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Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« on: May 19, 2015, 02:12:56 PM »
Good luck with that.

Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
Posted: 05/19/2015

Los Angeles on Tuesday became the biggest U.S. city to raise its minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Following a hot debate, the city council voted 14 to 1 to approve a plan to gradually increase the required wage to $15 an hour by July 2020. The current $9-an-hour minimum wage was already slated to increase to $10 in January.

The pay bump will affect about 567,000 workers in the city.

“This is a game changer,” Tsedeye Gebreselassie, a senior staff attorney at the wage advocacy group National Employment Law Project, told The Huffington Post minutes after the vote. “L.A. is such a huge city, and it’ll have a national impact on the normalization of $15 as the minimum wage.”

The move comes less than a year after the city council voted to raise hourly pay to $15.37 for nearly 10,000 hotel workers.

The debate over the new minimum wage divided the city. Business groups, including the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce and the Valley Industry and Commerce Association, warned that the increase would hurt small companies and lead to layoffs.

“A lot of businesses are going to struggle,” Stuart Waldman, president of the Valley Industry and Commerce Association, told HuffPost minutes after the vote. “There’s a lot of employees are going to get raises, but there’s also some employees that are going to lose their jobs.”

Los Angeles, the nation’s second-largest city, joins other West Coast cities, including Seattle and San Francisco, which raised their hourly wages to $15 following waves of protests across the country. Meanwhile, the federal minimum wage has stagnated at a paltry $7.25 an hour for the last four years, despite calls to raise it from President Barack Obama.

“You can see over the course of two years, there’s an evolution of position on what a reasonable minimum wage is,” John Schmitt, research director at the liberal-leaning nonprofit Washington Center for Equitable Growth, told The Huffington Post ahead of the vote. “There’s political activity taking place at city and state level, and it’s moved the national debate.”

The city-by-city approach represents one of a two-pronged strategy by activists to increase minimum wages across the country. The second, centered around the wage activism group Fight for $15, has seen mass demonstrations against fast-food companies, which are some of the largest employers of minimum-wage workers.

“It’s highlighted for the American public that raising wages isn’t just about helping workers and making sure people who are struggling to have enough to get by,” Gebreselassie said. “It’s to address income inequality and have truly meaningful economic recovery.”

“People like me, who work hard for multibillion-dollar corporations like McDonald’s, should not have to rely on food stamps to survive,” Albina Ardon, a 29-year-old mother of two who works at a McDonald’s in Los Angeles, said in a statement sent by a Fight for $15 spokeswoman. “My life would be completely different if I were paid $14 an hour. I could afford groceries without needing food stamps, my family could stop sharing our apartment with renters for extra money, and I’d be able to provide my daughters with some security.”

The wage hike will face one final council vote later this year after City Attorney Mike Feuer drafts a plan to implement the new base pay.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/la-minimum-wage_n_7336932.html

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 10:06:07 PM »
Proved liberals have no concept of business.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 11:22:57 PM »
By 2020 $15 an hour won't buy shit. It won't support you now in 2015.

Oregon has not yet passed a similar law with the gradual increases, but it is under discussion.

My grandson who is graduating high school in a week or so, just landed a summer job. His wages are nearly $12 and hour. It's not much, but his expenses aren't much either. Essentially all he needs is some money for gas for his car and enough to take his girlfriend out on a date. Oregon's current minimum wage is $9.25 and hour. Most entry level jobs here pay better than this because it's hard to find folks willing to work for $9.25 an hour....except maybe at Walmart where the prevailing wage is minimum wage.

The company said 500,000 full-time and part-time associates, more than a third of its workforce at Walmart (WMT) U.S. stores and Sam's Clubs, will receive pay raises in April to at least $9 an hour. That will be $1.75 above the federal minimum wage.Feb 19, 2015 and less than Oregon's current minimum wage.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 09:40:44 AM »
the very first time I get the correct food ordered through a fast food drive thru, I'll support this initiative.. but don't hold your breath

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 11:03:52 AM »
the very first time I get the correct food ordered through a fast food drive thru, I'll support this initiative.. but don't hold your breath
If you live in L.A. it's already too late to support it, it already passed.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 11:09:49 AM »
If you live in L.A. it's already too late to support it, it already passed.


it doesn't kick in... until 2020?

By 2020, $15 won't be worth all that much. 


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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 01:21:59 PM »
it doesn't kick in... until 2020?

By 2020, $15 won't be worth all that much. 



Even if it kicked in right now, it still won't help the fact that $15 an hour in LA is unlivable in every single area:

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/05/every_single_part_of_los_angeles_is_unaffordable_on_15_an_hour.php

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 01:55:49 PM »
the very first time I get the correct food ordered through a fast food drive thru, I'll support this initiative.. but don't hold your breath


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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 02:41:25 PM »
Proved liberals have no concept of business.

It just proves that there's never a shortage of stupid people with a poor grasp of economics.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 04:01:17 PM »
it doesn't kick in... until 2020?

By 2020, $15 won't be worth all that much. 



As I understand it, it doesn't fully kick in until 2020. There are increases scheduled every year.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2015, 04:25:12 PM »
It just proves that there's never a shortage of stupid people with a poor grasp of economics.

Tell that to the small business owner. Most successful business owners have more of a grasp on the economy that the one's who forecast it.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 01:51:17 AM »
Tell that to the small business owner. Most successful business owners have more of a grasp on the economy that the one's who forecast it.

I thought you are the owner of a small and successful business. Would you like me to repeat what I said before?

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 07:29:38 AM »

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 11:00:47 AM »
Tell that to the small business owner. Most successful business owners have more of a grasp on the economy that the one's who forecast it.

Is this why a sizable percentage (about 50%) of small businesses go under every year?

For business terminations, the Wells Fargo/NFIB study uses data of the U.S. Census Bureau, which only records closures of companies with employees. Those statistics show that about half of businesses that employ people are still operating five years after they open. "I feel good about the accuracy of the startup numbers," Dennis says, "but there are undoubtedly a lot of underreported stops."


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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2015, 02:06:32 PM »
Is this why a sizable percentage (about 50%) of small businesses go under every year?

For business terminations, the Wells Fargo/NFIB study uses data of the U.S. Census Bureau, which only records closures of companies with employees. Those statistics show that about half of businesses that employ people are still operating five years after they open. "I feel good about the accuracy of the startup numbers," Dennis says, "but there are undoubtedly a lot of underreported stops."



There are a lot of variables as to the reason why businesses close. Could be poor marketing, no demand the product or service, poor management, poor business plan, etc.

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 07:43:35 PM »
Unions seek exemption from LA minimum wage law they helped pass
By  William La Jeunesse
Published May 29, 2015
FoxNews.com

Union leaders in Los Angeles are being accused of hypocrisy after being caught trying to exempt themselves from a new minimum wage law they tried to impose on others.

For months, organized labor went after companies like McDonalds and Walmart, shaming any business that paid the old minimum wage. Carrying signs saying, "We see greed" and "We are worth more," union members marched outside businesses and appeared at City Council meetings demanding Los Angeles raise the minimum wage from $9 to $15 by 2020.

"We say, 'Don't leave anybody out, don't cut anybody out, a wage raise for all workers!'" Mary Elena Durazo, the longtime leader of the 600,000-strong Los Angeles County Federation of Labor AFL-CIO, told a cheering crowd of supporters at a recent council meeting.

Yet after pushing through the new wage law, union officials are asking for a waiver that would allow any company that unionizes to avoid paying the minimum wage.

"It was a real surprise that in the 11th hour that labor was saying, 'well, we basically support a sub-minimum wage if a company decides to enter into collective bargaining,'" Los Angeles City Councilman Mitch O'Farrell said. "And that really is a complete contradiction to what they've been saying the last couple of months."

Councilmen Mike Bonin and O'Farrell are opposing the move.

"It is not acceptable to expect the L.A. City Council to become a vehicle for union organizing," said O'Farrell. "That is not what we were elected to do and that is not what I will engage in."

Bonin agreed, telling the Los Angeles Times, "For me, the point of the minimum wage in Los Angeles was to raise wages and lift [everyone] out of poverty."

What especially angered opponents was unions' attitude toward others who asked for waivers. Restaurants, nonprofits and businesses with fewer than 25 employees asked for a one-year delay. Unions opposed it, calling the 'loophole' unfair to the working poor.

Rusty Hicks -- current president of the L.A. Federation of Labor, who replaced Durazo after she left to head a casino-and-hotel worker union -- argued, "it is critical that no Angeleno, whether they're workers or owners of small businesses and nonprofits, is left behind."

But Wednesday night, Hicks changed his position, telling the council that workers who collectively bargain for wages below the minimum shouldn't be penalized. He and labor attorney Margo Feinberg say federal law protects workers who choose collective bargaining.

"This is a standard clause to protect basic worker rights," Hicks said in a statement.

He's right. Minimum wage ordinances in Chicago, Milwaukee, Oakland, San Francisco and San Jose contain provisions similar to the one labor sought in Los Angeles. The municipal code in San Jose says, "all or any portion of the (ordinance) may be waived in a bona fide collective bargaining agreement."

Business groups, however, claim it's a blatant double standard.

"When unions do something like this, it demonstrates that their rhetoric about low wages is hollow," said the National Federation of Independent Business' Andrew Wimer. "They seem perfectly willing to see workers paid less if it means getting more power for themselves."

"The unions are being too cute by half," added Jot Condie of the California Restaurant Association. "They spent the last few months table-pounding against any exemptions or mitigations to the minimum wage increase -- suggesting no one should get special treatment. Now it is clear they recognize the need for those mitigations and have asked for special treatment for themselves."

O'Farrell said the law is likely to go through without any exemptions, though unions are expected to try again. The local AFL-CIO declined to answer questions submitted by Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/29/unions-seek-exemption-from-la-minimum-wage-law-helped-pass/?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 11:10:30 PM »
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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2015, 11:46:02 PM »
Careful Coach! The Gymbot is coming! ;D



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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2015, 11:21:49 AM »
Lack of cash flow is usually the most common reason businesses fail. Mismanagement is high up there as well.

Beyond the 5 years or so, I think the actual failure rate is closer to 90%.
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Re: Los Angeles Votes To Raise Minimum Wage To $15
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2015, 12:11:51 PM »
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There is one McD's in Paris that has that already.  I used it when I was there at the beginning of this month.  One thing for sure, it eliminates the frustrating experience of have to converse with a mosquito brain behind the counter.

"Hi, this will be to go.  I would like a #4, medium with a Diet Coke". <---- Me.


Umm... *keys tapping*.... ok, you want a........ umm....  #4?  Dat one up there?

*looks at iPhone*  Small, medium or large? 

*tap tap tap tap...*

You said medium right?

*jaws with passing co worker* What you wanna have to drank wid that? 

Want that Diet Coke coke small, medium or large?  You said medium right?  Want a large?  No?  Ok, so like... medium right?

*stares blankly at you for 15 second*  Ok is this order for here to go?