Author Topic: Akido, Steven Seagal, painful (Read 16237 times)

pellius · « **on:** June 05, 2015, 06:46:04 PM »

Painful to watch. True Seagal is 63 years old but when you look at guys like Norris and Stallone he seems like he can hardly move. Just lumbers around. I like his
look though. Looks like a bad ass. Big and burly. I think he's about 6'5".

I studied Akido for about two years starting from the age of 8 years. Trying to apply it in real life situations I realized that it is an utterly useless martial art.
Maybe it was effective during Ueshiba's time but ever since they took out no holds bar training and choreograph everything it's become so watered down that it actually is worse than useless because it's practitioners actually believe they can defend themselves.

Every Akido demonstration I've seen is always the same. One guy effortlessly throwing around a bunch of other guys "attacking" in a way that would never happen
in real life. Which is why an Akido practitioner could never defend themselves like that in real life.

Looks great in movies, though.

Hulk-smash! · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:05:44 PM »

All the drugs he did back in 80's F'ed that dude up.

pellius · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:15:09 PM »

Quote from: Crea4Life on June 05, 2015, 07:05:44 PM

All the drugs he did back in 80's F'ed that dude up.

Really? Never heard of this? Do you have a source for this info?

Radical Plato · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:18:12 PM »

What a fucking embarrassment to martial arts. Fat fuck needs to learn to control his appetite.

Hulk-smash! · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:27:40 PM »

Quote from: pellius on June 05, 2015, 07:15:09 PM

Really? Never heard of this? Do you have a source for this info?

The dude is a total F-up. Ask LeBrock, She had to file a restraining order on him. As far as drugs - If you were as popular as he was in the 80s you did coke. Do I know this? No. Most likely has used steroids as well. The dude is psycho bout asian chicks. Huge control freak.

Fortress · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:33:17 PM »

He appears so relaxed while toying with those savage attackers because the man reserves his energies for his time at the buffet.

ritch · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:34:31 PM »

Quote from: Crea4Life on June 05, 2015, 07:27:40 PM

The dude is a total F-up. Ask LeBrock, She had to file a restraining order on him. As far as drugs - If you were as popular as he was in the 80s you did coke. Do I know this? No. Most likely has used steroids as well. The dude is psycho bout asian chicks. Huge control freak.

I can see that. Coke was HUGE back then. You'd be a total square not to be in at the coke buffet...

Hulk-smash! · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:37:51 PM »

http://marriage.about.com/od/entertainmen1/p/stevenseagal.htm
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-11-11/entertainment/ca-61424_1_morning-report
http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/steven_seagal.htm

Radical Plato · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2015, 08:12:40 PM »

wattow · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2015, 08:15:23 PM »

Ai ki do can be an effective art. Only problem is you would have study it for 20 years. I believe there is a better, more effective art, one which would enable you to demolish an attacker without going to the ground. And you could become formidable in 6 months. Dangerous in 2 years.

pellius · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2015, 10:25:21 PM »

Quote from: wattow on June 05, 2015, 08:15:23 PM

Ai ki do can be an effective art. Only problem is you would have study it for 20 years. I believe there is a better, more effective art, one which would enable you to demolish an attacker without going to the ground. And you could become formidable in 6 months. Dangerous in 2 years.

Notice that there are no attacks or even strikes in Aikido. You just stand there and wait for your opponent to rush you, which they rarely do. You never see them go against an opponent that starts moving, jabbing and a throws one of those bitching Chiroflex inspired roundhouse kicks.

Pulling the guard solves everything.

Ropo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:01:23 AM »

Quote from: pellius on June 05, 2015, 06:46:04 PM

Painful to watch. True Seagal is 63 years old but when you look at guys like Norris and Stallone he seems like he can hardly move. Just lumbers around. I like his
look though. Looks like a bad ass. Big and burly. I think he's about 6'5".

I studied Akido for about two years starting from the age of 8 years. Trying to apply it in real life situations I realized that it is an utterly useless martial art.
Maybe it was effective during Ueshiba's time but ever since they took out no holds bar training and choreograph everything it's become so watered down that it actually is worse than useless because it's practitioners actually believe they can defend themselves.

Every Akido demonstration I've seen is always the same. One guy effortlessly throwing around a bunch of other guys "attacking" in a way that would never happen
in real life. Which is why an Akido practitioner could never defend themselves like that in real life.

Looks great in movies, though.

And compared to this?

bigmc · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:22:00 AM »

segal is an old man

back in the day he was respected world wide as martial artist

word is he has had many fights to the death

and knows the secret five finger death punch

I await his debut in the ufc with great eagerness

Svengoolie · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:24:53 AM »

Quote from: wattow on June 05, 2015, 08:15:23 PM

Ai ki do can be an effective art. Only problem is you would have study it for 20 years. I believe there is a better, more effective art, one which would enable you to demolish an attacker without going to the ground. And you could become formidable in 6 months. Dangerous in 2 years.

Which MA is this?

geeizback · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:47:08 AM »

boxing

the most effective easy to pick up martial art going

as you learn the realities of a tear up

and you learn to take a dig and deal with fear and control it

Svengoolie · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:50:17 AM »

Hm. Been wanting to take something up, as I feel with all the time I spend I'm the gym, sometimes it feels pretty much useless

bigmc · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:52:39 AM »

Quote from: geeizback on June 06, 2015, 01:47:08 AM

boxing

the most effective easy to pick up martial art going

as you learn the realities of a tear up

and you learn to take a dig and deal with fear and control it

yep

learning how to take a punch and stay calm is very important

once you've mastered that you will fuck most people up in a fight

ad they will be wildly throwing haymakers and gassing out in ten seconds

Henda · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:08:13 AM »

That segal video is an absolute heap of shit

Donny · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:18:29 AM »

Aikido has many schools and some play more emphasis on Ki.. most being the Aikikai schools. Try Daito Ryu the fore runner of Aikido then tell me it´s soft or Yoshinkan. i come from a Boxing background and am not a dreamer but Aikido is a very deep and spiritual "way".. Do means "way". Later you can embrace the soft internal ways but first you have to understand.

Donny · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:24:15 AM »

Daito Ryu.... a spider catching it´s prey.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:27:14 AM »

UK police learn Akido aspart of their training. Maybe that's why they re so useless.

bigmc · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:28:39 AM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on June 06, 2015, 02:27:14 AM

UK police learn Akido aspart of their training. Maybe that's why they re so useless.

no they don't you dildo

Donny · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:43:43 AM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on June 06, 2015, 02:27:14 AM

UK police learn Akido aspart of their training. Maybe that's why they re so useless.

They taught us in the Army Aikido. Well it was an Army version ...

picture a group of Squadies on a patch of Grass dressed in lightweights, boots and combat jacket nearly fucking up each others wrists..

we also used a small stick like in Kali but shorter. Amazing what you can do with a small stick(no Homo). you learn the nerve points and you can inflict a lot of pain very efficiently. looking back now it was more Jui Jitsu what we learned.

The Onion · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2015, 03:12:39 AM »

Quote from: Ropo on June 06, 2015, 01:01:23 AM

And compared to this?

Aikido seems to be very effective against the slow-mo karate chop punch.

Donny · « **Reply #24 on:** June 06, 2015, 03:52:00 AM »

Quote from: The Onion on June 06, 2015, 03:12:39 AM

Aikido seems to be very effective against the slow-mo karate chop punch.

people look at the way they train in Aikido... they think it´s soft. there are so many factors and principles that i could write a book. you know it´s like Bench pressing, even although a simple move you can do it wrong in many ways. Aikido is about Sabaki.. body movement. Picture a childs spinning top, spins on an Axis, when it comes in contact with an object it propels it...away using centrifugal force. I can only say that in japan Aikido and Kendo are for people who understand.