Baltimore Riots - Discussion

[Agnostic007]

THIS is what they did in Ferguson - Police INTENTIONALLY gave the rioters one day to make a MAJOR mess - and on purpose - in order to garner public support.  They moved very slow on purpose, and they LET a small group of idiots do anything they wanted.   instead, they spent the night complaining about 15 injured cops and they LET the bad guys do it. 

THE MAYOR ADMITTED IT::::>

What no one expected is what Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake admitted in a press conference on Sunday: that she asked the Baltimore Police Department to “give those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

http://fusion.net/story/126587/the-odd-tactic-of-giving-baltimore-protesters-space-to-destroy-property/

She slipped up by revealing it, but this is EXACTLY the strategy used in Ferguson, and I fcking called it then - they're playing the public relations game, letting a small group of idiots have the spotlight to be bad without even trying to stop them, for a day.  Those cops moved purposely slow, they surrendered "hamsterdam", a small % of baltimore, to let the bad guys do anything.  It's a political strategy, and it's not new.  And now the mayor ADMITS it.

You also called the cop planting the taser so your record isn't so hot.

What she did was use very poor wording to describe their strategy. When you step outside your moms house into the real world, there are consequences and unintended consequences for almost every action. Having experience in dealing with potentially violent crowds, there is always a Ying and Yang of police response. Too hard (Ferguson) and it flames the anger, too soft (Rodney King LA riots) and it can gain momentum. The answer is a mixture, what that specific mixture is, is often an unknown variable. IN this case, apparently they planned on letting the crowd blow off steam hoping it would burn out quickly. In any riot it is basically trying to control chaos. Police are usually ALWAYS outnumbered, and outnumbered in a big way. You can't just shoot rioters and they know this so you are very limited on your actual ability to stop a rioting crowd. There is a psychology that plays into it.. police often appear in riot gear as it has a psychological effect. They move in unison for the same reason. If the crowd ever figured out they could overrun the cops, then there is no hope of containment. Your comment about the fire trucks not responding is a good indicator you are not well informed or educated on emergency response and the hurdles a riot can create for responding units.

So she screwed the pooch announcing what she did. It was likely a strategy developed in preliminary talks. If this happens, we will do this.. and if that happens we will likely do that.. but to announce giving a space for property destruction is about as stupid as it gets.. unless you think the police purposesly wanted to let them destroy the city, then I think you've trumped her       

[Agnostic007]

THIS.  There is nothing at all controlled about a fat cop hurling a rock back into a crowd lol.



Video of several cops throwing rocks and bricks into a crowd.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/27/police-throw-rocks-baltimore_n_7156614.html

Watching the video of the crowd throwing rocks at the cops.. The citizen in my thinks "If you think it's ok to hurl bricks and rocks at cops, it should be ok for them to shoot at you when you do it. At the very least, throw the same objects back at you." Then the cop in my says " Yeah.. can't throw rocks.."  But I do wonder why they weren't deploying less lethal bean bags or rubber bullets or pepper spray down range when the  the crowd was approaching throwing rocks.. maybe they don't have those options 

[Nails]

NFL hall of famer and super bowl MVP Ray Lewis , with anger in his voice , fist pounding in his hands, breakin it down for the little brothas ,  

Ok, RayRay



https://www.facebook.com/officialraylewis/videos/10153320592515701/?fref=nf

[240 is Back]

So she screwed the pooch announcing what she did. It was likely a strategy developed in preliminary talks. If this happens, we will do this.. and if that happens we will likely do that.. but to announce giving a space for property destruction is about as stupid as it gets.. unless you think the police purposesly wanted to let them destroy the city, then I think you've trumped her      

It's funny... in the HBO series "the wire", the cops created a small section of Baltimore in which they allowed drug use and crime to take place, as long as it didn't spill over into other areas of the city:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamsterdam

This mayor has pulled a "Bunny" and announced an area where people can do their destruction.  

[Svengoolie]

Why wont he go out into the crowds and relay that message if he's so passionate about it?

[dr.chimps]

Watching the video of the crowd throwing rocks at the cops.. The citizen in my thinks "If you think it's ok to hurl bricks and rocks at cops, it should be ok for them to shoot at you when you do it. At the very least, throw the same objects back at you." Then the cop in my says " Yeah.. can't throw rocks.."  But I do wonder why they weren't deploying less lethal bean bags or rubber bullets or pepper spray down range when the  the crowd was approaching throwing rocks.. maybe they don't have those options 

Pretty sure you're the guy taking the orders, not giving them; your armchair posts, aside.

[Nails]

Why wont he go out into the crowds and relay that message if he's so passionate about it?

RayRay having a serious Meltdown LOL 

[Option D]

No better way to prove that black are wrongfully labeled as uneducated and violent people then to go out mass roiting and stealing to prove your point. I'm sure this will help to their case

http://mic.com/articles/116702/10-images-of-the-baltimore-riots-you-won-t-be-seeing-on-tv

thats like taking a small portion of whites that rioted after kentucky lost and label a whole race..

bro get your head out f your fucking ass.

[falco]

NFL hall of famer and super bowl MVP Ray Lewis , with anger in his voice , fist pounding in his hands, breakin it down for the little brothas ,  

Ok, RayRay



https://www.facebook.com/officialraylewis/videos/10153320592515701/?fref=nf

[Option D]

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I'm just gonna stand here and water my kerosene cans....

[Option D]

What happens when cities and states are ran by liberals.

or maybe when cops murder a man.

[dr.chimps]

How dare you post up such photoshops.

d) Let's fight

[Agnostic007]

or maybe when cops murder a man.

And you know he was murdered how? 

[El Diablo Blanco]

Omar is coming, Omar is coming.....

[The True Adonis]

What happens when cities and states are ran by liberals.

Wrong word used at the end.

[BB]

It shouldn't need to be cleaned up. It shouldn't have happened in the first place. At the end of the day, certain folks have to admit that they are their own worst enemy. And sure, you can pull up the occasional white riot, but those are exception to the rule, both in occurrence, and volume. And whitey does take them to task for it. No passing the buck on to "the man" or "they're just kids", etc....

[Nails]

How pist must Betty be that his BIG interview only lasted a couple of hours in the news

[CT_Muscle]

or maybe when cops murder a man.

Mayor, Police Chief, and majority of police force are african americans.......so what happened here?  

Can't be whitey's fault this time can it?

[Option D]

And you know he was murdered how? 

I mean seriously...what the fuck are we talking about over here?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/24/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death/
Freddie Gray did not get timely medical care after he was arrested and was not buckled into a seat belt while being transported in a police van, Baltimore police said Friday.

Police Commissioner Anthony Batts told reporters there are no excuses for the fact that Gray was not buckled in as he was transported to a police station.

[Option D]

Mayor, Police Chief, and majority of police force are african americans.......so what happened here?  

Can't be whitey's fault this time can it?

yeah... so if you read what i wrote... it says "cops"... nothing about race... but go ahead and muddy it up.

[Option D]

It shouldn't need to be cleaned up. It shouldn't have happened in the first place. At the end of the day, certain folks have to admit that they are their own worst enemy. And sure, you can pull up the occasional white riot, but those are exception to the rule, both in occurrence, and volume. And whitey does take them to task for it. No passing the buck on to "the man" or "they're just kids", etc....

lol.. yeah that's a lot of horse shit

certain folks condemn 1 riot and ignore another riot, solely based on skin color.

[pedro01]

Why do people have a problem with cops throwing rocks back at rioters?

Seems fair enough to me.

[Agnostic007]

I mean seriously...what the fuck are we talking about over here?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/24/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death/
Freddie Gray did not get timely medical care after he was arrested and was not buckled into a seat belt while being transported in a police van, Baltimore police said Friday.

Police Commissioner Anthony Batts told reporters there are no excuses for the fact that Gray was not buckled in as he was transported to a police station.

Everything you posted here is accurate. But doesnt indicate murder

[BB]

lol.. yeah that's a lot of horse shit

certain folks condemn 1 riot and ignore another riot, solely based on skin color.

Oh come on, if you guys had a riot every couple of years, then we could compare.

But you guys had Freaknik back in the day, Wildwood NJ every summer, Black Bike Week, various concert riots, etc.... and those are just the "fun riots". Let's not count the actual race ones, or the little mini riots in waffle houses, McDonalds's, Chuckie Cheeses, etc.... all the time cause someone got their Foamposites stepped on.

Heck they even burned down Sal's Pizza after Radio Raheem couldn't behave.

[TheGrinch]

why is a city going crazy for this "gentle giant"?

FREDDY GRAY’S ARREST RECORD: Here’s The Rap Sheet Of The Dude They’re Destroying Baltimore Over

April 27, 2015


Gray had a lengthy arrest record with convictions dating back until at least 2007, according to the Maryland Department of Justice. Not all of the arrests led to convictions, in many of the cases he pleaded guilty to one charge while the others were dropped. Details of when he spent time in prison were not immediately available. His arrest record includes at least 18 arrests:

    •March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
    •March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
    •January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
    •January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
    •December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
    •December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    •August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
    •January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
    •September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
    •April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
    •July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
    •March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    •March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
    •February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    •August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
    •August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
    •August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    •July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)