and he dominated.
Bush1 was a conservative, and would have won twice without Perot mucking it up.
Clinton, with all his whoring around?  Very liberal, and won twice.
Bush2?  He was a religious alternative the base loved, won twice.
Obama is the #1 liberal senator, won twice.

Mccain, moderate.  Romney, moderate.  John Kerry, a chickenhawk dem (middle of road). 

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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2015, 08:15:08 PM »
Ted Cruz is totally unelectable. He won't get the Republican nomination.  He will not win a single state in the primaries.

Dreadful candidate.
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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2015, 08:21:33 PM »
look at elections in past 30 years...

Reagan?  conservative, and he dominated.
Bush1 was a conservative, and would have won twice without Perot mucking it up.
Clinton, with all his whoring around?  Very liberal, and won twice.
Bush2?  He was a religious alternative the base loved, won twice.
Obama is the #1 liberal senator, won twice.

Mccain, moderate.  Romney, moderate.  John Kerry, a chickenhawk dem (middle of road). 

I understand your reasoning here..good job....but I think its a little more complicated......you can argue that the two Bushes were not that conservative..they were quite reasonable in retrospect.....they didn't threaten social security or Medicaid..they weren't  trying to overturn abortion.....or limit the rights of gays and women.....they didn't try to shut down government....they were in no way die-hard fiscal conservatives.....and they both put blacks in very key positions

All Obama had to do was NOT SCARE WHITE PEOPLE...he had 95% of black vote, 80% of Asians, and 70% of Hispanics...he had young people, Wall street, the anti-war vote, and the gay vote too....

LOL@ "chickenhawk dem"

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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2015, 08:23:14 PM »
Ted Cruz is totally unelectable. He won't get the Republican nomination.  He will not win a single state in the primaries.

Dreadful candidate.

I imagine he'll win Texas.

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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2015, 08:42:01 PM »
no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich

Oh really? Tell me what charitable offerings the dems are willing to give away (not at the cost of the tax payers).

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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2015, 08:50:16 PM »
Oh really? Tell me what charitable offerings the dems are willing to give away (not at the cost of the tax payers).

I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers

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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2015, 08:57:33 PM »
I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers

True.  The caveat being what one makes of that "charity" is another thing entirely.  Skin color means nothing.  Character, everything.


And by the way, taxation with poor representation is the same or worse than without.  No one owes anyone a living.  Redistribution of earnings is socialist crap.  People, especially the poor and ignorant, desire equality but only with those they deem better off than they themselves are.


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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2015, 08:57:40 PM »
I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers

Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?

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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2015, 09:03:56 PM »
Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?

Well said.  What you give (if anything)  and to whom you give (or don't give) it should be up to you.  The government should have no right to take from those that work and give to those that don't. 

Welfare is indentured servitude.  Slavery for a vote.  And it knows no color. 

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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2015, 09:11:52 PM »
I imagine he'll win Texas.

 :) You make a valid point.
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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2015, 09:28:02 PM »
Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?
im sure israel appreciated it

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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2015, 09:31:04 PM »
im sure israel appreciated it

Good. I'm sure they do. Obama gives my money to the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism.

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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2015, 10:11:18 PM »
LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.

Goddammit.  He who is elected.  He is elected.  Not: Him is elected.  Who is?  He is.  He whom we elect.  We elected him.  Not: We elected he.  We elected whom?  Him.  Fuck.

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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2015, 10:28:39 PM »
Goddammit.  He who is elected.  He is elected.  Not: Him is elected.  Who is?  He is.  He whom we elect.  We elected him.  Not: We elected he.  We elected whom?  Him.  Fuck.

But yes.

Love this.

Do it in my head constantly, just never post.

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« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2015, 10:29:42 PM »
I'd really dig Cruz if he'd just dump all the bible/prayer shit.