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Marty Champions

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phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« on: May 10, 2015, 05:13:32 AM »
Basically  ttoo much of it leads to calcium deposits in muscle, feet or joints

Baking soda is a phosphorus binder , shitting it out

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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2015, 05:27:02 AM »
calcium and phosphorus have an inverse relationship

that's why people with ESRD have to limit phosphorus intake cause it can cause calcification of blood vessels etc...they have altered acid/base balance

phosphate excretion is diminished in Renal failure leading to hypo-calcemia which also contributes to bone loss (pathological Fx's) as does the diminished synthesis of Vit D inherent in renal failure.

with that said, a normal healthy individual have internal controls (buffers etc) which help to maintain a good acid/base balance.
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2015, 05:29:25 AM »
so trying to invent a diet based on one singular chemical property/relationship without understanding the pathophysiology of the human body is foolish
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2015, 05:31:32 AM »
Quote from: Nordic Beast on May 10, 2015, 05:27:02 AM
calcium and phosphorus have an inverse relationship

that's why people with ESRD have to limit phosphorus intake cause it can cause calcification of blood vessels etc...they have altered acid/base balance

phosphate excretion is diminished in Renal failure leading to hypo-calcemia which also contributes to bone loss (pathological Fx's) as does the diminished synthesis of Vit D inherent in renal failure.

with that said, a normal healthy individual have internal controls (buffers etc) which help to maintain a good acid/base balance.
no one is "normal", few are truely healthy
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2015, 05:32:52 AM »
Quote from: Nordic Beast on May 10, 2015, 05:29:25 AM
so trying to invent a diet based on one singular chemical property/relationship without understanding the pathophysiology of the human body is foolish
irrelavent , google =learning
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2015, 05:35:10 AM »
well watching your backward progress through the years towards obesity and diabetes certainly don't make you a beacon for health and advice  ;)
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2015, 05:37:38 AM »
Quote from: Nordic Beast on May 10, 2015, 05:35:10 AM
well watching your backward progress through the years towards obesity and diabetes certainly don't make you a beacon for health and advice  ;)
u tell em
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2015, 05:41:02 AM »
...troll on waddy
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2015, 05:46:39 AM »
Quote from: Nordic Beast on May 10, 2015, 05:41:02 AM
...troll on waddy
do you know more about this than me?
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2015, 05:47:30 AM »
i dont have muscle pain
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2015, 05:56:43 AM »
Quote from: Nordic Beast on May 10, 2015, 05:29:25 AM
so trying to invent a diet based on one singular chemical property/relationship without understanding the pathophysiology of the human body is foolish
exactly! Ill just take your word for it!yes doing nothing seems to be the key here to figuring it all out


Of course you dont mean that but you did say basically not to modify one ingredient at the time
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015, 05:59:41 AM »
Quote from: thegamechanger on May 10, 2015, 05:47:30 AM
i dont have muscle pain
most people have a form of arthritis ,
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2015, 06:29:53 AM »
Quote from: Marty Champions on May 10, 2015, 05:59:41 AM
most people have a form of arthritis ,

What can be done against it from your point of view?
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015, 06:43:49 AM »
Quote from: _bruce_ on May 10, 2015, 06:29:53 AM
What can be done against it from your point of view?
phosphorus is in all food ,its not bad but it can get out of balance causing calcium deposits

What nb fails to realize we all are at different levels of healthy and unhealthy, elementary concept, thus all precautionary measures are advised

Baking soda binds to phosphorus and flushes it out
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015, 06:46:15 AM »
Im no holy roller but i can argue an idea without fault and will point out yours
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Re: phosphorus linked to excessive unecessary muscle pain
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 08:57:17 AM »
lets strengthen bones and not be breaking bones
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