Author Topic: Deca confusion...  (Read 2810 times)

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4019
  • Getbig!
Deca confusion...
« on: June 07, 2015, 03:50:09 PM »
Does deca increase prolactin?    I thought it was a progestin, and acted like progestin itself.   If so, why would a med that lowered prolactin work to control deca sides of deca doesn't increase prolactin?


Also, any merit of b6 (p5p) which lowers prolactin be of any benefit?
you are gay.

oni

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1095
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2015, 06:52:33 PM »
It always confuses the fuck out of me as so many people say different things
But

You will not get gyno if you have low estrogen controlled with an AI with deca - you may still get deca dick
For removal of all sides - you need cabergoline

That is the long and short of it

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4019
  • Getbig!
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2015, 07:28:06 PM »
What dose of caber is the norm?
you are gay.

oni

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1095
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2015, 08:01:24 PM »
0.25mg twice a week or every 3 days
Mine are 2mg tabs though so I take 0.5mg twice a week with no sides

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 02:04:46 AM »
b6 works pretty good
gotta take at least 300mg a day though and the stuff can become neurotoxic at 500mg+

im currently on test, 1g npp and 700mg tren ace and apart from 1.2mg adex a day and 20mg raloxifene i only run 300mg b6 a day, the combo keeps prolactin in check just as well as caber (which i do have on hand, but dont want the potential igf lowering effects from)

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4019
  • Getbig!
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2015, 05:21:35 AM »
b6 works pretty good
gotta take at least 300mg a day though and the stuff can become neurotoxic at 500mg+

im currently on test, 1g npp and 700mg tren ace and apart from 1.2mg adex a day and 20mg raloxifene i only run 300mg b6 a day, the combo keeps prolactin in check just as well as caber (which i do have on hand, but dont want the potential igf lowering effects from)

If u take P5P, the active form of b6, there is no neuro toxic effects.   
you are gay.

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 10:42:48 AM »
If u take P5P, the active form of b6, there is no neuro toxic effects.   
i think p5p has not been scientifically proven to lower prolactin, or at least it isnt used for it
im not quite sure though
there was something wrong with it idk

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4019
  • Getbig!
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2015, 05:58:24 PM »
i think p5p has not been scientifically proven to lower prolactin, or at least it isnt used for it
im not quite sure though
there was something wrong with it idk

Just google it, p5p lowered prolactin in a few studies...
you are gay.

oni

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1095
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2015, 07:32:51 PM »
Just google it, p5p lowered prolactin in a few studies...

Got links?
Lowering prolactin isn't really the same as  lowering it enough for 2g of progestins to not cause issues

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2015, 11:46:21 PM »
Just google it, p5p lowered prolactin in a few studies...
yeah, i just have something in the back of my mind that it was inferior to "normal" b6
pyridoxine hcl is what i use. i did extensive research before buying the stuff but i dont remember what made it superior lol

Davidtheman100

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1180
  • Kill it
Re: Deca confusion...
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2015, 02:01:08 PM »
It always confuses the fuck out of me as so many people say different things
But

You will not get gyno if you have low estrogen controlled with an AI with deca - you may still get deca dick
For removal of all sides - you need cabergoline

That is the long and short of it

This more or less