10 year cooling trend

[Necrosis]

The greenhouse effect does not take into account the various feedback mechanisms like sea algae. It does not trump observational data, which sadly does not support your hypothesis.

So NASA are unaware of this? they are completely mis-interpreting the data they created/collected.

of course carbon sinks and sources are accounted for. What do you think has been going on in climatology for the last 50 years?

[_aj_]

So NASA are unaware of this? they are completely mis-interpreting the data they created/collected.

of course carbon sinks and sources are accounted for. What do you think has been going on in climatology for the last 50 years?

Misinterpreted? The just deleted and replaced the data that they didn't like. What reputable scientist does that?

[Necrosis]

Misinterpreted? The just deleted and replaced the data that they didn't like. What reputable scientist does that?

proof?

[Howard]

No it doesn't. Hence the fact that there is no warming in the last 15 years yet CO2 levels are rising. Please google the definition of "correlation"

Dem's big words bro.

[Coach is Back!]

$$$$ nothing more nothing less.

[forillagorilla]

"Scientists" tend to have data that supports the agenda of those that "$upport" the scientist.
There are tons of scientists that are highly regarded (or were until they dared to against the establishment) and have the highest accreditation possible - that completely disagree with "man-made climate change"
Of the arguments here - AJ is the most reasonable by far.
Here is the thing - if you believe the "planet has a fever" then lead the way for the rest of us and really sacrifice and give up all of those things that create carbon emissions.. Don't just sit there and let the poor planet suffer with a fever.. Can you imagine how miserable the poor Earth feels being so large with a fever?? I bet it has a tummy ache and sore throat too.. But you can walk your ass to work and WalMart and maybe even get that doggone fever to break if you get all of your buddies to do the same..
As for me - fuck the planet I like my Humvee and love to keep my A/C on 68 even when I am gone so that its nice and cold when I arrive. I do only run the front unit when I am away for more than a day though

[The Ugly]

This is why I don't have a party anymore.

[Necrosis]

"Scientists" tend to have data that supports the agenda of those that "$upport" the scientist.
There are tons of scientists that are highly regarded (or were until they dared to against the establishment) and have the highest accreditation possible - that completely disagree with "man-made climate change"
Of the arguments here - AJ is the most reasonable by far.
Here is the thing - if you believe the "planet has a fever" then lead the way for the rest of us and really sacrifice and give up all of those things that create carbon emissions.. Don't just sit there and let the poor planet suffer with a fever.. Can you imagine how miserable the poor Earth feels being so large with a fever?? I bet it has a tummy ache and sore throat too.. But you can walk your ass to work and WalMart and maybe even get that doggone fever to break if you get all of your buddies to do the same..
As for me - fuck the planet I like my Humvee and love to keep my A/C on 68 even when I am gone so that its nice and cold when I arrive. I do only run the front unit when I am away for more than a day though

lol, what arguments, AJ made some statements he can't back up. Co2 has risen sharply, warming has occurred, he is literally completely incorrect. Would make sense that you take "the highest accreditation" as evidence. 99% of the worlds (not just US, see if you can keep up) disagree with you and AJ.

That is, places like China, Turkey, Norway, Russia all agree with NASA, they have data to corroborate. It's hilarious that you think money is the motive, you think the oil industries aren't making money? you think the Green lobby can bully the oil industry? they are paying off all these scientists, for the last 10 years in hopes of a carbon tax. Where is all this money coming from?

you are honestly pretty dense, one person riding a bike won't do shit, the change has to be logical, progressive and take into account the current climate, economic or otherwise.

SCIENCE IS BAD, the internet, aviation, x-rays, combustion engines, interplanetary travel, vaccines etc etc.. all funded by leftist NWO folks.

[markofan]

What else did the ‘97% of scientists’ say?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/what-else-did-the-97-of-scientists-say/

The man made global warming cabal have learned their lessons from the Joseph Goebbels school of propaganda, that is

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it......for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie"

[timfogarty]

published just today by NOAA

[mr.turbo]

What else did the ‘97% of scientists’ say?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/what-else-did-the-97-of-scientists-say/

The man made global warming cabal have learned their lessons from the Joseph Goebbels school of propaganda, that is

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it......for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie"

what does the pope say?  I gather the catholic church is in on the scam too?

 

[Dr Dutch]

Howbmuch does the pope bench ?
How much do all these climate paranoïde bench ?

Now thst's the Question here..........

[markofan]

what does the pope say?  I gather the catholic church is in on the scam too?

 

http://drtimball.com/2015/pope-francis-apparently-doesnt-know-ipcc-climate-objective-contradicts-catholic-doctrine/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/06/18/is-the-catholic-church-burned-by-the-sun-again/

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/marxist-ideologue-calls-for-worldwide-central-planning/

[2Thick]

I wonder what Obama has on the pope. Blackmail? A bribe? Or just simple Chicago style bullying?

[timfogarty]

I wonder what Obama has on the pope. Blackmail? A bribe? Or just simple Chicago style bullying?

Wait.  I thought it was Al Gore

[Necrosis]

I wonder what Obama has on the pope. Blackmail? A bribe? Or just simple Chicago style bullying?

so you disagree with the basic research on this issue?

Because economics is your field, you may not have a grasp of the science, but denying this is akin to thinking the US are in a surplus.

[2Thick]

so you disagree with the basic research on this issue?

Because economics is your field, you may not have a grasp of the science, but denying this is akin to thinking the US are in a surplus.

Tell me what we can do about this?

Do you really think it will get better if we all live in caves and ride bikes all of the sudden?

Will China, India, Mexico, and other countries play nice also?

Why aren't Soros, Buffett, Gore, Richard Branson, Gates, et al reducing their own carbon footprints?

The world was here long before we got here, and I think it will still be here long after we're gone.

[Coach is Back!]

It's liberal bullshit. If anything did happen it wouldn't effect us until 50 lifetimes from now. In the mean time the left is going to push for more tax on propaganda.

[timfogarty]

The world was here long before we got here, and I think it will still be here long after we're gone.

that is the point.  the world will bounce back, after a few thousand years.  but unless we do something, civilization as we know it won't.

massive storms and flooding along the coast will cause displacement of a billion or more people.  extreme summer temperatures will make other areas unlivable. Existing farm land may become less productive. all of this will cause famines and war.

Tell me what we can do about this?

simple, get off hydrocarbons.  It will take some time and effort, but it can be done.  coming up with some ways to remediate the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and oceans would help too.

[2Thick]

Fear mongering.

Do you really think that fossil fuels are to blame every time there's a flood, a drought, a hurricane, an act of terrorism? Did we not always have these events? What about the recent increase in the frequency of shark attacks in shallow waters? Are those because of fossil fuels too? 

I have no doubt pollution is not the greatest thing, and reasonable measures have long been put in place in the US to reduce it.

The problem is that big govt goes way overboard, just as they do with everything else. It's largely a ploy for alt energy interests, carbon taxes, and to redistribute wealth.

Fossil fuels will be here for a long, long time. Big oil and gas companies themselves are working on alt energy, but they're nowhere near close to abandoning fossil fuels. Not until something practical, affordable, and reliable on a large scale comes along.

that is the point.  the world will bounce back, after a few thousand years.  but unless we do something, civilization as we know it won't.

massive storms and flooding along the coast will cause displacement of a billion or more people.  extreme summer temperatures will make other areas unlivable. Existing farm land may become less productive. all of this will cause famines and war.

simple, get off hydrocarbons.  It will take some time and effort, but it can be done.  coming up with some ways to remediate the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and oceans would help too.

[polychronopolous]

that is the point.  the world will bounce back, after a few thousand years.  but unless we do something, civilization as we know it won't.

massive storms and flooding along the coast will cause displacement of a billion or more people.  extreme summer temperatures will make other areas unlivable. Existing farm land may become less productive. all of this will cause famines and war.

simple, get off hydrocarbons.  It will take some time and effort, but it can be done.  coming up with some ways to remediate the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and oceans would help too.

If we don't commit trillions of dollars to correct this problem the North Pole will likely be completely melted by the year 2014.

[The Ugly]

Fear mongering.

Do you really think that fossil fuels are to blame every time there's a flood, a drought, a hurricane, an act of terrorism? Did we not always have these events? What about the recent increase in the frequency of shark attacks in shallow waters? Are those because of fossil fuels too? 

I have no doubt pollution is not the greatest thing, and reasonable measures have long been put in place in the US to reduce it.

The problem is that big govt goes way overboard, just as they do with everything else. It's largely a ploy for alt energy interests, carbon taxes, and to redistribute wealth.

Fossil fuels will be here for a long, long time. Big oil and gas companies themselves are working on alt energy, but they're nowhere near close to abandoning fossil fuels. Not until something practical, affordable, and reliable on a large scale comes along.

Totally agree here, too. Just doesn't seem wise applying baby/bathwater here. How many of those who fervently deny the science have even bothered to read, research, or consider it?

With such an overwhelming consensus, dismissing it as unworthy propaganda just sounds dangerously foolish. Critics should be keeping legislation/policy honest, seems to me, not denying there's an issue altogether.

[mr.turbo]

So who exactly can we trust to comment on this? (other than the coach)

Dr. Tim Ball?

[markofan]

http://www.principia-scientific.org/review-the-deliberate-corruption-of-climate-science-by-dr-tim-ballreview-the-deliberate-corruption-of-climate-science-by-dr-tim-ball.html


http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=415

[timfogarty]

Do you really think that fossil fuels are to blame every time there's a flood, a drought, a hurricane, an act of terrorism? Did we not always have these events? What about the recent increase in the frequency of shark attacks in shallow waters? Are those because of fossil fuels too?

well, oil certain is the root cause of lots of wars these days.

the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the reason there are more, and more intense droughts, hurricanes, temperature extremes, etc.

If we were to burn all the know oil and coal reserves, not what has yet to be discovered, but what know about and have easy access to, the amount of CO2, CH4 and N2O in the atmosphere would be enough to kill us. We can't keep adding these chemicals to the atmosphere.  The sooner we stop, the better off we'll be.