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How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« on: April 15, 2015, 03:24:58 PM »
For me it's easier to just starve than eat unlimited meats and low carb foods for weight loss.

Wonder if this is true for others  ???
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015, 03:26:13 PM »
I've noticed if I skip breakfast I don't get really hungry, but the moment I eat something my hunger goes into overdrive and I just want to keep eating
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2015, 03:29:08 PM »
Quote from: calfzilla on April 15, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
For me it's easier to just starve than eat unlimited meats and low carb foods for weight loss.

Wonder if this is true for others  ???

Simple when you eat your metabolism sparks up. When you don't it slows down. Same reason people eat 6 times a day and have refeeds to keep metab going
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015, 03:50:09 PM »
refeed, excuse to cheat ::)
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 03:53:03 PM »
Fasting is for hippies & crossfit hipsters
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2015, 04:06:55 PM »
I will never fast, though there are weeks where I cut out meat completely.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 04:53:53 PM »
Quote from: epic_alien on April 15, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
refeed, excuse to cheat ::)

No not really when your dieting your metabolism can stall. I can tell you first hand after a refeed or chest how hungry I get the next few days.. You cant just keep dieting constantly on low cals with out some sort of caloric pump to get your metabolism going again. This is a common practice
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 05:00:11 PM »
Quote from: epic_alien on April 15, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
refeed, excuse to cheat ::)

Read Lyle McDonald's Optimum diet 2.0, and say that again..
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 06:36:01 PM »
Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 15, 2015, 03:29:08 PM
Same reason people eat 6 times a day
Not true and been shown over and over again thru various studies. Eating six meals has no more of an effect then 3....
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 09:31:52 PM »
Find the same thing to be true, would rather starve all day and eat a decent meal at night rather than eat small meals all day which just make you hungrier.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 09:34:14 PM »
Eat enough fat on a keto diet and this isn't true
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2015, 09:36:50 PM »
Quote from: mazrim on April 15, 2015, 06:36:01 PM
Not true and been shown over and over again thru various studies. Eating six meals has no more of an effect then 3....

Well, I gave that a try and just did not work out for me. Pretty sure there's a reason why it's six or more meals for optimal results...

You don't look as good when you have huge ass meals to get your daily cals in, will look bloated, feel crappy/sleepy and need to go shit hardcore.
5-6k in 3 meals, as good as in 6 or more?

Not a chance.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2015, 09:43:43 PM »
Quote from: ritch on April 15, 2015, 09:36:50 PM
Well, I gave that a try and just did not work out for me. Pretty sure there's a reason why it's six or more meals for optimal results...

You don't look as good when you have huge ass meals to get your daily cals in, will look bloated, feel crappy/sleepy and need to go shit hardcore.
5-6k in 3 meals, as good as in 6 or more?

Not a chance.

Ritch you and I both no the answer to this.  It's been prove time again the benefits of eats 6 times a day. Studies out the ass..
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 09:55:32 PM »
Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 15, 2015, 09:43:43 PM
Ritch you and I both no the answer to this.  It's been prove time again the benefits of eats 6 times a day. Studies out the ass..

LOL! So true...
What I can't believe is I let the stupid information get to my head to actually try it, lol! Along with the IFFYM bullshit! (hangs head in shame....)
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2015, 10:11:19 PM »
Quote from: ritch on April 15, 2015, 09:55:32 PM
LOL! So true...
What I can't believe is I let the stupid information get to my head to actually try it, lol! Along with the IFFYM bullshit! (hangs head in shame....)

Lol this is how I use IIFMY.  I match clean Marco for macros. A cup of oats or whole wheat pancakes for the same carb count.   Rice or potatoes ect.. If I eat Wendy's im don't going to fit a baconator in my fucking macros I'm just going to eat it
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2015, 10:20:14 PM »
Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 15, 2015, 10:11:19 PM
Lol this is how I use IIFMY.  I match clean Marco for macros. A cup of oats or whole wheat pancakes for the same carb count.   Rice or potatoes ect.. If I eat Wendy's im don't going to fit a baconator in my fucking macros I'm just going to eat it

In the end, high cal, like 5k plus almost has to have some junk. Actually, bacon would kill my macro's as it leaves me full for too long which means I won't wanna eat for like 6 hours after.

Some guys have posted up pics of some big and jacked guys using IIFYM, I keep an open mind in that case, but would not pass that as good information. Especially if the person is just starting out.

Kinda be like showing a cheat curl before a proper curl. We all know how to do a cheat curl by instinct I think and that is a bit how I see IIFYM. Taking an easier way out of doing what you know you really should be. It's justified by some results but think they would do better if done otherwise.

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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2015, 10:28:13 PM »
Quote from: ritch on April 15, 2015, 10:20:14 PM
In the end, high cal, like 5k plus almost has to have some junk. Actually, bacon would kill my macro's as it leaves me full for too long which means I won't wanna eat for like 6 hours after.

Some guys have posted up pics of some big and jacked guys using IIFYM, I keep an open mind in that case, but would not pass that as good information. Especially if the person is just starting out.

Kinda be like showing a cheat curl before a proper curl. We all know how to do a cheat curl by instinct I think and that is a bit how I see IIFYM. Taking an easier way out of doing what you know you really should be. It's justified by some results but think they would do better if done otherwise.



Yep I agree 100%. It's just catches on so well because of this now generation. They just want to find the easiest way out every time.  I hate of fitness has become so trendy...
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2015, 10:46:42 PM »
I only do two meals a day. But I'm just maintaining my 195-200 lb @6' swimmer build. I tried up to 8 meals a day at one point and noticed no difference personally. And I don't eat that clean either. With my life style eating 2 meals a day and fasting work for me. To a beginner it wouldn't work well. I'm not a body builder anyway. I lift high while fasted to relieve some stress then go eat a decent size protein meal. I do 1-2 cc cycles.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2015, 10:49:36 PM »
Quote from: swanzi85 on April 15, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
I only do two meals a day. But I'm just maintaining my 195-200 lb @6' swimmer build. I tried up to 8 meals a day at one point and noticed no difference personally. And I don't eat that clean either. With my life style eating 2 meals a day and fasting work for me. To a beginner it wouldn't work well. I'm not a body builder anyway. I lift high while fasted to relieve some stress then go eat a decent size protein meal. I do 1-2 cc cycles.

Fantatic build man
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2015, 10:56:13 PM »
Quote from: Navy _Mike on April 15, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
Fantatic build man

Appreciate it. I respect guys like you and their dedication. I just don't have that same passion. Working out is a release and I free style it. I'm cool with being the twink with abs at the beach 8). Lifting high is awesome. I just use baby cycles to add pop and I thank getbig for opening my eyes. No more 240 lb permabulker here
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2015, 10:57:57 PM »
Navy Mike and ritch riding the broscience bandwaggon side by side.

6 meals a day FFS  ::)
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2015, 11:20:45 PM »
Quote from: swanzi85 on April 15, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
I only do two meals a day. But I'm just maintaining my 195-200 lb @6' swimmer build. I tried up to 8 meals a day at one point and noticed no difference personally. And I don't eat that clean either. With my life style eating 2 meals a day and fasting work for me. To a beginner it wouldn't work well. I'm not a body builder anyway. I lift high while fasted to relieve some stress then go eat a decent size protein meal. I do 1-2 cc cycles.

good pic man! As you said, not sure it can be built up with 2 meals, but think it can be maintained. No idea how you do so long without eating and I'm not a big eater by any means.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2015, 11:22:44 PM »
Quote from: Navy_Mike on April 15, 2015, 10:28:13 PM
Yep I agree 100%. It's just catches on so well because of this now generation. They just want to find the easiest way out every time.  I hate of fitness has become so trendy...

Yup and today's kids but the "tren" in trendy, lol...
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2015, 11:23:08 PM »
Quote from: Be There on April 15, 2015, 10:57:57 PM
Navy Mike and ritch riding the broscience bandwaggon side by side.

6 meals a day FFS  ::)

Agreed. 2 is the sweet spot for me.
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Re: How come it's easier to fast than eat very low carb?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2015, 02:46:41 AM »
Quote from: swanzi85 on April 15, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
I only do two meals a day. But I'm just maintaining my 195-200 lb @6' swimmer build. I tried up to 8 meals a day at one point and noticed no difference personally. And I don't eat that clean either. With my life style eating 2 meals a day and fasting work for me. To a beginner it wouldn't work well. I'm not a body builder anyway. I lift high while fasted to relieve some stress then go eat a decent size protein meal. I do 1-2 cc cycles.

Haha Swimmer my ass! U may not be a "bodybuilder" but you look better than 99.9% of them bloated stupid ugly wannabe bodybuilding guys thinking calories build muscle and then walk around ugly all year round. Middle way is the best way. Its all about aestetichs! Some people just cant understand it! Greedy is a bitch. It ill make your ship sink!


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