Author Topic: I tried it for a couple of months. I can't take it anymore. (Read 10304 times)

chaos · « **Reply #50 on:** May 02, 2015, 05:31:50 PM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on May 02, 2015, 05:21:15 PM

To play the devil's advocate what happens for many is your self image gets tied up in something like a big bench. You see yourself as better than the rest because of it. It doesn't matter that you have no gas in the tank and would tire running around a block or boxing one round. Instead of low rep pushing huge weights thinking you're impressing everyone in the gym when you go for muscular endurance pushing moderate weights it's hurts your ego. Sure you can raw bench 450lbs but you can't do 5 quick sets of 12 in the bench with 225 with a controlled cadence because you run out of gas on the third set. Besides you wouldn't be caught dead failing only using that.

Personally I remember being big and looking great going into first into boxing and then into jui jitsu thinking my big numbers in the gym would translate into fighting. First thing I did when I realized I had a zero gas tank was to get a pair of running shoes and like every boxer, MMA, wrestler guy I hit the pavement. Guys that have a 1200 horse power motor but a 2 gallon tank have nothing. Better to have a 600 horse power motor and a 20 gallon tank. An over simplification but you get my point.

Guess that would depend on what you're using it for.

SF1900 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 02, 2015, 05:33:19 PM »

Quote from: _aj_ on May 02, 2015, 03:35:45 PM

One catastrophic injury will change that tune toot sweet.

Like when Junior tried to curl 80kg.

chaos · « **Reply #52 on:** May 02, 2015, 05:35:35 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 05:33:19 PM

Like when Junior tried to curl 80kg.

Ripped both of his arms off, can't log into his 700 gimmicks.

dyslexic · « **Reply #53 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:05:54 PM »

Quote from: LittleJ on May 02, 2015, 05:06:39 PM

I suck.

Yeah....

All Getbiggers do ~ no worries.

240 is Back · « **Reply #54 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:23:45 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2015, 03:20:13 PM

I can gain strength while losing. The point was I tried going back to isolating body parts (bodybuilding) and my numbers on my main lifts got destroyed in the last couple of months. Rep were higher, volume was higher, etc. Have to go back to powerlfting/strongman type training. This is ego killer. I'd rather deal with a couple of strains than be weak.

lifting numbers don't matter.

the scale, the bodyfat %, the cholesterol, the blood pressure, those are the only numbers that matter now.

we're old, dude. looking big in a t-shirt or lifting as much as the youngin's.... no more time for that nonsense.

i want you around to debate on getbig for another 40 or 50 years man. GetLean!

DanM · « **Reply #55 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:37:48 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 02, 2015, 08:23:45 PM

lifting numbers don't matter.

the scale, the bodyfat %, the cholesterol, the blood pressure, those are the only numbers that matter now.

we're old, dude. looking big in a t-shirt or lifting as much as the youngin's.... no more time for that nonsense.

i want you around to debate on getbig for another 40 or 50 years man. GetLean!

Who are you to say lifting #s don't matter? Staying strong at an older age is just as important if not more so then when you're younger.

240 is Back · « **Reply #56 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:39:45 PM »

Quote from: DanM on May 02, 2015, 08:37:48 PM

Who are you to say lifting #s don't matter? Staying strong at an older age is just as important if not more so then when you're younger.

coach has looked kinda heavy in recent pics. if he's achieving epic leans but benching 10 pounds less, I'm happy for him.

chaos · « **Reply #57 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:53:11 PM »

Quote from: DanM on May 02, 2015, 08:37:48 PM

Who are you to say lifting #s don't matter? Staying strong at an older age is just as important if not more so then when you're younger.

x2
Check out our 500# deadlifter @76 years old on the powerlifting board.

Henda · « **Reply #58 on:** May 02, 2015, 10:32:47 PM »

Some just aren't auited for the "bodybuilding" style training, I'm not knocking it and have seen it work phenomenally well for some but for me I just get smaller and weaker.
For me sets of 3 to 5 are best done with a controlled negative. Interestingly about ten years ago when first switching from higher reps to failure to alternating 3x5 and 3x3 on main exercises I actually made better gains (size and strength) than ever did with bodybuilding style training.

Powerlift66 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 03, 2015, 04:24:22 AM »

Quote from: affeman on May 02, 2015, 03:09:28 PM

Weight is not important it's the form what matters.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #60 on:** May 03, 2015, 04:29:24 AM »

Quote from: affeman on May 02, 2015, 03:09:28 PM

Weight is not important it's the form what matters.

That's the classic BB vs. PL debate, and no one wins at the end of the day...

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #61 on:** May 03, 2015, 10:01:48 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 02, 2015, 05:22:21 PM

lol at defending this guy because hes a powerlifter. lol haha.

Hes about two steps away from a heart attack, but who cares because he's strong lol.

At that point, he seriously needs to go on a diet. Totally unhealthy. Why would someone let themselves get this way? I do not have a ripped six-pack, however, I dont have 30% bodyfat either :/

Yet this guy will out live 95% of bodybuilders competing at high levels. BTW, way to find the fattest PL pic you could. How about throwing up a pic of Dan Green?

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #62 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:09:51 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2015, 03:39:09 PM

I'll drink beer, eat donuts and watch reruns of WSM on youtube until I heal. I'll start with 40oz kegs.

Milk is for babies....Arnold drinks beer.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #63 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:18:21 PM »

Quote from: Dr Dutch on May 03, 2015, 02:09:51 PM

Milk is for babies....Arnold drinks beer.

Ahnuld was a big believer in milk as well, hence his smooth conditioning...

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #64 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:19:18 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on May 02, 2015, 05:12:12 PM

That's because you're a Heybro

DP, what is a Heybro..?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #65 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:24:15 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on May 03, 2015, 02:18:21 PM

Ahnuld was a big believer in milk as well, hence his smooth conditioning...

?? You sound like he drank it when dieting for a contest

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #66 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:30:27 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2015, 02:24:15 PM

?? You sound like he drank it when dieting for a contest

In case he didn't, then why was he so damn smooth during most contests? Keep in mind that back in the day drinking milk was a common thing...

Mawse · « **Reply #67 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:47:57 PM »

What is light in this context? I rarely go under a 45 second TUL for upper body sets, 60 for lower and that's a lot better than spazzing for 10 seconds with a heavier weight IMO

Van b nailed it in the first answer, dieting means more drugs if you want to maintain strength.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #68 on:** May 03, 2015, 03:10:12 PM »

Quote from: Mawse on May 03, 2015, 02:47:57 PM

What is light in this context? I rarely go under a 45 second TUL for upper body sets, 60 for lower and that's a lot better than spazzing for 10 seconds with a heavier weight IMO

Van b nailed it in the first answer, dieting means more drugs if you want to maintain strength.

That's not true. Changing your training modalities is what makes a program. Not drugs. If you're training volume 3-4 excercises per body part at 10-12 reps with :60 recovery you will lose strength drugs or not. Change the program to power based program (1-5 reps in the main lifts. Bench, squat, deadlift, etc with 2-4min of recovery) and strength goes up. Laymen I know but its a fact.