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Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« on: May 21, 2015, 10:47:55 PM »
According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness.  Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable.  Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis.  There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated.  And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II.  (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.)

Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco.  These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance.  In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal.  The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions.  This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.

What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough.  There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change.  Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss.  They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard.  And the APA reacted with truly astonishing speed.  And with good reason. They realized intuitively that a protracted battle would have drawn increasing attention to the spurious nature of their entire taxonomy.  So they quickly “cut loose” the gay community and forestalled any radical scrutiny of the DSM system generally.

The APA claimed that they made the change because new research showed that most homosexual people were content with their sexual orientation, and that as a group, they appeared to be as well-adjusted as heterosexual people.  I suggest, however, that these research findings were simply the APA’s face-saver.  For centuries, perhaps millennia, homosexual people had clung to their sexual orientation despite the most severe persecution and vilification, including imprisonment and death.  Wouldn’t this suggest that they were happy with their orientation?  Do we need research to confirm this?  And if we do, shouldn’t we also need research to confirm that heterosexual people are happy with their orientation?  And if poor adjustment is critical to a diagnosis of mental illness, where was the evidence of this that justified making homosexuality a mental illness in the first place?

Also noteworthy is the fact that the vote of the membership was by no means unanimous.  Only about 55% of the members who voted favored the change.

Of course, the APA put the best spin they could on these events.  The fact is that they altered their taxonomy because of intense pressure from the gay community, but they claimed that the change was prompted by research findings.

So all the people who had this terrible “illness” were “cured” overnight – by a vote!  I remember as a boy reading of the United Nations World Health Organization’s decision to eradicate smallpox.  This was in 1967, and by 1977, after a truly staggering amount of work, the disease was a thing of the past.  Why didn’t they just take a vote?  Because smallpox is a real illness.  The human problems listed in DSM are not.  It’s that simple.  You can say that geese are swans – but in reality they’re still geese.

The overall point being that the APA’s taxonomy is nothing more than self-serving nonsense.  Real illnesses are not banished by voting or by fiat, but by valid science and hard work.  There are no mental illnesses.  Rather, there are people.  We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives.  Sometimes we do well, other times we make a mess of things.  We are complicated.  Our feelings fluctuate with our circumstances, from the depths of despondency to the pinnacles of bliss.  And perhaps, most of all, we are individuals.  DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity.  The homosexual community has managed to liberate themselves from psychiatric oppression.  But there are millions of people worldwide who are still being damaged, stigmatized, and disempowered by this pernicious system to this day.

http://www.behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/
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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 07:11:29 AM »
This one time, the christian church used to Condemn "witches" and burn them alive or drown them. Due to pressure from other groups, this became out dated and laughed at. Witches exist, and the church should have held strong, since they are experts. Liberal trickery caused an end to it unfortunately

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 07:23:17 AM »
good read!

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 07:25:30 AM »
There is a movie coming out called "Do I sound gay".  A guy is looking into why Gay men sound alike when they talk.  I always wondered if they are just acting that way on purpose or really talk like that.

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2015, 07:30:12 AM »
There is a movie coming out called "Do I sound gay".  A guy is looking into why Gay men sound alike when they talk.  I always wondered if they are just acting that way on purpose or really talk like that.
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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2015, 07:32:01 AM »
Its annoying. Why does there have to be a persona attached? Why can't it be like, "hey I'm Lance. I just happen to like cock". Instead so often its all "oooooohhhhhhhhhh helllooooooooo how RRRRRR U"

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 07:33:17 AM »
Gays gonna gay.

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 07:37:13 AM »
There is a movie coming out called "Do I sound gay".  A guy is looking into why Gay men sound alike when they talk.  I always wondered if they are just acting that way on purpose or really talk like that.
I've met straight guys who talk like that so I don't even know what to believe anymore.

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 07:37:32 AM »
Its annoying. Why does there have to be a persona attached? Why can't it be like, "hey I'm Lance. I just happen to like cock". Instead so often its all "oooooohhhhhhhhhh helllooooooooo how RRRRRR U"

I don't know any gay men. I have only seen characters representing gay men on television/movies/tv shows and they always portray them as feminine to some degree. I am more than positive that there are gay men out there that you wouldn't know are gay until they said they were gay.

I can't really comment on none of this, I don't have any scientific research on this subject, but in my impartial opinion, if mans brain have told the man that dicks and man booties are sexual turn on, then that is gay, but you don't simply turn gay, or even want to try gay shit.

The only way for a straight man to try gay things if he is miserable, depressed and hopeless, when he is "cornered" and is desperate for any affection. Maybe then, in the most miserable and hopeless state of mind- he could be self destructive even psychologically and spiritually to throw his identity away to feel any type of affection, but that doesn't make him gay, just paranoid and depressed.

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2015, 09:11:38 AM »
if you post threads about homosexuality on the internet... you might just be gay

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2015, 09:19:46 AM »
There is a movie coming out called "Do I sound gay".  A guy is looking into why Gay men sound alike when they talk.  I always wondered if they are just acting that way on purpose or really talk like that.

They go through phases. When they talk to me, they will downplay it a bt as they know it's annoying to other "non gays" but will play the role more with their friends.

It's no different that hood/thugs. They talk all hard when together, but to me or someone not in their group, they may tone it down.
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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2015, 08:41:24 PM »
I don't know about homosexual, but Lee Priest is part of the Homo floresiensis(hobbit tribe)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis



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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2015, 08:54:19 PM »
not a mental illness its a choice just like smoking

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2015, 09:01:09 PM »
Mental illness.
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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2015, 09:02:05 PM »
 People with Epilepsy, and other seizure disorders were institutionalized for life in the past..... Maybe anyone with illness, or different should be locked away, like a leper colony.  Maybe we can enact a law.... :-X    Just Say No to Crack!!!

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2015, 09:05:10 PM »
not a mental illness its a choice just like smoking

How is it that you know this?

Could it be that it is just your opinion?

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2015, 09:08:38 PM »
not a mental illness its a choice just like smoking

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Re: Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2015, 09:41:08 PM »
How is it that you know this?

Could it be that it is just your opinion?

Dont let him bother you... I can't understand why anyone gives a shit what anyone else does. That being said - I think that its hypocritical and intolerant as fuck to say I am wrong for not sugar coating that I think its disgusting...
That doesn't mean I expect anyone else to think my way...
A liberal dickhead colleague tried to put me on the spot at a social gathering recently.. First off these pricks have some sort of wealth guilt and think that by spewing a bunch of nonsense it makes them somehow better.. I just am not embarrassed or afraid that while I dont care what the fuck "Steve and John" do in the bedroom - the thought of a man makes me sick. The argument that I can't have an opinion because I am not gay is fucking nonsense.. I have never eaten a turd and I am pretty sure that is nasty and to me its exactly the same thing...

Carry on - too much whiskey while those fat fucks pontificated and smoked their stink sticks.