Author Topic: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?  (Read 9557 times)

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just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 05:22:36 PM »
Go eat a bag of shit.
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 05:23:39 PM »
just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings

Stop being so fucking nosey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2015, 05:43:50 PM »
just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings



Payments in cash or cashiers check are unlikely to be reported.  Most of them used to use Paypal because they didn't report anything and they were not a bank.  Nowadays its back to Western Union
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 06:53:36 PM »
just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings

People that don't report earnings are stupid. You don't fuck with the IRS.
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 07:15:09 PM »
People that don't report earnings are stupid. You don't fuck with the IRS.


If its in cash, its very hard to approve.  Simply don't deposit more than 10k at a time although you could set yourself for asset seizures
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 07:52:34 PM »
Most getbiggers do not bother with deposits under $10,000 or debts under $600.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2015, 08:06:38 PM »

If its in cash, its very hard to approve.  Simply don't deposit more than 10k at a time although you could set yourself for asset seizures

You have evidently never been a target of the IRS... I can assure you that they have absolutely no problem "proving" anything... They can seize all bank records with no problem in an audit. The "anything under 10K is safe" is an actual joke in financial circles...

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 08:08:49 PM »

If its in cash, its very hard to approve.  Simply don't deposit more than 10k at a time although you could set yourself for asset seizures

1.) The auto report to the IRS isn't 10k anymore. It has been lowered for years now.
2.) the IRS WILL compare expenses to earnings.

You own a business right? Any CPA or real business owner will tell you not to fuck with the IRS. You keep playing that game Melvin. Let us know went the IRS audits you, so we can laugh and publicity shame you.
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2015, 08:18:22 PM »
just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings


You make a good point about them getting credit while under claiming their income. Thing is, creditors would not report a person's income unless they were asked to do so by the IRS.

Lot's of folks who are self-employed under claim their incomes to avoid paying higher taxes. The way they might get caught is when they claim the interest on a huge mortgage and the high property tax on an expensive home. When expenses and income don't jive, the IRS gets suspicious and then you're in deep trouble. Tax fraud can get you prison time.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2015, 08:22:50 PM »
2.) the IRS WILL compare expenses to earnings.

You own a business right? Any CPA or real business owner will tell you not to fuck with the IRS. You keep playing that game Melvin. Let us know went the IRS audits you, so we can laugh and publicity shame you.

Melvin did give the impression he under claims his income to the IRS. Anyone who does this is a fool.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2015, 08:27:27 PM »
just wondering how people like charles glass who is 16 hours per day in the gym training clienTs-declare their earnings to the IRS

+brad rowe training 10 clients a day each is 100$ and then he doesnt have the money for plane ticket to fly to russia to compete (shawn rhoden gave him the money)

+pj braun making 1700$ a prep (with 220 clients) and then crying he is selling the car cause it will lose 10k value etc etc

just curious how to they show their money if they are buying a house and they dont declare all the earnings


Suck my balls.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2015, 08:29:13 PM »
1.) The auto report to the IRS isn't 10k anymore. It has been lowered for years now.
2.) the IRS WILL compare expenses to earnings.

You own a business right? Any CPA or real business owner will tell you not to fuck with the IRS. You keep playing that game Melvin. Let us know went the IRS audits you, so we can laugh and publicity shame you.

Fuck that I won't laugh - lol... Those cocksuckers will surely figure out who is laughing and come turn my world upside down AGAIN.. seriously - never again is too soon...  
Melvin - seriously man.. I am not just being an ass.. If your CPA is telling you cash is safe please at least talk to another. Do NOT bargain hunt with your CPA or when hiring a staff accountant. They are worth the money

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2015, 08:30:36 PM »
1.) The auto report to the IRS isn't 10k anymore. It has been lowered for years now.
2.) the IRS WILL compare expenses to earnings.

You own a business right? Any CPA or real business owner will tell you not to fuck with the IRS. You keep playing that game Melvin. Let us know went the IRS audits you, so we can laugh and publicity shame you.


The majority of my payments are credit card and Paypal so I really can't play that game with the IRS.  I also report all of my revenue from my businesses outside the US
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2015, 08:33:49 PM »
You make a good point about them getting credit while under claiming their income. Thing is, creditors would not report a person's income unless they were asked to do so by the IRS.

Lot's of folks who are self-employed under claim their incomes to avoid paying higher taxes. The way they might get caught is when they claim the interest on a huge mortgage and the high property tax on an expensive home. When expenses and income don't jive, the IRS gets suspicious and then you're in deep trouble. Tax fraud can get you prison time.

Actually on every mortgage now there is a 4506T pulled and if it doesn't match returns or the income that the borrower states - its supposed to be reported. People dont realize - deductions absolutely reduce your income when getting a mortgage.. For instance. If a borrower is a W2 employee earning 150,000 / year - but claims a 75,000 deduction on a side business... Income used for the loan is only 75,000... And there is no way to hide it because as I said the 4506T will show deductions that were claimed to the IRS..  

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2015, 08:35:10 PM »
Melvin did give the impression he under claims his income to the IRS. Anyone who does this is a fool.

Yes sir you are dead on balls right - just asking for trouble

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2015, 08:50:43 PM »

The majority of my payments are credit card and Paypal so I really can't play that game with the IRS.  I also report all of my revenue from my businesses outside the US
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2015, 10:23:55 PM »
1.) The auto report to the IRS isn't 10k anymore. It has been lowered for years now.
2.) the IRS WILL compare expenses to earnings.

You own a business right? Any CPA or real business owner will tell you not to fuck with the IRS. You keep playing that game Melvin.Let us know went the IRS audits you, so we can laugh and publicity shame you.

Will the irs really Persue melvin over not declaring his $33.76 monthly income?

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 10:24:55 PM »
Actually on every mortgage now there is a 4506T pulled and if it doesn't match returns or the income that the borrower states - its supposed to be reported. People dont realize - deductions absolutely reduce your income when getting a mortgage.. For instance. If a borrower is a W2 employee earning 150,000 / year - but claims a 75,000 deduction on a side business... Income used for the loan is only 75,000... And there is no way to hide it because as I said the 4506T will show deductions that were claimed to the IRS..  

Like I said, it is a very bad idea to mess with the IRS.

I am not in a position to hide my income or my assets. Therefore I pay what is due. Not that I enjoy it.

My stepdad was a business owner. He only reported a portion of what he actually earned. This was a long time ago. He still ended up screwing himself, when he was no longer able to work and had to rely on SSI to make ends meet, his SSI award was not much since it's based on reported income and paid SSI taxes. Not that anyone can actually survive on SSI anyway.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2015, 10:55:24 PM »
Op an undercover for the IRS

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2015, 12:36:12 AM »

The majority of my payments are credit card and Paypal so I really can't play that game with the IRS.  I also report all of my revenue from my businesses outside the US

Haha, just shut up already. Go to bed, you're on the 3am to 3pm shift.
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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2015, 12:41:14 AM »
Yes, they pay taxes. If you claim $75000 and make $150000 make damn sure you live like you make $75k. If you take the other $75k in cash and don't claim it and live like you make $150k, be prepared for an audit. In short, claim everything.

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Re: Do personal trainers pay taxes on their clientele earnings?
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2015, 05:27:14 AM »
Do NOT bargain hunt with your CPA or when hiring a staff accountant. They are worth the money

Bullshit.  Professional accountancy is worthless for individuals or small business and that's 99% of us.  

You're forever running around town delivering receipts and picking them up again. All they do is input numbers and =sum(x:x1) at the bottom, then act like they performed some secret voodoo ritual while they hand you the invoice.  Anyone with 1/2 a brain can base a freeware spreadsheet on the return's categories and import the data from their online bank.  Expenditure: $0.