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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 06:21:40 PM »
Great read

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3046350/Why-men-refuse-marry-Women-complain-chaps-toSorry-ladies-s-fault-argues-wickedly-provocative-new-book-Denigration-Men-PETER-LLOYD.html
I am in my 40's and I refused to get married, had a few long term de-factos and am now happily, VERY HAPPILY single and have no plans of entering into another relationship.  All my friends my age that are married are miserable as hell, they are walking shells of men who are browbeaten cuckold's being dictated to by the women in their lives.  It's pathetic and sad to witness. 
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 06:23:28 PM »
‘Ultimately, men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,’ says Dr Helen Smith, a lecturer at the University of Tennessee and author of Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood And The American Dream.



Spot on. Get divorced, you pay child support, alimony, half your pension can go to your wife, lose your kids (they always live with the mom unless she is too unstable).

Ill pass.
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 06:25:37 PM »
My view is personal growth stops the second you get married, apart from all the other bad shit in the article that goes with it.


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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 06:30:02 PM »
Perfectly said.

American social commentator Suzanne Venker agrees. The problem with divorce settlements, she says, is women want to have their cake and eat it.

‘We messed with the old marriage structure and now it’s broken,’ she says. ‘Back in the old days, stay-at-home mothers got a financial reward because child-rearing doesn’t pay cash.

‘Now we want total independence from men, but if we divorce — even without having children — we expect to get alimony for ever. We can’t have it both ways.’

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 06:44:23 PM »
Excellent.  47yrs old never been married, never will be.  I have an incredible 12yr old son that no woman will ever be more important than...EVER!!!
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 06:47:20 PM »
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/family-courts/i-am-chris-mackney-and-i-have-something-to-say-from-the-grave/

 Just one of many. MGTOW for life.

I was MGTOW waaaaaay before the acronym was coined.

Like I have been saying for years, marriage is a LEGAL and FINACIALLY binding contract.  It has NOTHING to do with love.

You have to be out of your fucking mind to get married... gay or straight.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 06:54:06 PM »
Marriage has simply been made obsolete.  There's always will be another chick.
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 06:57:21 PM »
I was MGTOW waaaaaay before the acronym was coined.

 Ditto. For me, since 1992 - when I was 13. It wasn't helped by my suspicions that the young ladies wouldn't "grow out of it", like many people said they would. Twenty years later, I feel like I've been proven right.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 07:38:45 PM »
I actually hate to say it (being a romantic at heart), but marriage for the modern man is a GIGANTIC risk. The state of social affairs has rendered the legal union mostly suicide for a dude.

Be in a relationship but DO NOT GET MARRIED.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2015, 07:46:01 PM »
Moral of the story: Get an ironclad prenuptial agreement.
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2015, 07:51:12 PM »
Moral of the story: Get an ironclad prenuptial agreement.

Exactly. If you MUST marry the girl, make certain you have a TIGHT pre-marital contract scripted by a hotshit lawyer.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2015, 07:52:16 PM »
The government has destroyed the family and marriage.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2015, 07:54:29 PM »
This was done purposely. I for one won't fall for it and still believe in marriage....between a biological male and biological female.
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2015, 07:54:59 PM »
The manner in which marriage was originally instituted was fine... I suppose, but that was way before my time.


Today? No way!


Never again. Still friends with the EX... always will be. Had two kids, got two grandkids... it's all good. We never fought, we never went to court, kids always came first.


We went our separate ways. I stayed until the kids were old enough to take care of themselves.


As far as entering into another relationship, as in "marriage?" Never. I can't forsee the future, but that seems to be one thing that is as solid as stone in my mind.


I keep all relationships with women right where I want them. As soon as she starts acting out... it's over. I'm not in "deep enough" (no pun intended, [joke on me]) to have any obligations whatsoever, and that is made clear right up front.


Been there, did that. I wouldn't tell a young man to never get married. I would throw out a few warnings in regards to the "choosing" process, but I would really be biased towards "no"... without saying so.


Some people... very few.. have great relationships. There lives seem to be two in one. Not me. I'm not wired that way.


I like the Lone Wolf.


When I see a couple arguing and bickering, which is often, I am so glad I am not answering to anyone.


It's funny though, if women were to chime in on this topic... it would become so heated. And that, in itself would prove my case against marriage.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2015, 07:58:14 PM »
Exactly. If you MUST marry the girl, make certain you have a TIGHT pre-marital contract scripted by a hotshit lawyer.

But that's the problem. Many women would run for the hills and not marry the guy if he mentions a prenuptial agreement.
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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2015, 03:37:41 AM »
My view is personal growth stops the second you get married, apart from all the other bad shit in the article that goes with it.

It may not stop, but it usualy gets very difficult. That's why anyone who hasn't managed to become reasonably rich BEFORE marrying - is in for some frustrations down the road. Money, as usualy, can at least soften the fall if anything goes wrong. Funny thing is - ppl think they will "be happy" when they marry, when in truth - they could have a chance of being happy if they acquire wealth (and then do whatever the hell they want), but marriage is usualy a way to halt ones progress in many fields, carreer is one of them obviously.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2015, 03:45:47 AM »
The manner in which marriage was originally instituted was fine... I suppose, but that was way before my time.


Today? No way!


Never again. Still friends with the EX... always will be. Had two kids, got two grandkids... it's all good. We never fought, we never went to court, kids always came first.


We went our separate ways. I stayed until the kids were old enough to take care of themselves.


As far as entering into another relationship, as in "marriage?" Never. I can't forsee the future, but that seems to be one thing that is as solid as stone in my mind.


I keep all relationships with women right where I want them. As soon as she starts acting out... it's over. I'm not in "deep enough" (no pun intended, [joke on me]) to have any obligations whatsoever, and that is made clear right up front.


Been there, did that. I wouldn't tell a young man to never get married. I would throw out a few warnings in regards to the "choosing" process, but I would really be biased towards "no"... without saying so.


Some people... very few.. have great relationships. There lives seem to be two in one. Not me. I'm not wired that way.


I like the Lone Wolf.


When I see a couple arguing and bickering, which is often, I am so glad I am not answering to anyone.


It's funny though, if women were to chime in on this topic... it would become so heated. And that, in itself would prove my case against marriage.


Great post. What would be these "warnings" BTW?

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2015, 04:27:40 AM »
Excellent.  47yrs old never been married, never will be.  I have an incredible 12yr old son that no woman will ever be more important than...EVER!!!

I agree with you in regards to kids.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2015, 06:36:32 AM »
Exactly. If you MUST marry the girl, make certain you have a TIGHT pre-marital contract scripted by a hotshit lawyer.

Better off NOT getting married at all.  Many crafty divorce lawyers are able to circumvent pre-nup agreements, partially or totally.  It's not worth taking that chance.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2015, 07:36:39 AM »
Love being married.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2015, 07:39:04 AM »
Love being married.

As do I, but I would be very conflicted recommending marriage to anybody these days. I think that I got very lucky with my wife.

Society is very much NOT in favor of the man in any marriage question.

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2015, 07:47:07 AM »
Better off NOT getting married at all.  Many crafty divorce lawyers are able to circumvent pre-nup agreements, partially or totally.  It's not worth taking that chance.
and many female judges just throw it out. Only a crazy man gets married anymore. Its a coin toss, happiness or destruction, 50/50 chance.... how about them odds  ;D

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Re: great article on men waking up to the scam of marriage
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2015, 08:03:48 AM »

Great post. What would be these "warnings" BTW?

I'd sincerely like to hear this as well.