Dave Palumbo says Angel Dust contains DMBA

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

They still sell DMZ I think, which for some reason inst on the banned list...

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Dymethazine
Featuring unheard of anabolic and myotropic effects, Dimethazine was compared to Methyltestosterone, Oxymethalone, Androstanazole and Testosterone Propionate in their protein-anabolic activity. Dymethazine was shown to have the HIGHEST myotropic (muscle building) effects out of any of the previously named steroids (Methyl-Test, Anadrol, Winstrol, and Testosterone Propionate)! In addition to this, it also displayed an ability to induce a higher rate of Nitrogen retention than Methyl-Test.(1)

In another study performed on Dimethazine, patients were administered Dimethazine for 45+ days. Liver values did not change for 50% of patients, while the other 50% noticed only modest to moderate increases in liver values(2). So, Dymethazine can increase liver values, however nowhere near the current methyl monsters on the market today. This means Dimethazine can be run for 4-6 weeks without the need of expensive liver support supplements.

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DMZ is long gone.  Once the ban came, that stuff sold sold quicker than Tbombz in his bunny suit

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

LOL bullshit

Come on, Van.  Everyone knows it.  That's why Ephedra was banned.  Its a safe weight loss product which has been used for thousands of years.  Pharma companies are throwing money at the politicians so they can ban nutritional supplements that cut into their competition. 


And now Ephedra is back because of the b.s that went on.  So stock up boys

[thegamechanger]

how is ephedra back? is it legal? which supplements has it

[Waller]

how is ephedra back? is it legal? which supplements has it

I think Bostin's Freak Juice has it.

[Thong Maniac]

DMZ is long gone.  Once the ban came, that stuff sold sold quicker than Tbombz in his bunny suit

Dude they were still selling it like a week ago

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

how is ephedra back? is it legal? which supplements has it

Ephedrine is actually legal in the U.S so a company can put about 10mg into their formula although most haven't because of it being on shaky ground

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Dude they were still selling it like a week ago

I think you're getting Blackston confused with IronMagLabs.  They still had some

[insider]

No surprise coming from these guys, they are shady. They only care about taking your money so they can buy more cars

[Automation]

Vince. How much are these two asshats paying you to be their getbig bitch?

[OneMoreRep]

Vince. How much are these two asshats paying you to be their getbig bitch?

I'm pretty sure Vince gets very formidable compensation for his fine work.

"1"

[specter]

Guy who sold fake GH says what ?
Guy who destroyed girls liver with shitty fatlos product says what ?

[Van_Bilderass]

Come on, Van.  Everyone knows it.  That's why Ephedra was banned.  Its a safe weight loss product which has been used for thousands of years.  Pharma companies are throwing money at the politicians so they can ban nutritional supplements that cut into their competition. 


And now Ephedra is back because of the b.s that went on.  So stock up boys

There is no interest in a crappy stim like this. No pharma comp is interested, come on.

And are you talking about ephedra leaves? That's legal because there's zero ephedrine in it.

[WannaBePro]

Im curious if pj and aapron ever took the stuff they sell...
Of course they will SAY they do but Id love to know the truth (which we never will)

I remember listening to PJ on a podcast, can't remember which one, and he said he doesn't take the methylated stuff (like dmz and trenabol or whatever they call it) because he gets too many sides from it and has a history with health issues and orals.
I've tried DMZ 3.0 from IML and i noticed strength increase, but no real size increase. I also got extremely lethargic about a week and a half in. I basically lived on energy drinks and coffee, I lasted 3 weeks before I had to stop due to almost falling asleep at work all the time. But if you can live with the lethargy I'd say strength gains are pretty solid.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

There is no interest in a crappy stim like this. No pharma comp is interested, come on.

And are you talking about ephedra leaves? That's legal because there's zero ephedrine in it.

No, I'm talking about the the actual ephedra alkaloids...the active ingredient.  Yea, there's a bunch of companies running around with that scheme

[Van_Bilderass]

No, I'm talking about the the actual ephedra alkaloids...the active ingredient.  Yea, there's a bunch of companies running around with that scheme

Can you give me an example of such a product? I want to look at the label.

[Powerlift66]

The buzz on the supplement forums is BSL stuff is top notch. (Anabolic Minds Forum).
People are buying the stuff up...

With their name already as a top company, they are doing (and will do) fine.
People use supplements like crazy, I read that forum sometimes and people just spend big bucks on the stuff.

Many of todays young lifters really rely on supps, wont (cant) train without them.

Good for PJ and Aaron...

[bigmc]

i just read up on dmba

its a stimulant that fucks you up

the fda are going to crack down

its like a legal high brahs

[FitnessFrenzy]

Anyone is an idiot who takes Blackstone Products. Would you trust sticking anything in your body made by these two clowns?

yes, their cocks (no homo)

[WannaBePro]

The buzz on the supplement forums is BSL stuff is top notch. (Anabolic Minds Forum).
People are buying the stuff up...

With their name already as a top company, they are doing (and will do) fine.
People use supplements like crazy, I read that forum sometimes and people just spend big bucks on the stuff.

Many of todays young lifters really rely on supps, wont (cant) train without them.

Good for PJ and Aaron...

I consider myself a "young guy" and all I ever buy is protein powder.
I do know what you mean though, there is always a group of highschool/college kids who come into my gym and mix up their preworkouts. The place looks like a dust cloud for 5 minutes as they mix their concoctions. I do wonder sometimes how much they spend on this useless crap. Might as well buy gear with that money and see actual gains.

Funny story: I overheard two guys come into the gym and one apparently just bought a new preworkout and was excited to try it out. He then realized he left it at home and told his friend he'll skip the workout today and just come in tomorrow when he has his powder. His friend offered some C4 he had but the guy refused it and left in an angry huff. I was floored when I saw that happen.

[njflex]

I consider myself a "young guy" and all I ever buy is protein powder.
I do know what you mean though, there is always a group of highschool/college kids who come into my gym and mix up their preworkouts. The place looks like a dust cloud for 5 minutes as they mix their concoctions. I do wonder sometimes how much they spend on this useless crap. Might as well buy gear with that money and see actual gains.

Funny story: I overheard two guys come into the gym and one apparently just bought a new preworkout and was excited to try it out. He then realized he left it at home and told his friend he'll skip the workout today and just come in tomorrow when he has his powder. His friend offered some C4 he had but the guy refused it and left in an angry huff. I was floored when I saw that happen.

WOW,,,

[polychronopolous]

WOW,,,

Reminds me of that Ultimate Warrior video where he says he received an email from a young guy asking "What is more important? Working out OR taking your supplements?"

Not and/or just or.

[thegamechanger]

Reminds me of that Ultimate Warrior video where he says he received an email from a young guy asking "What is more important? Working out OR taking your supplements?"

Not and/or just or.

well what is the answer 

[residue]

The only reason why methyl-pentene is being banned is because its works as stated and the pharma companies hate competition.  In fact, they've already started marketing it for medical uses.....its just that you'll have to spend 200 dollars rather than 30 dollars for it

has it worked for you? if so i'll take the opposite

[The Abdominal Snoman]

this is happening? Could this mean "lawsuit"?

Takes a lot to win a lawsuit against a supplement company...They mix and move products so fast that in a lot of cases, it's tough to pin down exact damages one occurs using assorted and some types dangerous snake oil...

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

has it worked for you? if so i'll take the opposite

I currently use Backdraft, Resurgence, PhytoGreen, and Sleep/GH.  I don't use Angel Dust or Cobra due to high blood pressure.  The only stimulants I use is caffeine from coffee or espresso.