7 weeks into Diet, not much happening

[Thong Maniac]

Still low carbing/hi fat during the week and eating anywhere from 1500 - 1900 cals on average. This diet im just using 200mg a week. No GH. The tightness is not there this time. Still flabby but scale weight is dropping quick. The hardness is just not there. Any solutions? Im an endo. I allow 24hrs where i can eat what i want but might need to drop that? I want a year round leanness but i dont think its genetically possible the longer i tinker with my body

[a_pupil]

Mon to Fri: 3 balanced meals a day of 50-60 g carbs, 40-50 g protein and 15 g fats. A bit of fruit when you are starving.

Sat-Sun: Eat what you want in moderation.

Try for a few weeks and thank me later.

[Teutonic Knight]

Try Nazi concentration camp diet 

[Thong Maniac]

Mon to Fri: 3 balanced meals a day of 50-60 g carbs, 40-50 g protein and 15 g fats. A bit of fruit when you are starving.

Sat-Sun: Eat what you want in moderation.

Try for a few weeks and thank me later.

Thanks mate, i might try this.

Ive always heard low carb is how to get "hard" but im not seeing this yet

[Competitor 9]

Thanks mate, i might try this.

Ive always heard low carb is how to get "hard" but im not seeing this yet

Low carb is how you burn off fullness. It's all about carb cycling adding carbs when you get to flat and keeping metab rates up. If you keep dieting in low cals especially low carbs your body is going to adapt to it and slow down and stall. Then no matter what you do your not going to get lean and keep your size. Drugs play a huge helping hand but your not taking enough to play a big roll

[Thong Maniac]

Low carb is how you burn off fullness. It's all about carb cycling adding carbs when you get to flat and keeping metab rates up. If you keep dieting in low cals especially low carbs your body is going to adapt to it and slow down and stall. Then no matter what you do your not going to get lean and keep your size. Drugs play a huge helping hand but your not taking enough to play a big roll

So low cals in the range im at, but add carbs in certain days?

[Competitor 9]

So low cals in the range im at, but add carbs in certain days?

Ya like say for a heavy compound day such as leg or back day. For me after high carb days my Metabolism would speed up and in 2 or 3 days I'd flatten really hard so I'd add like 40g of carbs to every meal. It can be trick and helps if someone can look at you. After a while you can start reading your body 

[Mr Anabolic]

Still low carbing/hi fat during the week and eating anywhere from 1500 - 1900 cals on average. This diet im just using 200mg a week. No GH. The tightness is not there this time. Still flabby but scale weight is dropping quick. The hardness is just not there. Any solutions? Im an endo. I allow 24hrs where i can eat what i want but might need to drop that? I want a year round leanness but i dont think its genetically possible the longer i tinker with my body

Is the gear real or fake?

[Thong Maniac]

Ya like say for a heavy compound day such as leg or back day. For me after high carb days my Metabolism would speed up and in 2 or 3 days I'd flatten really hard so I'd add like 40g of carbs to every meal. It can be trick and helps if someone can look at you. After a while you can start reading your body 

Seems kind of advanced tthough man,
How much cardio you doing?

[equipoise]

Still low carbing/hi fat during the week and eating anywhere from 1500 - 1900 cals on average. This diet im just using 200mg a week. No GH. The tightness is not there this time. Still flabby but scale weight is dropping quick. The hardness is just not there. Any solutions? Im an endo. I allow 24hrs where i can eat what i want but might need to drop that? I want a year round leanness but i dont think its genetically possible the longer i tinker with my body

use DNP for a while. Then use ECA for a while to help with appetite suppression and energy during workouts. Then if you want, switch out to clen and t3. You should be decently shredded by then. Of course cardio a long the way as well.

As a natural endo it will be hard for you to stay really lean year round without GH. The best bodybuilders are actually the skinny ectos who respond well to drugs, because they can put on size without getting fat. Alternatively, you can just photoshop your instagram pics and no one will be the wiser.

All drugs

[Competitor 9]

Seems kind of advanced tthough man,
How much cardio you doing?

Well I don't know your body type but 30 to 40 mins hitt 5 days a week would be fine

[HTexan]

Still low carbing/hi fat during the week and eating anywhere from 1500 - 1900 cals on average. This diet im just using 200mg a week. No GH. The tightness is not there this time. Still flabby but scale weight is dropping quick. The hardness is just not there. Any solutions? Im an endo. I allow 24hrs where i can eat what i want but might need to drop that? I want a year round leanness but i dont think its genetically possible the longer i tinker with my body

losing muscle mass?

[Thong Maniac]

losing muscle mass?

Not too bad just not improving in composistion

[Competitor 9]

Not too bad just not improving in composistion

If you want to pm me I'd be willing to help you out

[HTexan]

If you want to pm me I'd be willing to help you out

It's a trap.

[wes]

Cycle carbs,no fat,tons of water,train insane.

You can`t flex fat and we get more than enough of it in our diets even while eating clean.

Fat = calorie dense.

[Thong Maniac]

Cycle carbs,no fat,tons of water,train insane.

You can`t flex fat and we get more than enough of it in our diets even while eating clean.

Fat = calorie dense.

Ok see this is why im confused Wes. According to keto and Anabolic diet lore, its carbs making us fat. As they produce insulin. Also, you mention carb cycling, but on days you dont eat carbs, you still limit fats?

My beef with eating the low fat way, is you still have to watch calories, same with hi fat diets. Howver, its way easier to over eat with carbs than fat. Fat may be more dense but it does fill u up and u eat less calories total. Thats why keto apparently works.

[Overload]

You're fat dude, it's going to take a while.

[Grape Ape]

Ok see this is why im confused Wes. According to keto and Anabolic diet lore, its carbs making us fat. As they produce insulin. Also, you mention carb cycling, but on days you dont eat carbs, you still limit fats?

My beef with eating the low fat way, is you still have to watch calories, same with hi fat diets. Howver, its way easier to over eat with carbs than fat. Fat may be more dense but it does fill u up and u eat less calories total. Thats why keto apparently works.

7 weeks in your diet supposedly isn't working.  Why not listen to a guys whose been there / done that multiple times.

Either way, you overthink this stuff.   Exercise hard enough, eat less and decent and you'll get lean, macro combos won't matter.

Still think you're just trolling us though.

[a_pupil]

dieting is simple unless you're trying to get stage ready. no voodoo involved. x 10-12 bodyweight in calories, moderate carbs, moderate protein and low - medium fat.

just listen to wes and leave us the fuck alone 

[wes]

Ok see this is why im confused Wes. According to keto and Anabolic diet lore, its carbs making us fat. As they produce insulin. Also, you mention carb cycling, but on days you dont eat carbs, you still limit fats?

My beef with eating the low fat way, is you still have to watch calories, same with hi fat diets. Howver, its way easier to over eat with carbs than fat. Fat may be more dense but it does fill u up and u eat less calories total. Thats why keto apparently works.

FUCK FAT,Fuck Keto........try the "WES DIET" !!!!   ;0

Meal #1 :
10 eggwhites cooked in non-fat cooking spray
1 whole egg
12 oz. water

Meal #2 :
1 can water packed tuna (straight out da` can)
lg. green salad with Fat Freee Low sugar dressing
12 oz. water

Meal #3 :
6 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup of rice or a baked potato (use fake butter spray)
2 cups veggies
12 oz. water

Meal #4 :
Post workout skake in water  (put this in the mix after you train)

Meal #5 :
6 whole eggs scrambled in PAM spray
12 oz. water

Meal # 6:
Whey in water

Never eat carbs before training or you will burn these carbs as fuel as opposed to the much better scenario of burning your own bodyfat.


Walk on an inclined treadmill 5-6 days post-workout at various speeds and heights..........mix it up.

[Thong Maniac]

7 weeks in your diet supposedly isn't working.  Why not listen to a guys whose been there / done that multiple times.

Either way, you overthink this stuff.   Exercise hard enough, eat less and decent and you'll get lean, macro combos won't matter.

Still think you're just trolling us though.

No trolling man, just an endo on a quest for hardness and keep it year round. So tired of needing to starve for 10 weeks just for one beach trip. I wanna be beach reay all summer

[wes]

No cheat meals until you get to 5 % bodyfat.......get serious and you`ll be shredded beyond your wildest dreams.

If it was easy,everyone would be ripped!!!

[Thong Maniac]

FUCK FAT,Fuck Keto........try the "WES DIET" !!!!   ;0

Meal #1 :
10 eggwhites cooked in non-fat cooking spray
1 whole egg
12 oz. water

Meal #2 :
1 can water packed tuna (straight out da` can)
lg. green salad with Fat Freee Low sugar dressing
12 oz. water

Meal #3 :
6 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup of rice or a baked potato (use fake butter spray)
2 cups veggies
12 oz. water

Meal #4 :
Post workout skake in water  (put this in the mix after you train)

Meal #5 :
6 whole eggs scrambled in PAM spray
12 oz. water

Meal # 6:
Whey in water

Never eat carbs before training or you will burn these carbs as fuel as opposed to the much better scenario of burning your own bodyfat.


Walk on an inclined treadmill 5-6 days post-workout at various speeds and heights..........mix it up.

Thanks man, do u ever do cheat meals to stay sane here?
Also, maybe 7 weeks is too quick to notice much. I was probably at 15-16 percent. No Lard, just fluffy.
Also, why do u feel keto is bad? Id hate to ditch the anabolic diet after almost 3 months of it (only 7 weeks of low cal dieting though)


Maybe get lean with your approach and then really limit carbs to maintain, but increase the cals? The goal here is a lifestyle that an endo can use to get and StAY lean

[che]

FUCK FAT,Fuck Keto........try the "WES DIET" !!!!   ;0

Meal #1 :
10 eggwhites cooked in non-fat cooking spray
1 whole egg
12 oz. water

Meal #2 :
1 can water packed tuna (straight out da` can)
lg. green salad with Fat Freee Low sugar dressing
12 oz. water

Meal #3 :
6 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup of rice or a baked potato (use fake butter spray)
2 cups veggies
12 oz. water

Meal #4 :
Post workout skake in water  (put this in the mix after you train)

Meal #5 :
6 whole eggs scrambled in PAM spray
12 oz. water

Meal # 6:
Whey in water

Never eat carbs before training or you will burn these carbs as fuel as opposed to the much better scenario of burning your own bodyfat.


Walk on an inclined treadmill 5-6 days post-workout at various speeds and heights..........mix it up.

This  method certainly goes against the 'Adonis Principles' and 'The NoOne -Galeniko Principles'  , I  would not hit .