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Afraid to bench now
« on: June 04, 2015, 07:48:44 PM »
They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.

Now I know the REAL reason most bbers  use machines. Its not because they're pussies or too lazy theyre literally too strong for their frame. phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press, he just doesn't have the frame to have that kind of weight in his hands. A stocky guy like OTH who posts here can handle that because  of his frame

Cant believe I joined this powerlifting gym what a waste of money. All I got was a few reps on my bench and possibly a  torn pec. And I think the increase in my bench had more to do with the music they play than anything. Back to a commercial  gym for me  8)
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 07:57:04 PM »
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2015, 08:09:52 PM »
I think you still need to use some free weights though. Maybe bench at the end of your workout so you won't go so heavy?

But what you say here does make sense. Most really good bb'ers don't have big frames, so the fact they press, push, pull what they do is already a feat in itself.

Of course the gear has an enormous impact, but they still bust ass.
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2015, 08:33:38 PM »
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2015, 08:35:57 PM »
Only cases I've ever seen where peoples tendons and ligaments literally couldn't match their muscle output was when they were on heavy cycles and not coming close to handling that sort of weight beforehand. You probably didn't spend much time lifting heavy and building them up beforehand and now when they're put under strain they don't handle it well. The real reason bodybuilders use machine is in fact due to being lazy pussies btw.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2015, 09:15:56 PM »
Praying 4 ur pec.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2015, 09:34:30 PM »
They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.

Now I know the REAL reason most bbers  use machines. Its not because they're pussies or too lazy theyre literally too strong for their frame. phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press, he just doesn't have the frame to have that kind of weight in his hands. A stocky guy like OTH who posts here can handle that because  of his frame

Cant believe I joined this powerlifting gym what a waste of money. All I got was a few reps on my bench and possibly a  torn pec. And I think the increase in my bench had more to do with the music they play than anything. Back to a commercial  gym for me  8)

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if you started while you were still going through puberty, then you are most likely 100 on your self diagnosis. teenage juicers' skeletons stop growing normally.....young, developing bones aren't meant for that kind of beating, but would normally do just fine if the growth cycle went uninterrupted.  when exogenous androgens are introduced, they have the potential to stop the entire pubescent process so your growth plates end up shutting prematurely and you stay with the bone structure/strength of _ _ year old for life. I've seen it a few times.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 02:24:28 AM »
I've been building my stregth for many years before I went on the juice. Small bones, small joints, but I have some serious power in these and I feel pretty comfortable moving heavy weights as tendons/ligaments have been accustomed well over a long time and "step by step" kind of progress, while guys who are bigger than me are scratching their heads (they are bigger just because they are on more stuff and they are weaker because they did it sooner than it's needed).

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 02:49:27 AM »
I've been building my stregth for many years before I went on the juice. Small bones, small joints, but I have some serious power in these and I feel pretty comfortable moving heavy weights as tendons/ligaments have been accustomed well over a long time and "step by step" kind of progress, while guys who are bigger than me are scratching their heads (they are bigger just because they are on more stuff and they are weaker because they did it sooner than it's needed).

More likely that they are just genetically weaker. Some guys just can't get real strong no matter how big they get.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 02:50:55 AM »
phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 03:12:22 AM »
More likely that they are just genetically weaker. Some guys just can't get real strong no matter how big they get.

I'm sure that's the case too sometimes, tho' from my long time in the gym and observations I made, it's often these guys who were not patient enough and jumped on th sauce right away. Muscles hypertrophied fast and ligaments stayed approx. the same, thus CNS does not let the strength to be generated by these new muscles or something like that (complete guess, I don't know if that is how it exactly works irl).

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 03:28:53 AM »
Stick with 275 if thats comfortable and do sets of 20

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 04:43:02 AM »
My guess is you probably just lie down on the bench and unrack the bar without locking your pelvis and retracting shoulder blades?

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2015, 06:32:28 AM »
They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.


Do yourself a big favor, get it checked out by a doctor before training chest again.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2015, 06:43:59 AM »
Do you think THIS guy is afraid to bench???


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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2015, 06:44:52 AM »
Do you think THIS guy is afraid to bench???



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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2015, 07:18:00 AM »
They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.

Now I know the REAL reason most bbers  use machines. Its not because they're pussies or too lazy theyre literally too strong for their frame. phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press, he just doesn't have the frame to have that kind of weight in his hands. A stocky guy like OTH who posts here can handle that because  of his frame

Cant believe I joined this powerlifting gym what a waste of money. All I got was a few reps on my bench and possibly a  torn pec. And I think the increase in my bench had more to do with the music they play than anything. Back to a commercial  gym for me  8)

Basic , heavy free wt movements like benchpress require stabilizing while performing.
This can offer more stress on the muscle but greatly increase the tension on tendons and smaller stabilizing connective tissue.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2015, 09:44:56 AM »
Fuck the bench press

Dumbbells are your friend, pause every rep and take two seconds to lower on the negative and you'll be fine. ive not had any pec or shoulder issues in the last two years since I dropped the flat barbell even though I used perfect form on that (if you remember my vid when you called me out lol)

Aspire to be like joon and incline the 130s for 10 perfect reps

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2015, 10:03:23 AM »
21 is way too young to already have aches and pains...

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2015, 10:06:11 AM »
In short you have no idea how to use a weight to stimulate the muscle.

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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2015, 10:28:19 AM »
In short you have no idea how to use a weight to stimulate the muscle.
.  A muscle either contracts or it doesn't. There is no such thing as lifting with your joints and tendons and not using the muscle there is only using certain muscles on certain lifts more than others. The reason why pec tears are so common is most bodybuilders have pecs much stronger than their arms when it should be the opposite. To prove my point How often do you hear of a guy tearing a tricep benching almost never.  The tricep work most of us do in body holding routines only hits the long head of the tricep but it's the area right underneath the elbow that is responsible for big benches...and the only thing that really trains this are in presses dumbbell rolling extensions and close grip benches which most of us don't do.  Unless younare implying that I bounce the bar of my chest which I don't I lower the bar slow and controlled.
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2015, 10:32:51 AM »
Do you think THIS guy is afraid to bench???



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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2015, 10:38:57 AM »
I haven`t benched in years and my pecs grew like crazy.


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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2015, 10:43:37 AM »
Stick with 275 if thats comfortable and do sets of 20
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Re: Afraid to bench now
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2015, 10:50:45 AM »
I haven`t benched in years and my pecs grew like crazy.


.  What do you do for them? Flies never did shit for me....I'm thinking about taking up the hammer machine.
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