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Slammed this month..
« on: May 06, 2015, 08:44:58 PM »
34 new clients in 3 weeks and the owner of our building decides to fuck with me at the end of my lease. No write ups of disturbing other businesses, we're owed a credit on rents, she said she doesn't mind the usage. Gave her a new lease proposal including increases. They own more than 500 units and she decides she doesn't want a gym but then says she doesn't mind the usage. Fuck me. I'm confused.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 08:53:51 PM »
She's negotiating and you're losing. If she doesn't mind the use then that's how you should take it. Ask what the average increase they expect from their properties is...they have a number in mind so might as well just ask before writing anything up. Not sure where you are but commercial property in the midwest is weak, weak, weak and vacant everywhere so I'd just make sure to not screw yourself...my $0.02.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 09:01:11 PM »
She's negotiating and you're losing. If she doesn't mind the use then that's how you should take it. Ask what the average increase they expect from their properties is...they have a number in mind so might as well just ask before writing anything up. Not sure where you are but commercial property in the midwest is weak, weak, weak and vacant everywhere so I'd just make sure to not screw yourself...my $0.02.

We currently pay .95 sqft in the offer we increased it by the normal 3% and still turned it down. I tried to negotiate up to $1.10 and still nothing. Right now the market for warehouse space is hot. Even the property manager is confused as to why the owner isn't taking our deal. We lease 2 units from her. She boots us and she loses those monies for at least a month or two.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 09:06:35 PM »
With still no indication as to what the increase is...maybe you should see if a commercial real estate broker would work the offer on your behalf for a flat fee.

Could be as simple as her seeing how much you have setup there - and she's taking advantage of the fact that moving would be miserable for you.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 09:07:11 PM »
Its all obamas fault

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 09:07:54 PM »
"Why are you telling us this ???" - True Adonis

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Re: Slammed this month..
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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 09:10:36 PM »
Also, no counteroffer is strange. Her just saying "no" as you keep raising the price does you no good. Get another brain in on it.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 09:13:17 PM »
Seduce the owner's wife, after knocking on the door and posing as a Hilary 2016 campaigner. 
She'll convince hubby to sign the lease. 

It'd be so awesome and hilarious and ironic at the same time.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 09:19:40 PM »
"Why are you telling us this ???" - True Adonis

lmao

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 09:20:24 PM »
Also, no counteroffer is strange. Her just saying "no" as you keep raising the price does you no good. Get another brain in on it.

We have 6 large property owners that we train and all have been clients for more than 10 years. They can't even understand why this owner is doing this. It's not the problem of losing the lease. The problem is the market is hot and (not meaning this to be a CrossFit thread) but because of them it makes hard for normal gym or strength and conditioning facility to lease because they have the reputation to destroy the properties. Not all of course but enough to for owners to say no to other gyms.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2015, 09:21:11 PM »
Seduce the owner's wife, after knocking on the door and posing as a Hilary 2016 campaigner. 
She'll convince hubby to sign the lease. 

It'd be so awesome and hilarious and ironic at the same time.

The owner is an old curmudgeon women.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2015, 09:23:31 PM »


For once this isn't Oshitheads fault. Like 99.9% of libs, he's clueless about business and God knows he can't negotiate for shit.

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 09:27:38 PM »
We have 6 large property owners that we train and all have been clients for more than 10 years. They can't even understand why this owner is doing this. It's not the problem of losing the lease. The problem is the market is hot and (not meaning this to be a CrossFit thread) but because of them it makes hard for normal gym or strength and conditioning facility to lease because they have the reputation to destroy the properties. Not all of course but enough to for owners to say no to other gyms.



I'd get a broker or lawyer to handle it for a flat fee. Maybe with one phone call a third party could clarify the issue. If they think it's worth $2 per or something you need to know asap.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 09:28:31 PM »
lmao

hes been absent lately :(

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 09:29:56 PM »
For once this isn't Oshitheads fault. Like 99.9% of libs, he's clueless about business and God knows he can't negotiate for shit.

says the guy who is confused because he can't secure a renewal of a lease on his tiny gym

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 09:30:41 PM »
For once this isn't Oshitheads fault. Like 99.9% of libs, he's clueless about business and God knows he can't negotiate for shit.


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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 09:32:27 PM »
PIP?  :-\

He posted last week. So, hes still alive :) Just not posting nearly as much as he used to.
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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2015, 09:35:34 PM »


I'd get a broker or lawyer to handle it for a flat fee. Maybe with one phone call a third party could clarify the issue. If they think it's worth $2 per or something you need to know asap.

I agree and we have one.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2015, 09:37:35 PM »
says the guy who is confused because he can't secure a renewal of a lease on his tiny gym


Bitch please. I make more than you teaching "tire flipping" 101 in a month than you do in 6. Besides,I can't read minds.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2015, 09:38:09 PM »
The owner is an old curmudgeon women.

All the more reason to hit it.  She will feel 20 again.  

We have 6 large property owners that we train and all have been clients for more than 10 years. They can't even understand why this owner is doing this. It's not the problem of losing the lease. The problem is the market is hot and (not meaning this to be a CrossFit thread) but because of them it makes hard for normal gym or strength and conditioning facility to lease because they have the reputation to destroy the properties. Not all of course but enough to for owners to say no to other gyms.

that has to be tough.  I see local crossfit gyms popping up... aside from their stabbing holes in walls, they also put owner at risk of lawsuit if they're the type of people that train reckless and injure people... people who, in turn, just sue everyone.  People that own a building probably MUCH prefer to rent to a restaurant or paper company or service company, that people who are going to toss around metal and tires all day.   *I had a local warehouse become a crossfit gym recently, and they're reckless, picking up jeeps and shoving over trailer hitches, it's just a matter of time until someone is crushed*  All while taking selfies and hashtagging, of course.  I like crossfit for a lot of things, but this particular group is reckless.

Tough spot.  Maybe talk to other gym renters, see what their solution is.  

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2015, 09:43:36 PM »
All the more reason to hit it.  She will feel 20 again.  

that has to be tough.  I see local crossfit gyms popping up... aside from their stabbing holes in walls, they also put owner at risk of lawsuit if they're the type of people that train reckless and injure people... people who, in turn, just sue everyone.  People that own a building probably MUCH prefer to rent to a restaurant or paper company or service company, that people who are going to toss around metal and tires all day.   *I had a local warehouse become a crossfit gym recently, and they're reckless, picking up jeeps and shoving over trailer hitches, it's just a matter of time until someone is crushed*  All while taking selfies and hashtagging, of course.  I like crossfit for a lot of things, but this particular group is reckless.

Tough spot.  Maybe talk to other gym renters, see what their solution is.  

There are very few strength and conditioning facilities and they're in warehouse units. Velocity, athletic republic, all in LARGE warehouse buildings. But others go to retail where you pay double + NNN, I'm looking at a retail tomorrow that's 2550 at $2sqft + .50 NNN. Do the math.

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2015, 10:02:21 PM »
Bitch please. I make more than you teaching "tire flipping" 101 in a month than you do in 6. Besides,I can't read minds.

you sound defensive and angry

I don't really think or worry about a monthly income

glad to hear that tire flipping lessons are going so well

If you have to move it sounds like you can easily afford the higher rent

maybe your landlord just doesn't want to participate in your lifestyle choices


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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2015, 10:27:29 PM »
you sound defensive and angry

I don't really think or worry about a monthly income

glad to hear that tire flipping lessons are going so well

If you have to move it sounds like you can easily afford the higher rent

maybe your landlord just doesn't want to participate in your lifestyle choices



"I really don't think or worry about a monthly income".  because we pay for it though your government assistance?

And yes, I can afford it but why shouldn't I negotiate to keep my overhead low? Just because I can afford it why should I go through the hassle and cost of moving, CUP's, parking studies, moving costs and build outs if I don't have too? Wait, you have finance degree, right?

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Re: Slammed this month..
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2015, 10:35:26 PM »
"I really don't think or worry about a monthly income".  because we pay for it though your government assistance?

And yes, I can afford it but why shouldn't I negotiate to keep my overhead low? Just because I can afford it why should I go through the hassle and cost of moving, CUP's, parking studies, moving costs and build outs if I don't have too? Wait, you have finance degree, right?

Are you 110% sure gay sex don't happen in your gym any more? Maybe she got tired of it and wants you out?

Just saying, think of all the angles.
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