Baltimore Riots - Discussion

[The Ugly]

I don't think the gangs deny their violence; but the fact that for once in their lives they see what their community has become and is doing isn't good should be encouraging.  These gangs have spent their whole existence fighting local government and leaders but now they realize that they're not only willing to work with them but also their rivals.

Isn't this like blaming the criminal for dying in police custody?  

Aren't these fellas a big reason the place is already such a shithole? Not sure what we're talking about here. Once this shit blows over they go back to gangbanging, no?

[Dave D]

Aren't these fellas a big reason the place is already such a shithole? Not sure what we're talking about here. Once this shit blows over they go back to gangbanging, no?

I'm sure you're right and it will go back to being a cess pool, however the gangs always take credit for their violence on their own race. They don't deny the black on black crimes, that's mostly a media issue refusing to address the topic. Even in the coverage the media is tap dancing around what's taking place, online (here at getbig) people are being honest.

My point was this isn't taking place because the gangbangers are out of control,  these guys, of all people, are saying the situation is out of control.  These guys are the last ones to join up with civic leaders.

I wasn't attacking you nor defending the gangs per se, I was just pointing out the how bizarre the whole situation has become.

With as many on here that complain how America has become a police state, we see what happens when unorganized civil unrest occurs.

[polychronopolous]

Aren't these fellas a big reason the place is already such a shithole? Not sure what we're talking about here. Once this shit blows over they go back to gangbanging, no?

They've got Geraldo out in the streets tonight.  

[Carlton G. Long]

lol no. i meant has it ever happened at a pro level

a few professional soccer matches in Europe have had to be played in empty stadia in the past

[TheGrinch]

funny how everyone thinks cops act this way because someone is black..LOL

try mouthing off to a cop, resisting arrest and being a total dick to ANY cop when you are ANY race, religion, color, nationality, etc.

you are GOING to get your ass handed to you.


comply and fight it out in the court system. you have NO legal right to refuse detainment.


fark me.. its not a race thing here

[Teutonic Knight]

Little yellow fucker is laughing at " mighty"  America  

[tommywishbone]

There's a meeting at some Baltimore civic hall right now- Evidently there are "500+ pastors & reverends ready to take to the streets to insure peace".

Where the fuck do you find 500+ pastors & reverends?

Go Colts!

[BB]

Not putting much stock in this right now, but if true, makes things much more interesting -

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/28/did-freddie-gray-have-spinal-surgery-from-car-accident-a-week-before-his-arrest/ .

[thelamefalsehood]

Not putting much stock in this right now, but if true, makes things much more interesting -

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/28/did-freddie-gray-have-spinal-surgery-from-car-accident-a-week-before-his-arrest/ .

This is what I've been wondering as well. I had a severe spinal compression in the neck that was fused. The Dr. told me prior to surgery that any type of whiplash or head injury/snap could cause my spinal cord to be torn in half.  At which point I would be paralyzed from the neck down.

To snap your spinal cord would take a massive amount of impact. Think football kick return at full speed, head to head type collision. I bet this guy had something going on in his neck and was a freaky type accident.

[Thin Lizzy]

I don't think the gangs deny their violence; but the fact that for once in their lives they see what their community has become and is doing isn't good should be encouraging.  These gangs have spent their whole existence fighting local government and leaders but now they realize that they're not only willing to work with them but also their rivals.

Isn't this like blaming the criminal for dying in police custody?  

Work with them at what?

What are the useful goods and services that these gangs produce that benefit the community?

[Irongrip400]

Not putting much stock in this right now, but if true, makes things much more interesting -

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/28/did-freddie-gray-have-spinal-surgery-from-car-accident-a-week-before-his-arrest/ .

Wow. Crazy if true.

[Dave D]

Work with them at what?

What are the useful goods and services that these gangs produce that benefit the community?

I didn't say they provide any useful community benefits.  The article said local gangs are joining together with community leaders to stand against the riots. A gangs very premise is based on controlling territory with violence. 

My point was if these groups, which are known for using violence and murder to establish control and promote anarchy, are willing to set aside their hatred for one another and government to work together to encourage the community to stop the violence taking place, that's pretty shocking.

I know it's hard to follow.

[polychronopolous]

I didn't say they provide any useful community benefits.  The article said local gangs are joining together with community leaders to stand against the riots. A gangs very premise is based on controlling territory with violence. 

My point was if these groups, which are known for using violence and murder to establish control and promote anarchy, are willing to set aside their hatred for one another and government to work together to encourage the community to stop the violence taking place, that's pretty shocking.

I know it's hard to follow.

Maybe just build a makeshift stage and have some rappers give a free concert to keep them distracted.

[Thick Nick]

TA, yes these are gang members. And yes, they may have criminal records. But, if out of the ashes of all this, these young men could grow into leaders that can help rebuild and repair Baltimore reputation. It's it the direction in which they want to go. Necessity can make for strange bedfellows. To say that they don't have ulterior motive would be naive. But, for right now..lets play a wait and see, before you issue the requisite "I told you so".

Question... who kills more black youths... White cops or black gang members? The above response is one of the most comical in Getbig history. The gang member heroes that you think will be some great leader some day don't give a shit about the guy who died with the broke back or Mike Brown... or the death of any black youth BECUASE THEY ARE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE for most of the deaths... they care about free shit... PERIOD. And you racist morons are legitimizing them. You dumb shits.

[240 is Back]

The tampa bay bucs play in front of empty stadiums all the tim, no biggie there.

I saw a breakdancnig protester.  wow, total scary stuff there.   every idiot with a cajon drum and a hackey sack now has a national platform to practice their slackery.

[Dave D]

Maybe just build a makeshift stage and have some rappers give a free concert to keep them distracted.

Lol, turn it into a block party.

Best idea yet.

[240 is Back]

Lol, turn it into a block party.

Best idea yet.

you know how they can get rid of the "rioters"?

Put out a DJ and just blast the shit out of some Weird Al Yankovic.  I mean, just crank it.  "Christmas at Ground Zero", "Eat it", "Because I'm Fat..."

Shit will be so wack, the teenagers will go home.  Being serious here, that would work. 

[polychronopolous]

you know how they can get rid of the "rioters"?

Put out a DJ and just blast the shit out of some Weird Al Yankovic.  I mean, just crank it.  "Christmas at Ground Zero", "Eat it", "Because I'm Fat..."

Shit will be so wack, the teenagers will go home.  Being serious here, that would work. 

haha yeah it probably would

[Voice of Doom]

Sigh...the cops are wrong and the looters are wrong.  End of thread.

[240 is Back]

Sigh...the cops are wrong and the looters are wrong.  End of thread.

while technically true, I'm afraid american culture requires one to 100% support ONE of the parties involved.  Remember how so many republicans adopted Zimmerman as the wife-beating, obama-voting uncle they never had after wasting someone whose pigment they didn't like?  Same thing here.   

Impossible to say the cops are abusive shitbags AND the looters need a nice firehosing.  We are programmed to kneepad one of the parties and hate the other.

[Slapper]

Of course not.  That type of behavior is acceptable in their culture.  

You mean like you being responsible for the decimation of the Native American population? Or the slaughter of thousands of innocent human beings in Vietnam or Hiroshima/Nagasaki?

I'm white and I can tell you that killing is NOT acceptable in my culture. Even if whites often carry out acts of mass slaughter a thousand times worse than any nígga can conceive. In his dreams. Even while playing Halo and smoking a shitload of weed.

[Dave D]

Question... who kills more black youths... White cops or black gang members? The above response is one of the most comical in Getbig history. The gang member heroes that you think will be some great leader some day don't give a shit about the guy who died with the broke back or Mike Brown... or the death of any black youth BECUASE THEY ARE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE for most of the deaths... they care about free shit... PERIOD. And you racist morons are legitimizing them. You dumb shits.

Brah nobody is "praising" gang members.  Youre right that the gangs kill more black youths then anyone. These gangs aren't like movies and rap videos run by grown men, it's predominantly teenage boys and sometimes men in their early 20s.

What's being said is that apparently the situation is bad enough that groups that are dedicated to violence are willing to say enough is enough.  That should speak loudly to the community however it appears it won't because people here can't even grasp what the statement is that's being made.

Imagine what would happened (as a statement) if after this dude had his spine severed, 25% of the Baltimore police department resigned in protest. Common sense would suggest that even the police recognize that's there's  a problem in the department.

*I'm not saying there's a  police brutality problem, or that should have happened.  I'm saying if that were to hypothetically happen it would cause people to reconsider things. Now if gangs are asking people to reconsider their violence that to should also cause people to think about their actions, however hypocritical it may actually be.

[The True Adonis]

You mean like you being responsible for the decimation of the Native American population? Or the slaughter of thousands of innocent human beings in Vietnam or Hiroshima/Nagasaki?

I'm white and I can tell you that killing is NOT acceptable in my culture. Even if whites often carry out acts of mass slaughter a thousand times worse than any nígga can conceive. In his dreams. Even while playing Halo and smoking a shitload of weed.

The Native Americans deserved what they got.  They were the most brutal, child killing, raping, pillaging, war like people on this continent.  They did not want peace.

[Dave D]

you know how they can get rid of the "rioters"?

Put out a DJ and just blast the shit out of some Weird Al Yankovic.  I mean, just crank it.  "Christmas at Ground Zero", "Eat it", "Because I'm Fat..."

Shit will be so wack, the teenagers will go home.  Being serious here, that would work. 

Actually another great idea. I honestly would have loved for something like this to be a preventive measure or an actual action that occurs. .

Sigh...the cops are wrong and the looters are wrong.  End of thread.

X2

while technically true, I'm afraid american culture requires one to 100% support ONE of the parties involved.  Remember how so many republicans adopted Zimmerman as the wife-beating, obama-voting uncle they never had after wasting someone whose pigment they didn't like?  Same thing here.  

Impossible to say the cops are abusive shitbags AND the looters need a nice firehosing.  We are programmed to kneepad one of the parties and hate the other.

X2

We really are a divided country.

[Slapper]

The Native Americans deserved what they got.  They were the most brutal, child killing, raping, pillaging, war like people on this continent.  They did not want peace.

And us walking right in and taking pretty much everything but the kitchen sink had nothing to do with it I suppose.

It was theft. We stole their land and killed them for it.

I'm off to the titty pages.

Nighty night crackas.