Afraid to bench now

[flinstones1]

Fuck the bench press

Dumbbells are your friend, pause every rep and take two seconds to lower on the negative and you'll be fine. ive not had any pec or shoulder issues in the last two years since I dropped the flat barbell even though I used perfect form on that (if you remember my vid when you called me out lol)

Aspire to be like joon and incline the 130s for 10 perfect reps

.  Haha yes I remember u owned me that day pretty good.   

[Fortress]

I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps, but anything over 275 feels like it's too much for my tendons and ligaments. The other day I strained my pec benching 315, on the first rep. Now I know the REAL reason most bodybuilders use machines. Phil Heath could easily bench 500-550. He proved this with his 225 for 40.

1.) It's called you're-on-gas-and-you-haven't-earned-the-poundage-you're-lifting, dork.

2.) Heath would be pinned under 500. Five-fifty?! Call EMS. Him pressing 225 for 40 doesn't equate to what you're suggesting, Mr. Know-Nothing. In fact, I don't care how many reps someone can do with 225: If you don't train to handle excess weight, no amount of reps with a sub-sub poundage is gonna prevent total failure/disaster under a seriously huge load.

Final Note: You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop all juicing and educate yourself. Several years of drug-free lifting should start you toward this goal.

Hope this helps.

[flinstones1]

1.) It's called you're-on-gas-and-you-haven't-earned-the-poundage-you're-lifting, dork.

2.) Heath would be pinned under 500. Five-fifty?! Call EMS. Him pressing 225 for 40 doesn't equate to what you're suggesting, Mr. Know-Nothing. In fact, I don't care how many reps someone can do with 225: If you don't train to handle excess weight, no amount of reps with a sub-sub poundage is gonna prevent total failure/disaster under a seriously huge load.

Final Note: You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop all juicing and educate yourself. Several years of drug-free lifting should start you toward this goal.

Hope this helps.

.  Funny, there was a study done on  in division 1 college football players and there was a correlation between 225 rep test and a lifters one rep max.  Add to the fact that these guys are  more white fiber dominant and have far more fast twitch muscle fibers than the average guy you can easily make the argument that a lifters 225 reps test is an great prediction of his max.  When o could hit 225 for 25 my max bench was 385...when my 225 went up to 30 my max did as well. Another powerlifter who can't come to terms with the fact that most pro bodybuilders are as strong as some pretty damn good powerlifters.  

[wes]

.  What do you do for them? Flies never did shit for me....I'm thinking about taking up the hammer machine.

Yup,heavy flyes and Smith Inclines.


Try doing Flyes first,then right into a set of benches.........pre-exhaust.

Less chance of injury as you won`t be able to go as heavy but it`ll still stimulate pec growth.

Hope you`re OK dude! 

[wes]

1.) It's called you're-on-gas-and-you-haven't-earned-the-poundage-you're-lifting, dork.

2.) Heath would be pinned under 500. Five-fifty?! Call EMS. Him pressing 225 for 40 doesn't equate to what you're suggesting, Mr. Know-Nothing. In fact, I don't care how many reps someone can do with 225: If you don't train to handle excess weight, no amount of reps with a sub-sub poundage is gonna prevent total failure/disaster under a seriously huge load.

Final Note: You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop all juicing and educate yourself. Several years of drug-free lifting should start you toward this goal.

Hope this helps.

[Fortress]

.  Funny, there was a study done on  in division 1 college football players and there was a correlation between 225 rep test and a lifters one rep max.  Add to the fact that these guys are  more white fiber dominant and have far more fast twitch muscle fibers than the average guy you can easily make the argument that a lifters 225 reps test is an great prediction of his max.  When o could hit 225 for 25 my max bench was when my 225 went up my max did as well. Another powerlifter who can't come to terms with the fact that most pro bodybuilders are as strong as some pretty damn good powerlifters.  

What's funny?

Anyway ... Yes, reps, for the general weight-training masses, are a good rough guide to a 1RM. But NOT when considering a veteran strength athlete with a huge capacity. Still a passable ROUGH guide. But the accuracy will be extremely hit-and-miss.

I began my weight-training career as a competitive bodybuilder. And I have lifted with and observed many of the most well-known IFBB pros, so don't start down this road, friend. Without QUESTION there are some freakishly strong bodybuilders. Always has been. I am far from the guy who'd ever suggest otherwise.

Understand the context, my man.  

 

[Dr Dutch]

Since my supraspinatus tear I rely on slow DB presses, 15-20 reps. Plus slow flies...that is how I keep my shoulders happy. 

[Nirvana]

Praying 4 ur pec.

x2

[shiftedShapes]

They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.

Now I know the REAL reason most bbers  use machines. Its not because they're pussies or too lazy theyre literally too strong for their frame. phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press, he just doesn't have the frame to have that kind of weight in his hands. A stocky guy like OTH who posts here can handle that because  of his frame

Cant believe I joined this powerlifting gym what a waste of money. All I got was a few reps on my bench and possibly a  torn pec. And I think the increase in my bench had more to do with the music they play than anything. Back to a commercial  gym for me 

Your problem is that your form is likely shitty and you are using a weight that is way too heavy.  I would be shocked if you posted a video of 10 reps (let alone 15) with 315 and proper form.  That means a pause on the chest no momentum during the movement and complete lock out every rep.

[oldtimer1]

Many times juice can increase you muscle strength faster than your tendon strength. I know it sounds very bro science but guys have added 100lbs in the bench in 6 weeks of juicing.

Lower the weight and do slow cadence lifting. Three seconds up and three seconds down. It will lower the weight but is safer than the normal bodybuilding rep cadence. If you can lift as much as you wrote you're incredibly strong. Regarding Heath is there a video of him doing 40 reps in the bench. Find that hard to believe.

[oldtimer1]

Never mind about Heath. Just watched the video and he's doing half reps.

[Fortress]

Many times juice can increase you muscle strength faster than your tendon strength. I know it sounds very bro science but guys have added 100lbs in the bench in 6 weeks of juicing.

Lower the weight and do slow cadence lifting. Three seconds up and three seconds down. It will lower the weight but is safer than the normal bodybuilding rep cadence. If you can lift as much as you wrote you're incredibly strong. Regarding Heath is there a video of him doing 40 reps in the bench. Find that hard to believe.

I totally believe Heath can hit upward of 40 reps with 225. I'm drug-free and could approximate (not 40, so don't get your knickers in a knot) such a feat.

Regardless, to suggest Phil could "easily" press 5-550 is pure ignorance. The author of this idiotic statement is probably one of those guys who believe Arnold could bench 500 in his heyday.

P.S. There's nothing "bro science" about the statement that, with steroid use, muscles strengthen, but tendons, etc. do not (from the excess hormones). It's ABSOLUTELY why a majority of major injuries in weight training happen to lifters who are using. 

 

[DanM]

Like said earlier this young flintstone guy hasn't put in the years and earned his poundage's rather instead going heavy on the sauce and because of it is handling weight he's not ready for, then is left wondering why his joints and tendons can't keep up.

[Fortress]

Like said earlier this young flintstone guy hasn't put in the years and earned his poundage's rather instead going heavy on the sauce and because of it is handling weight he's not ready for, then wondering why his joints and tendons can't keep up.

The cockwhistle fucks his pec on the first rep of a set with a poundage that he says is so light he can hit it for 10-15.

Oh brother  

Three months prior, when he was not using, he was likely hitting crummy-ass reps with 185.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[flinstones1]

Your problem is that your form is likely shitty and you are using a weight that is way too heavy.  I would be shocked if you posted a video of 10 reps (let alone 15) with 315 and proper form.  That means a pause on the chest no momentum during the movement and complete lock out every rep.

LOL There is a video I posted  over a year ago hitting 315 for 7 with no spot and more in the tank.....I  weighed 205-208. . Im over 220 pounds now of course I could bench alot more.

I control the negative yes but  no Im sorry I dont "pause my reps" when doing high rep sets ...not one guy  I know does  .  

[ritch]

Many times juice can increase you muscle strength faster than your tendon strength. I know it sounds very bro science but guys have added 100lbs in the bench in 6 weeks of juicing.

Lower the weight and do slow cadence lifting. Three seconds up and three seconds down. It will lower the weight but is safer than the normal bodybuilding rep cadence. If you can lift as much as you wrote you're incredibly strong. Regarding Heath is there a video of him doing 40 reps in the bench. Find that hard to believe.

they should have gone 12 weeks to add 200lbs. Joint problems? Add deca. All is good...

[The True Adonis]

In three years, when you are 22 years old, you may try bench presses again.  Until then, stick to dumbbells.

[flinstones1]

Many times juice can increase you muscle strength faster than your tendon strength. I know it sounds very bro science but guys have added 100lbs in the bench in 6 weeks of juicing.

Lower the weight and do slow cadence lifting. Three seconds up and three seconds down. It will lower the weight but is safer than the normal bodybuilding rep cadence. If you can lift as much as you wrote you're incredibly strong. Regarding Heath is there a video of him doing 40 reps in the bench. Find that hard to believe.

No they dont, only newbs maybe...The average natural dedicated bodybuilder  benches what 275-315? I dont know many guys benching 375 after their first 6 week cycle, hell most guys wont even reach 405 after years of use. We got guys on here who are proof of that. I actually know more guys that juicer who bench less than 315 than those that bench more

[latiuss]

Like said earlier this young flintstone guy hasn't put in the years and earned his poundage's rather instead going heavy on the sauce and because of it is handling weight he's not ready for, then is left wondering why his joints and tendons can't keep up.

Flint is strong bro

[local hero]

In short you have no idea how to use a weight to stimulate the muscle.

Exactly... Slow it down, squeeze, contract, watch your poundage's plummet and your aches go away

[Bevo]

Flint is strong bro

Average for a juicer really. Weighing 200+ and benching 315 isn't impressive imo

Come down to my gym at destination Dallas and u have lots of guys weighing in the 170's to 180's doing 315 for 6-10 solid reps and some in the low 400's for one rep maxs weighing 190's to 200's.. And these aren't powerlifters either, but competitive bbers and physique competitors

Like I said not impressive for a juicer and someone that is dedicated

Stop the juice and watch how much his strength plummets

Like some say, his tendons and joints dont seem strong enough to handle that kind of weight

[Rami]

Weight training is playing with fire. At any given rep. Like any limited mechanical item a tendon will break if the force is to big. Especially concerning is the biceps. The force placed on these tendon attachments, what it takes to move the arm this way with a heavy weight at the very end, the way the tendon sits in the body makes you wonder how it's even possible.

We just assume that nothing bad will "probably" happen. It's such an unnatural way of using the body really. The isolation movements bodybuilders do are made to put the most force possible on a single tendon and sometimes in the most vulnerable position.

[Simple Simon]

how old are you really mr. forever 21?
when did you start juicing? BE HONEST!

if you started while you were still going through puberty, then you are most likely 100 on your self diagnosis. teenage juicers' skeletons stop growing normally.....young, developing bones aren't meant for that kind of beating, but would normally do just fine if the growth cycle went uninterrupted.  when exogenous androgens are introduced, they have the potential to stop the entire pubescent process so your growth plates end up shutting prematurely and you stay with the bone structure/strength of _ _ year old for life. I've seen it a few times.

Guys first posts here were about gear in 2009.
If he is as old as he says hes been juicing since he was 15/16

[robcguns]

I totally believe Heath can hit upward of 40 reps with 225. I'm drug-free and could approximate (not 40, so don't get your knickers in a knot) such a feat.

Regardless, to suggest Phil could "easily" press 5-550 is pure ignorance. The author of this idiotic statement is probably one of those guys who believe Arnold could bench 500 in his heyday.

P.S. There's nothing "bro science" about the statement that, with steroid use, muscles strengthen, but tendons, etc. do not (from the excess hormones). It's ABSOLUTELY why a majority of major injuries in weight training happen to lifters who are using. 

 

i have benced 495 and when iid it i could do 225 around 30 times.Then when i was able to do 225 40 times i was benching around 425.Repping 225 doesnt equate to huge bench from what i have seen.i know a guy who can bench 225 for 6-8 and maxes at 350 soooo.

[funk51]

They say in order to avoid injury use light weights that you can do at least 10-15 reps with. The problem is the weights I can do 10-15 reps with are heavy as fuck. I feel like Im too strong for my genetic frame..how do i say this. I can bench 315 for 10-15 reps these days ...but anything over 275 on the bar feels like its too much for my tendons and ligaments  make sense fellas? Almost like the connective tissue can't support the weight when I unrack it in my hands. The other day I strained my pec benching 315 on the first rep of my working set. I dont think I tore it because there is no bruising but I cant even bench the fucking bar right now.

Now I know the REAL reason most bbers  use machines. Its not because they're pussies or too lazy theyre literally too strong for their frame. phil heath could easily bench 500-550 and he proved this with his 225 for 40 bench press, he just doesn't have the frame to have that kind of weight in his hands. A stocky guy like OTH who posts here can handle that because  of his frame

Cant believe I joined this powerlifting gym what a waste of money. All I got was a few reps on my bench and possibly a  torn pec. And I think the increase in my bench had more to do with the music they play than anything. Back to a commercial  gym for me 

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