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Re: 17 year old wont get out of car. Gets tasered and peppered spray
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2015, 07:18:24 AM »
I actually agree with the cops on this one. These thugs needed to go to jail. Smoking pot and driving is a very stupid

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« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2015, 07:18:48 AM »

Yep, but this video will help future idiots ;D



Chris Rock is spot on with that one!

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« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2015, 07:22:28 AM »
I generally dislike cops, but the cop did nothing out of the ordinary.  He shouldn't have tried to delete the video though.

Plus, they are white = no one cares.
yes but you know sometimes it seems like these guys have no common sense or maybe just donīt have patience . when you have a kid of 17 who looked soft trying to give weak resistance or saying he is 17 and wants a grown up there, which i find resonable.. then these guys should handle it a bit more maturely. Granted a 17 year old can pull a trigger too but i think they should asses the situation and then react accordingly...not just Rambo style straight away... just my 2 cents dudes...

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« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2015, 07:33:14 AM »
they got what they had coming ,all they had to do was get out of the car,how long do you think the cops should wait 1,3,5 hours.i would be embarrasses if that was my kid acting like that,the fact is my kid wouldn't act like that because he was brought up to respect the law

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Re: 17 year old wont get out of car. Gets tasered and peppered spray
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2015, 07:34:27 AM »
yes but you know sometimes it seems like these guys have no common sense or maybe just donīt have patience . when you have a kid of 17 who looked soft trying to give weak resistance or saying he is 17 and wants a grown up there, which i find resonable.. then these guys should handle it a bit more maturely. Granted a 17 year old can pull a trigger too but i think they should asses the situation and then react accordingly...not just Rambo style straight away... just my 2 cents dudes...

You assume they are intelligent enough to apply that kind of wisdom...
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« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2015, 07:43:43 AM »
they got what they had coming ,all they had to do was get out of the car,how long do you think the cops should wait 1,3,5 hours.i would be embarrasses if that was my kid acting like that,the fact is my kid wouldn't act like that because he was brought up to respect the law
Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i donīt see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some psychology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.

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« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2015, 07:50:42 AM »
You assume they are intelligent enough to apply that kind of wisdom...
I think they need to be trained better. I am not a dreamer but i think when dealing with people on a Daily Basis you need Psychology.

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« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2015, 07:54:02 AM »
Kid deserved it! Loved it how he cried he was wanted to call his mommy..obey the order to get out of the car you don't get pepper sprayed or tased

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« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2015, 07:56:41 AM »
Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i donīt see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some phycology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.

are you saying because he's 17 he doesn't know any better,if that's the case this country is going to shit.they were asked a number of times,I'm not buying because he's 17 he doesn't know any better

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« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2015, 07:57:16 AM »
Kid deserved it! Loved it how he cried he was wanted to call his mommy..obey the order to get out of the car you don't get pepper sprayed or tased
  ::) ok Big man

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« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2015, 08:01:44 AM »
Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i donīt see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some psychology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.

How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?

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« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2015, 08:03:52 AM »
I don't see the big deal here. This is what happens when some punk ass kid know it alls enter the real world. These dumb fucks were never taught any respect, thus they have to learn it the hard way.

I remember being 17,18 smoking weed with buddies or drinking cheap piss warm beer cruising around the neighborhood. Typical teenage behavior. We got pulled over once, and all of us collectively shit our pants. We all stepped out of the car scared as fuck, complied with every order from the cop and apologized profusely. Every answer was yes sir or no sir. ...magically we were all let go minus the beer.


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« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2015, 08:07:12 AM »
How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?

you just keep asking for how ever long it takes 5,6,8 hours :D

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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2015, 08:07:34 AM »
How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?
I would have stayed calm and called his Mother. If i could not get her then another person he trusts. Like i wrote common sense prevails. He was no Danger to the cops. To taser him twice was not needed..itīs like comply or get pain.. If the guy was a threat then sure i would have dragged him out no problem but you have to asses the situation and quickly. Why just react to every situation like rambo? you are dealing with people..

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« Reply #64 on: April 11, 2015, 08:10:00 AM »
you just keep asking for how ever long it takes 5,6,8 hours :D
how long does a phone call take? even the sound of his mothers voice would have put him at ease. Like i wrote before ...if he was a threat i would not hesitate to react.

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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2015, 08:10:15 AM »
I have to say, both the chick and the kid are punks.  I could tell straight away the chick was lying (have dealt with her type many times) and the kid was a straight up punk.  
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« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2015, 08:14:51 AM »
how long does a phone call take? even the sound of his mothers voice would have put him at ease. Like i wrote before ...if he was a threat i would not hesitate to react.

the fucking kid is 17 not 7  :D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2015, 08:16:56 AM »
I have to say, both the chick and the kid are punks.  I could tell straight away the chick was lying (have dealt with her type many times) and the kid was a straight up punk.  
well all i can say is i have been in situations searching people or cars and have from my experience learned that if you want co operation you have to tone it down. I have had a guy spit on me, abuse ..etc but i got on with my job. I know of guys who punched or beat up people for abuse. I have seen both sides. could write about all that but i canīt be bothered.

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« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2015, 08:20:54 AM »
This is why the war on drugs is highly immoral, fancy treating another human being like that because you think he smoked some pot.  What a fucked world we live in. 

Exactly.

I remember once being in a group of 20 youths out on some old wasteland.

We'd been for a couple of beers, driven over to this place and were passing spliffs around getting stoned.

The police came - walked up, had a chat. "What you doing here lads" - "just chatting after the pub" - "Really, not a bit cold for that".

Then the cop asking the questions turned to the other one and said "they are just having a spliff on us....".

Us all being 18-19 shat ourselves at that but the cops just said "have a good night lads" and they left.

We were doing no harm. Course this was in the UK, where 2 cops without guns had the balls to walk up to 20 youths on some remote wasteland and shoot the breeze.

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« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2015, 08:21:30 AM »
I would have stayed calm and called his Mother. If i could not get her then another person he trusts. Like i wrote common sense prevails. He was no Danger to the cops. To taser him twice was not needed..itīs like comply or get pain.. If the guy was a threat then sure i would have dragged him out no problem but you have to asses the situation and quickly. Why just react to every situation like rambo? you are dealing with people..

What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?

Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?

What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?

You sound really naive.

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« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2015, 08:24:12 AM »
What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?

Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?

What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?

You sound really naive.

agree 100%

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« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2015, 08:24:50 AM »
Exactly.

I remember once being in a group of 20 youths out on some old wasteland.

We'd been for a couple of beers, driven over to this place and were passing spliffs around getting stoned.

The police came - walked up, had a chat. "What you doing here lads" - "just chatting after the pub" - "Really, not a bit cold for that".

Then the cop asking the questions turned to the other one and said "they are just having a spliff on us....".

Us all being 18-19 shat ourselves at that but the cops just said "have a good night lads" and they left.

We were doing no harm. Course this was in the UK, where 2 cops without guns had the balls to walk up to 20 youths on some remote wasteland and shoot the breeze.
yes.. sensible Guys. Had this too when i was 15 Drinking and stuff. Police just told us.. and i quote.. Just donīt be Kunts lads no trouble. left us to it.

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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2015, 08:25:26 AM »
Didn't watch the video because of the idiot who put it up.  If a cop pulls you over cooperate and hand over your driving credentials when he asks. If you don't when you have them on you then you can be charged with your state's version of hindering apprehension or obstructing. Then you are subject to arrest. Resisting arrest isn't only an assault it's also refusing to get out of a car to let the cop arrest you. Resisting arrest isn't just fighting a cop it's also arguing with a cop waving your hands around to make it difficult for him to put handcuffs on you.

Here's a few ways a traffic stop can go. A cop pulls you over and warns you about the traffic infraction and lets you go without a ticket. He gives you a traffic ticket for the moving violation that if found guilty could affect your insurance rates and records on your driving record. If you're polite with a clean record he might give you a non driving record ticket like a seatbelt or a cracked windshield instead of the moving violation to keep your driving record clean. Then again you can act like a dick and refuse all requests for paper work and bust the cops balls like a immature high school kid. Then your are arrested for hindering apprehension, resisting arrest, and every legal ticket he can figure out to give you. If he is a knowledgeable cop it could be a lot of tickets.  

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« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2015, 08:28:39 AM »
What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?

Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?

What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?

You sound really naive.
A phone call is not 2-3 hours. Of course you canīt wait that time. The whole point which you donīt grasp is the aggressive mannerism was not needed or do you think your 17 year old kid should get this treatment? Naive? no just more experience than you.

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« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2015, 08:28:46 AM »
I think there might have been 2 girls in that car :D