Is boxer Anthony Joshua carrying invisible rolls of carpet?

[SuperTed]

I would have more confidence in his ability to fight if he was from The United States.

You guys got Wilder. Maybe in a few years there will be a UK Vs US battle between AJ and DW for the belts?

[El Diablo Blanco]

He's a heavyweight?  Looks to be about 160

[The Abdominal Snoman]

[local hero]

He's a heavyweight?  Looks to be about 160

He's 6'6.... In real life he's huge, he boxes at around 250 , ripped...

[Darren Avey]

Being a "real athlete" don't make you a true fighter.

[geeizback]

darren

I used to know sean murphy who trained him as an amateur

sean was a decent pro and lost a world title fight to steve robinson so knows his onions

he said he saw more in a year out of AJ than he has seen in any fighter in terms of taking to it like a duck to water

he only started boxing in 2007 and won the senior ABA's in under 3 years in his 18th amateur fight

you may not like him as a bloke but there is no doubting his talent.

what I will say is this- stabler won't even get near to getting a round sparring with him. each month Josh is training and looking after himself stabler is doing nothing. the gap will grow wider. the difference between someone who can knock people out at a club or a low ranking MMA contest is streets apart from even a journeyman pro boxer in the ring.

your 'hero' the uber bully lenny Mclean got sparked by george langley. who?? exactly. the main reason people done the unlicenced is for quick money when they aren't good enough at boxing. dominic negus for example lost to audley harrison and was meant to be a decent unlicensed fighter. but he lost to audley.

as I say a world of difference.

 

[geeizback]

completely agree

when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.

trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.

a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.

my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring.  suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.

[local hero]

completely agree

when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.

trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.

a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.

my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring.  suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.

Well said, all the old 'names' from up tho end were British level pros or higher level amatures and they ruled, can you imagine how good you have to be actual world class, different levels...

[geeizback]

I sparred with a well known boxer from our city as he was rising up his early pro days. He was doing the last round of a 15 round sparring session.

He looked so easy to hit.

I couldn't get near him.

His speed in and out was scary and his movement was deceptive. it was like a dance- everything I tried he countered or I landed on his gloves. He lost in a world title contest to a famous boxer. Different league completely.

Local hero you are bang on- The likes of hagler/ lewis/ ray leonard / chavez. supremely talented hard hard bastards.

[Darren Avey]

If Trevor Currie with all due respect to him could do that what would Tyson or Liston or Foreman do.

[oldtimer1]

Don't believe the hype with this guy until he is tested. He has fought a long string of bum journey men.

[Darren Avey]

There is a lot of talk on the interweb that Stabler and AJ have sparred and Stabler got the better of him, apparently someone at Dale Youth witnessed this. It was on boxingforum24 or checkhookboxing.

[geeizback]

darren dead right about trevor!

that sort of brought it home to me massively.

he said the hardest puncher he ever sparred with was bruno. by a mile apparently. headaches even with a headboard. it always made me laugh when people would say 'i'd get in the ring with tyson for 20mill'. you wouldn't. you'd spend it all on carers and nappies.

[GraniteCityDon]

Chris Eubank Jr apparently dominates everyone in sparring but has yet to fully look the part against quality opposition in the ring. I believe he will come good, just needs more time.

Herol Graham was literally untouchable, embarrassed Eubank Sr for a week and was caught with 1 punch on the last session. Benn openly stated he would never have gotten in there with him because he would have been swiping at thin air, its my belief he is the best boxer to never gain a world title. He is best remembered for the punch he took from The Hawk - IMO the lb for lb hardest puncher boxing ever had - and not for the 4 round demolition he gave to him when the fight was seconds away from being stopped.

[bigmc]

I sparred with a well known boxer from our city as he was rising up his early pro days. He was doing the last round of a 15 round sparring session.

He looked so easy to hit.

I couldn't get near him.

His speed in and out was scary and his movement was deceptive. it was like a dance- everything I tried he countered or I landed on his gloves. He lost in a world title contest to a famous boxer. Different league completely.

Local hero you are bang on- The likes of hagler/ lewis/ ray leonard / chavez. supremely talented hard hard bastards.

do you know the devil G

[GraniteCityDon]

The Frenchman, bad bad guy back in the day. I know a few people who mixed in those circles back in the 80s and they said he was the real deal, scariest guy you could meet.

[bigmc]

The Frenchman, bad bad guy back in the day. I know a few people who mixed in those circles back in the 80s and they said he was the real deal, scariest guy you could meet.

G probably knows him

I watched a documentary about him called the tax man

seems the allegation is he turned and is wanted on several lists

if you catch my drift

[GraniteCityDon]

the julian jackson punch is one of the most shocking of all time haha, Herol was out before he even hit the canvas.  I met herol graham before, he's a funny guy, still a bit mental though. In his book he talks about sparring Roberto Duran and pissing him off so much by all his slipping and running antics, that Duran took a meltdown and had him thrown out the gym.
 The punchers like benn, jackson, shavers etc, these were the guys i always tried to emulate as a young boxer, it made for some pretty funny amateur bouts.
  

thats quite a list, all 3 absolute power punchers with Shavers being God & Jackson the Archangel Julian. Benn was a huge banger but i dont think he was near Jackson or even McClellan for raw power.

[GraniteCityDon]

G probably knows him

I watched a documentary about him called the tax man

seems the allegation is he turned and is wanted on several lists

if you catch my drift

yeah hes labelled a grass now, but then hes lost his closest to guns so you wouldnt blame him to the anti-gun campaigns. As far as the grassing, depends on what it is. Hes been both sides of the fence & is known to be wanted dead, as hes inside nows the ideal time. If he can still go, they better go at him mob handed.

[bicepsofsteel]

completely agree

when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.

trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.

a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.

my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring.  suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.

which of these dudes is currie?

[Donny]

Nigel Benn ex RR Fusiliers Army Boxer. British Army Boxing is the best.

[GraniteCityDon]

Jackson's definitely one of the greatest punchers of all time, along with shavers, but i dont think benn get's enough credit for his punching power alone. I think the ring magazine's got him somewhere stupid on their list of 100 greatest punchers, but they've based it off of the KO's and TKO's recorded on a guy's record which means that they've ranked guys with a lot of late stoppages, and accumlative punch KO's over long careers, higher than some real, one punch KO artists.
Benn wasn't the greatest boxer in the world, so against the highest competition he didn't look quite as impressive, but just for sheer one punch, put you unconscious power, there's not that many that i would rank higher...Jackson i do though! Mclellan i don't speak of because i hate him with a passion!

Im not a fan of McLellan purely down to the piece of shit human being he was. I try not to be judgemental to people i dont know personally but the things he did, i have no sympathy for his current circumstances. As a power puncher Benn was right up there, Jackson was all by himself IMO.

Underrated power punchers - Bruno tops my list. So heavy handed and yet hes remembered for the Tyson defeats. Throw in Herbie Hide also, serious KO artist.

[GraniteCityDon]

Frank seems like a genuine guy, perhaps a little too nice to be considered a great. Had the punch, had the appearance but was just an absolute gentleman that needed an evil streak or killer instinct tp take him further than he went. Saying that, WBC HW champ of the world is nothing to balk at 

[Donny]

Boxing training is the hardest training in the world. You train your body to take punishment and dish it out. I loved it.

[Flexacon]

Away from his public image and the cameras, Bruno had a bit of a bully boy attitude. I can remember him once putting Chris Eubank in his place and you could see his dark side.