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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM »
I've met guys who did up to 150iu every day in the off season.

My good friend shot 50iu the first shot instead of 5iu.  He didn't understand how to read the pin and thankfully called me afterwards.

After drinking apple juice for 3 hours he was fine.


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this is common among the people who do gh

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2015, 01:12:00 PM »
www.arthurjonesexercise. com/Unpublished/Colorado.pdf

Casey Viator NEVER used any drugs while employed by Arthur Jones.  If you think otherwise you don't what your talking about.  He did after he moved to california & started training w/ Mentzer.  His physique & competitive bodybuilding career went straight downhill as a result of this move.  He died from congestive heart failure because he wouldn't take his meds nor keep regularly scheduled doc appointments.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2015, 02:04:26 PM »
I'm sure thats ^ what many drug users bodies have told them long before irrepairable damage was done & they DIED.  Dude seriously permanently F'in your body up w/ crap that doesn't work is stupid.  It'd be alot easier to put a gun to your head now instead of later.
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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2015, 03:37:34 PM »
www.arthurjonesexercise. com/Unpublished/Colorado.pdf

Casey Viator NEVER used any drugs while employed by Arthur Jones.  If you think otherwise you don't what your talking about.  He did after he moved to california & started training w/ Mentzer.  His physique & competitive bodybuilding career went straight downhill as a result of this move.  He died from congestive heart failure because he wouldn't take his meds nor keep regularly scheduled doc appointments.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2015, 03:54:41 PM »
Wow up to 300 units a day; a type 2 diabetic usually needs only around 1 unit per KG daily. Although I agree with one of the OP's that insulin is very anabolic it also causes hypoglycemia, atherosclerosis, weight gain (not the good kind), and worsens hypertension. For a person who is not technically a diabetic to utilize insulin is insane. I know a few pro level BB's who utilize GH, which is antagonistic to insulin in that it raises blood sugar (along with cortisol and epinephrine...they are counter-regulatory hormones). Apparently, this combination packs on muscle but at what cost. As you can see, since the 1990's when GH and insulin use really took off we went away from the Lee Haney / Lee Labrada physiques and morphed to Dorian and Ronnie. I don't think looking at the condition of DY and RC in their later years that it was necessarily a wise decision. Did they become ginormous...of course. However, their guts and internal organs grew also; can anyone with a straight face really want to looke like DY or RC circa 1996/1997 or 2004/2005, respectively. If you do more power to you and I got a bridge I want to sell you. For the realists, this degree of drug use is bringing the sport down, and it won't stop until the judges stop catering to the mass at all costs dictum.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2015, 05:19:19 PM »
I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior.  No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
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Alot of guys use up to 50 units slow acting upon waking. Then 30 to 40 fast each meal. Crazy because you have peaks to watch for. Gavin kane had a protocol years ago on pm. But theres local level guys on insane dosages Even higher.
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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2015, 06:05:43 PM »
;D I partied with Casey Viator in the early eighties at my buddies apt. If you believe that I got some land in the Everglades for you.

Arthur fired Casey when he tried to squeeze Jones for more $$ in the mid 1970's.  If drugs work explain why despite using 2gr/day w/ Mentzer he never looked better than in 1971???
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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2015, 10:53:46 PM »
I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior.  No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
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Alot of guys use up to 50 units slow acting upon waking. Then 30 to 40 fast each meal. Crazy because you have peaks to watch for. Gavin kane had a protocol years ago on pm. But theres local level guys on insane dosages Even higher.

I had no idea this was a common thing!!! I'm putting on weight with 20iu a day. I might just have to step my game up

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2015, 03:12:26 AM »
I had no idea this was a common thing!!! I'm putting on weight with 20iu a day. I might just have to step my game up

Why would you? You're making progress on this dose and everything is still controllable.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2015, 03:13:33 AM »
Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2015, 03:54:25 AM »
Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?

This, he is putting on 99.9 percent fat and .01 percent muscle tissue.

Also, Mike...your wife ok with u also using diabetic medications? Y'all ever sit down and go "why the fuck are we doing all this"? Your not a pro and never will be, why are you soooo wrapped up in this sub culture of underground freakness? You need a new hobby man. I hope this helps

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2015, 03:54:38 AM »
Don told me himself when I asked if he'd be competing that year's masters "My doc told me if I keep competing I'd end up having my legs amputated"...he died 3 months later.

It is MY mission in life to prove, as Arthur Jones did w/ Case Viator in The Colorado Experiment, you don't need any supplements.  Just healthy food & rest.  Admittedly I do use creatine for bb'ing purposes as I do think it helps.  I also use arginine as I suffer from Peripheral Vascular Disease and it definitely helps w/ vasodilation.  No stupid-assed protein powder or drugs.

I think if I can present a 48yr old, 5'8", 218lbs, <10% bf physique 100% naturally basically using only creatine I will have proven this ^.

Great gimmick Junior.

Btw if you haven't proved Arthur Jones training methods as legitimate within the last 30 years of training it's not going to happen at 48. Funny stuff though.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2015, 09:07:37 AM »
Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?
he's offseason mode like sev ;)

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2015, 12:22:44 PM »
Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?

I was just being sarcastic. I don't care for insulin much to be honest. I'm more interested to see what growth will do in 4 months or so. 

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2015, 12:35:30 PM »
I don't believe this fools understand their measures.  Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?

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« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2015, 12:36:58 PM »
I don't believe this fools understand their measures.  Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?
Yep, spoke to a guy yesterday who told me he was taking 25mgs of T3

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2015, 12:55:33 PM »
Yep, spoke to a guy yesterday who told me he was taking 25mgs of T3

Holy shit man. It wasn't really taking that much was he? Tell me he just got confused between mcg and mg

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2015, 01:07:36 PM »
Holy shit man. It wasn't really taking that much was he? Tell me he just got confused between mcg and mg

Yep, just got mixed up
Maybe the guy taking 3ccs of insulin got mixed up as well

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2015, 07:14:36 AM »
I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior.  No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...


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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2015, 01:24:33 PM »
I don't believe this fools understand their measures.  Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?
there was this bodybuilder who took 100x or 1000x the dosage of t3 , like 50mg instead of 50mcg or so,
IIRC he had a thyroid storm, got hospitalized and i think he later even died from it, i dont remember the name though. he was quite known...

also ESFitness on here has some story to tell about that i think... he accidentally took t3 instead of t4 but in t4 dosages... for weeks...
lost like 50lbs and nearly died or something

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2015, 01:30:11 PM »
there was this bodybuilder who took 100x or 1000x the dosage of t3 , like 50mg instead of 50mcg or so,
IIRC he had a thyroid storm, got hospitalized and i think he later even died from it, i dont remember the name though. he was quite known...

also ESFitness on here has some story to tell about that i think... he accidentally took t3 instead of t4 but in t4 dosages... for weeks...
lost like 50lbs and nearly died or something

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2015, 04:42:56 PM »
Milos also had thyroid storm, his wife slathered his back with Percutacrine cream, thinking it wouldn't get absorbed to a high extent.

I doubt Wood's passing had much to do with the thyroid episode.

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2015, 10:21:14 PM »
Enjoy diabetes
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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2015, 07:33:14 AM »
Enjoy diabetes

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Re: 3cc of insulin a day!?!??
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2015, 07:42:57 AM »
If we both came in equal condition? Yes  ;D
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