Author Topic: Phil plans on going for 10 Mr. Os. He said he plans to retire in 2020  (Read 3676 times)

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Can he go 10?  I say no fucking way.  He won't even beat Ronnie/Haney.
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As long as the IFBB continues to lure in the top athletes from around the world, Phil has his work cut out for him!

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He lost a good step last year and came in looking off, if any of the turtle bellies took Arnold's advice and work hard at slimming up there mid sections he could have some better competition.  One fucking Cedric has to get it right and not fuck up, that dude looks like he could hold it for a good five years if he ever nails his conditioning consistently.

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He lost a good step last year and came in looking off, if any of the turtle bellies took Arnold's advice and work hard at slimming up there mid sections he could have some better competition.  One fucking Cedric has to get it right and not fuck up, that dude looks like he could hold it for a good five years if he ever nails his conditioning consistently.

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10? No way

If anyone could've won 10, it would've been Ronnie.

Ramy will nail his conditioning in one of those upcoming Olympia's... and end Phil's streak.

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He lost a good step last year and came in looking off, if any of the turtle bellies took Arnold's advice and work hard at slimming up there mid sections he could have some better competition.  One fucking Cedric has to get it right and not fuck up, that dude looks like he could hold it for a good five years if he ever nails his conditioning consistently.

He admits he came in 80%.  Due to his busy schedule with the new company and other stuff.  This year he plans on being 100%.  We'll see.  But he's right, the judges have spoken
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Kai is pretty much done for.

Beyeke, Curry, and Rhoden always look watery and soft.

Wolf has no calves and his arms are starting to regress.

Branch Warren.......enough said.

Dexter Jackson may still have a chance, but age is catching up with him.

Ramy definitely has a shot.

Compton, if he keeps improving, may have a shot.

Victor Martinez, well, hes too inconsistent to be a threat.

Juan Morel........no one cares about him.

McMillan is a possible threat. but hes getting old.

Winklaar is a disaster. Huge gut.

Evan Centopani will always be a 2nd tier bodybuilder. No threat.

CONCLUSION:

Ramy is the only real current threat. Its possible Phil can get 10 if Ramy doesnt sneak up on him or another person comes out of nowhere!
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There is no question that Phil Heath will be back next year to defend his title.  He wants that 5th one.  
Afterwards, it is anyone's guess.
   But Phil will not let anyone beat him next year either.

I have a theory that Phil Heath is quietly planning to RETIRE following a WIN at the 2015 Mr. Olympia Contest.  
Let me lay out why I think this is the case:

Company change)
Phil took a nice payday and walked away from a steady contract.  The move shocked many, but would make sense if he only planned to compete for one more year.  The steady check would go away anyway - but locking in a nice % of your own company would be a smart move if you planned on doing that full-time, starting in a year.  

Aging physique)
His body is showing signs of age/expansion in the BBing era now... it's just science, not a knock on Phil.   Midsection growing, arms shrinking a bit.  It happens.  2011 may have been the best Phil we'll see.

Legacy)
Phil is a huge Michael Jordan fan... No doubt, he reveled in the TWO times Jordan went out on top... then came back past his time for dismal Wizards career.  Most huge MJ fans wish he had left on top.   Phil will never go on that stage if he's getting bested by 5 or 6 guys. He'll retire first.  And comparing 2014 to 2011, he has declined, that's not a knock, that's just the effects of BBing lifestyle.  

Health)
Phil's a smart guy.  He knows BBing is a dangerous sport at the top levels, and he's almost 35 and a family man.  He's not a single rock star, willing to ride his body til the wheels fall off.  A decade at the highest level of BBing "supp" use - smart man starts to back off soon.  

They caught him)
Kai's right there.   others are close.   If Phil drops off 2%, he can easily lose on any night now.  Phil isn't unbeatable.  You can ask Iris Kyle if they'll give a retiring multi-champion a parting gift title.  They will.  Phil knows he will win in 2015 if he's off yet retiring on top.  Does anyone here think, after seeing the 2014 show, that Phil is unbeatable in 2 years?

Forward-thinking)
Phil was a computer major in college.  He's been on the right side of everything he's done in Bodybuilding.  He arrived, did the right shows, crashed with Jay to learn the top level ropes, entered and won the right hows every year.  Phil doesn't make mistakes.   Phil doesn't do 'trial and error'.  He's a bright dude, and in a sport as competitive and potentially dangerous as BBing, I think Phil's had his eyes on the Exit door, of what's next, since he entered bodybuilding.  Winning the 5th title, retiring to lead his company to the top, it's the right move.

FIVE sounds right)
Strive for five.   Five-time winner.  Phil's Five Titles.  5X Olympia winner.  Nice round number that puts him in the upper echelon of the sport, but also lets him retire at age 35 and able to keep his health, run a company for a decade or two, and maintain sustained income.  Five time winner just sounds right.  

So anyway, that's my guess.  I have no 'inside information'.  Just as a fan, looking at Phil's situation, legacy, position and trying to predict his mindset... and of course, Ron's sly comment above, seeing as Phil would give insiders like Ron the wink and the nod...

I think Phil Heath goes out on top and retires after winning the 2015 Mr. Olympia contest.

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Would be a hell of a legacy but to remain injury free for that long at that level just dosen't seem very likely.
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Would be a hell of a legacy but to remain injury free for that long at that level just dosen't seem very likely.

Hopefully he continues to regress so Ramy can be Mr. O.
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Hopefully he continues to regress so Ramy can be Mr. O.

Very possible that happens.
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I see him getting a win this year, and the next. After that, I can see them slowly moving guys up just to get new blood in the mix. 5 years is a long time in bodybuilding years. I don't see 10 wins, nope.

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I agree with 240. Think he will go out on top. He is setting himself up for his supplement line so he can make a nice smooth transition into it full time. Depending on how close it is this year between him and the other top 4, maybe he will squeeze one more O run out.

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Kai is pretty much done for.

Beyeke, Curry, and Rhoden always look watery and soft.

Wolf has no calves and his arms are starting to regress.

Branch Warren.......enough said.

Dexter Jackson may still have a chance, but age is catching up with him.

Ramy definitely has a shot.

Compton, if he keeps improving, may have a shot.

Victor Martinez, well, hes too inconsistent to be a threat.

Juan Morel........no one cares about him.

McMillan is a possible threat. but hes getting old.

Winklaar is a disaster. Huge gut.

Evan Centopani will always be a 2nd tier bodybuilder. No threat.

CONCLUSION:

Ramy is the only real current threat. Its possible Phil can get 10 if Ramy doesnt sneak up on him or another person comes out of nowhere!
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He'll probably win this year again, mainly through politics. Ramy is catching him fast though and Phil will go out once he realises he's going to get beat the following year, similar to what Haney did when Yates appeared.

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Kai is pretty much done for.

Beyeke, Curry, and Rhoden always look watery and soft.

Wolf has no calves and his arms are starting to regress.

Branch Warren.......enough said.

Dexter Jackson may still have a chance, but age is catching up with him.

Ramy definitely has a shot.

Compton, if he keeps improving, may have a shot.

Victor Martinez, well, hes too inconsistent to be a threat.

Juan Morel........no one cares about him.

McMillan is a possible threat. but hes getting old.

Winklaar is a disaster. Huge gut.

Evan Centopani will always be a 2nd tier bodybuilder. No threat.

CONCLUSION:

Ramy is the only real current threat. Its possible Phil can get 10 if Ramy doesnt sneak up on him or another person comes out of nowhere!

What about Kuclo?

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What about Kuclo?

Good bodybuilder, but I don't think he will be the one to catch Phil. Unless Phil really regresses. But he'd still have to beat Ramy.
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What about Kuclo?
Kuclo will be chasing his 8th wife by then.

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Kuclo will be chasing his 8th wife by then.

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Can he go 10?  I say no fucking way.  He won't even beat Ronnie/Haney.

Regarding to U , this planet will be destroyed on the 23rd Sep. 2015 so no chance for him to collect 10 fake Sandows  8)

Don't forget to tell him that  ;D

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Regarding to U , this planet will be destroyed on the 23rd Sep. 2015 so no chance for him to collect 10 fake Sandows  8)

Don't forget to tell him that  ;D

Really? This is news to me dipshit.
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Can he go 10?  I say no fucking way.  He won't even beat Ronnie/Haney.


He can. There is no one today to match his development....also pharma igf 1 is once again available in market. He should be able to find a good amount of supply.

Big Ramy....he is not even cracking top 3..politics

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I have a theory that Phil Heath is quietly planning to RETIRE following a WIN at the 2015 Mr. Olympia Contest.  
Let me lay out why I think this is the case:

Company change)
Phil took a nice payday and walked away from a steady contract.  The move shocked many, but would make sense if he only planned to compete for one more year.  The steady check would go away anyway - but locking in a nice % of your own company would be a smart move if you planned on doing that full-time, starting in a year.  

Aging physique)
His body is showing signs of age/expansion in the BBing era now... it's just science, not a knock on Phil.   Midsection growing, arms shrinking a bit.  It happens.  2011 may have been the best Phil we'll see.

Legacy)
Phil is a huge Michael Jordan fan... No doubt, he reveled in the TWO times Jordan went out on top... then came back past his time for dismal Wizards career.  Most huge MJ fans wish he had left on top.   Phil will never go on that stage if he's getting bested by 5 or 6 guys. He'll retire first.  And comparing 2014 to 2011, he has declined, that's not a knock, that's just the effects of BBing lifestyle.  

Health)
Phil's a smart guy.  He knows BBing is a dangerous sport at the top levels, and he's almost 35 and a family man.  He's not a single rock star, willing to ride his body til the wheels fall off.  A decade at the highest level of BBing "supp" use - smart man starts to back off soon.  

They caught him)
Kai's right there.   others are close.   If Phil drops off 2%, he can easily lose on any night now.  Phil isn't unbeatable.  You can ask Iris Kyle if they'll give a retiring multi-champion a parting gift title.  They will.  Phil knows he will win in 2015 if he's off yet retiring on top.  Does anyone here think, after seeing the 2014 show, that Phil is unbeatable in 2 years?

Forward-thinking)
Phil was a computer major in college.  He's been on the right side of everything he's done in Bodybuilding.  He arrived, did the right shows, crashed with Jay to learn the top level ropes, entered and won the right hows every year.  Phil doesn't make mistakes.   Phil doesn't do 'trial and error'.  He's a bright dude, and in a sport as competitive and potentially dangerous as BBing, I think Phil's had his eyes on the Exit door, of what's next, since he entered bodybuilding.  Winning the 5th title, retiring to lead his company to the top, it's the right move.

FIVE sounds right)
Strive for five.   Five-time winner.  Phil's Five Titles.  5X Olympia winner.  Nice round number that puts him in the upper echelon of the sport, but also lets him retire at age 35 and able to keep his health, run a company for a decade or two, and maintain sustained income.  Five time winner just sounds right.  

So anyway, that's my guess.  I have no 'inside information'.  Just as a fan, looking at Phil's situation, legacy, position and trying to predict his mindset... and of course, Ron's sly comment above, seeing as Phil would give insiders like Ron the wink and the nod...

I think Phil Heath goes out on top and retires after winning the 2015 Mr. Olympia contest.

You also had a similar theory about DLB