I'm embarrassed of my Irish ancestry today ...

[2Thick]

Who fucking care, marriage is gay wether it is homos or straight

This.

And if 2 men or 2 women or a man and a goat or whatever can use marriage here in the US to legally pay less taxes, I say good for them.

[BigRo]

I served in Belfast, Derry, H Blocks Maze. Other places but i canīt write on here. Southern Ireland i never knew.

fixed for accuracy 

[BigRo]

Who fucking care, marriage is gay wether it is homos or straight

my sentiment, unless 1 man with 3 wives.

[Lustral]

Who cares? It was a democratic referendum, did you vote? I voted but so did nearly 3 million others and I guess that is how democracy works.

You don't always like the result but I'd prefer this to hanging gays from cranes in the street and living in a theocracy. I see it as a wedge for gay adoption which i disagree with (and there was complete dishonesty that gay adoption laws would follow - they will) but the people have spoken so be it.

[_aj_]

Who fucking care, marriage is gay wether it is homos or straight

Truth.

[Teutonic Knight]

Jeezzuss, 2 Irish drunks  on TV , 

[BigRo]

Who cares? It was a democratic referendum, did you vote? I voted but so did nearly 3 million others and I guess that is how democracy works.

You don't always like the result but I'd prefer this to hanging gays from cranes in the street and living in a theocracy. I see it as a wedge for gay adoption which i disagree with (and there was complete dishonesty that gay adoption laws would follow - they will) but the people have spoken so be it.

I didnt vote. I have no objections to gays in this country getting married, though I think marriage is just a social construct and shouldn't make people feel superior to those who are not.

What are your disagreements with gay adoption before I say anything on it myself?

[Lustral]

I didnt vote. I have no objections to gays in this country getting married, though I think marriage is just a social construct and shouldn't make people feel superior to those who are not.

What are your disagreements with gay adoption before I say anything on it myself?

I'm a single father and much as I love myself I lack the compassion of a mother and she lacks the discipline of a man. Call it stereotypical, whatever, it's true. When he was young and bold I disciplined him cos she was too soft. When he was sick she believed it I was like "meh he will be ok".... and he was properly sick (I do the same with myself and everyone). Women have certain qualities as do men and that's why it takes both to make a child. Obviously that is not always there but it should be the ideal and to say there is no difference between hetero and homo couples raising kids is disingenuous and dishonest.

You can point out a load of examples of great people raised by single parents etc but across the spectrum the best environment is with a mother and father.

[Lustral]

I didnt vote. I have no objections to gays in this country getting married, though I think marriage is just a social construct and shouldn't make people feel superior to those who are not.

What are your disagreements with gay adoption before I say anything on it myself?

Either way, my main point was how can you be embarrassed by your "ancestry" when it was a democratic vote in the largest turnout ever for a referendum? People died for our sovereignty and the right to vote and people around the world would die for the right to vote. Being ashamed because of the decision of a majority of the populace by a fair democratic vote is fairly weak grounds for shame. Shame is having your country being such a shithole it murders those of other religions and disavows democracy... like the middle east.

[B_B_C]

Who cares? It was a democratic referendum, did you vote? I voted but so did nearly 3 million others and I guess that is how democracy works.

You don't always like the result but I'd prefer this to hanging gays from cranes in the street and living in a theocracy. I see it as a wedge for gay adoption which i disagree with (and there was complete dishonesty that gay adoption laws would follow - they will) but the people have spoken so be it.

your a lawyer I believe so you already know that it is possible for a gay person to adopt and soon it will be possible for gay couples to adopt
its not as though the country is overflowing with unwanted babies (we had several referenda to export that problem). One might suppose that babies are as available as points on a supervalu reward card from the noise of the past few months.

[B_B_C]

Either way, my main point was how can you be embarrassed by your "ancestry" when it was a democratic vote in the largest turnout ever for a referendum? People died for our sovereignty and the right to vote and people around the world would die for the right to vote. Being ashamed because of the decision of a majority of the populace by a fair democratic vote is fairly weak grounds for shame. Shame is having your country being such a shithole it murders those of other religions and disavows democracy... like the middle east.

very well said and may we be aware what a blessed country (yea I know:) we live in when we think about it

[Lustral]

your a lawyer I believe so you already know that it is possible for a gay person to adopt and soon it will be possible for gay couples to adopt
its not as though the country is overflowing with unwanted babies (we had several referenda to export that problem). One might suppose that babies are as available as points on a supervalu reward card from the noise of the past few months.

Eh no. You have to be married (straight marriage) to adopt in Ireland as it stands... and if the woman dies after adoption is agreed the husband cannot adopt. That is Irish law - men can't be dads but fuck it if they are gay who cares. That gap is what pisses me off. Never wonder why most adoptions are of foreign children?

Yet they will never take a kid away from a junkie family who spend all child benefit on heroin (which I see many Tuesdays near where I live). Fuckign disgrace.

[B_B_C]

Yet they will never take a kid away from a junkie family who spend all child benefit on heroin (which I see many Tuesdays near where I live). Fuckign disgrace.

one of the consequences of the constitutional family perhaps
meanwhile http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/outgoing-adoption-americas-unseen-export-children-black-84084
oddly enough it was Aanbolicdude  who alerted me to this site but ironically not the article

[Lustral]

I should probably add that before any training, work or anything I am a single father who has experienced the full shittiness of Irish law as it stands against single fathers. Mother hounds you down as the father then doesn't put your name as father on birth cert? OK. Break up with mother after four years (unmarried) and have access withdrawn on a whim? OK. Get court order on access, guardianship and legal custody? Fuck it, she can break it at will without repercussions but don't forget to pay that maintenance!

Yeah, equality all right.

[OlympiaGym]

homosexuality is not only contrary to Christian teachings but natural law I see nothing to celebrate in its acceptance by modern, western society

Whats next? Acceptance of pedophilia? After all some people are attracted to juveniles why shouldn't they be allowed to follow their natural urges it is madness

Racial equality is another canard the races are not equal

[Primemuscle]

I understand that this is the first step to legality of incest also ? (father- daughter, both of legal age can marry to now?)

This seems like quite a leap.

[B_B_C]

I understand that this is the first step to legality of incest also ? (father- daughter, both of legal age can marry to now?)

its truly amazing what I can learn about my own country even as I live in it from people who probably don't know where it is on a world map let alone ever been there

[honest]

Let them marry who cares, but adoption isn't just about them its a about a child and the child's rights need to be considered as well as their own.

[Primemuscle]

Let them marry who cares, but adoption isn't just about them its a about a child and the child's rights need to be considered as well as their own.

How many children do you suppose grow up in imperfect households and families? I'd bet there are millions. I'd bet having "two dads" or "two moms" is far better than a childhood that's spent growing up in foster homes or living with abusive parents.

Ozzie and Harriet were considered the epitome of the ideal parents and come to find out, they were not exactly as portrayed on the TV show. So much for ideals.

[HTexan]

How many children do you suppose grow up in imperfect households and families? I'd bet there are millions. I'd bet having "two dads" or "two moms" is far better than a childhood that's spent growing up in foster homes or living with abusive parents.

Ozzie and Harriet were consider the epitome of the ideal parents and come to find out, they were not exactly as portrayed on the T.V. show. So much for ideals.

This. A lot of kids need homes because their bio parents are fucktards.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Let them marry who cares, but adoption isn't just about them its a about a child and the child's rights need to be considered as well as their own.

where do you think a little wiggs living in a orphins home in some poor country in africa or a musclecenter junior in bumfuck poor asian country where they dont have any food or medicin have it best, at the orphinhome or at a gay couple in a modern country like ireland, norway north korea etc?

[spotter]

The end of the white man is near when we sanction evil

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32858501

My deepest sympathy......

[Kim Jong Bob]

Ask yourself....what would jerry do

[Teutonic Knight]

Nabba should have Irish gay class at Mr. U 2015


 

[thegamechanger]

like being irish is anything to be proud of, its up up their with being gambian or polish