10 year cooling trend

[markofan]

Here is a very entertaining as well as enlightening talk by Dr. Tim Ball

Worth watching.

[_aj_]

well, oil certain is the root cause of lots of wars these days.

the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the reason there are more and more intense droughts, hurricanes, temperature extremes, etc.

If we were to burn all the know oil and coal reserves, not what has yet to be discovered, but what know about and have easy access to, the amount of CO2, CH4 and N2O in the atmosphere would be enough to kill us. We can't keep adding these chemicals to the atmosphere.  The sooner we stop, the better off we'll be.

Good Christ, you've been drinking the Al Gore koolaid.

And yet, with your apocalyptic graph, temperatures haven't risen in 15 years. So, so curious. It almost like your theories are complete shit.

[timfogarty]

And yet, with your apocalyptic graph, temperatures haven't risen in 15 years.

you must have missed my previous post



That a few weather stations in the US showed cooler weather for a few years does not mean the entire planet is not heating up.

What about some plain common sense? How can you think that you can double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in less than 150 years without it affecting the environment ??

[_aj_]

you must have missed my previous post



That a few weather stations in the US showed cooler weather for a few years does not mean the entire planet is not heating up.

What about some plain common sense? How can you think that you can double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in less than 150 years without it affecting the environment ??

Let's look at some actual observed data rather than ginned up simulated data presented as reality

[timfogarty]

that is a measure of one part of the atmosphere, about 6-10 miles up.  while important, it is only part of the story.  that data is from a NASA satellite, yet NASA scientists strongly believe in man made climate change.

[Necrosis]

that is a measure of one part of the atmosphere, about 6-10 miles up.  while important, it is only part of the story.  that data is from a NASA satellite, yet NASA scientists strongly believe in man made climate change.

You mean he is cherry picking data and actually using the data from the people he claims "made it up". He is simultaneously using a source he claims is fraudulent while also using the very same data to form a different conclusion then the people collecting it.

it's incredible. This guy deserves a nobel.

[Twaddle]

I for one am glad we have several doctoral level, astrophysicists on this board, who can educate us on these pressing matters.  Without getbig's wealth of knowledge, I don't think I could ever truly understand the world's most complicated subjects.   

[2Thick]

[markofan]

The global warming crowd continually drives home the point that "97 - 98% of all scientists agree on global warming".   So where did this number come from and how was it determined?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/about-that-overwhelming-98-number-of-scientists-consensus/

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/breaking-the-97-percent-climate-consensus-canard.php

[Necrosis]

Here is a very entertaining as well as enlightening talk by Dr. Tim Ball

Worth watching.

You mean the guy who makes up stuff?
Ball has also claimed, in an article written for the Calgary Herald, to be the first person to receive a PhD in climatology in Canada, and that he had been a professor for 28 years,[27] claims he also made in a letter to the then-prime minister of Canada, Paul Martin.[28] However, on April 23, 2006, Dan Johnson, a professor of environmental science at the University of Lethbridge, wrote a letter to the Herald in which he stated that at the time Ball received his PhD in 1983, "Canada already had PhDs in climatology," and that Ball had only been a professor for eight years, rather than 28 as he had claimed.[29] In the letter, Johnson also wrote that Ball “did not show any evidence of research regarding climate and atmosphere.”

added in an extra 20 years, no research regarding climate.

His one study was funded by exxon mobil, I mean, come on...

[markofan]

yes,  I'm sure everything in his videos on youtube is made up.

Here is another very good video of Dr. Don Easterbrook,  Western Washington University, speaking to a committee of the Washington State Senate.  He pretty much covers it all (which pretty much agrees with
Dr. Tim Ball)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Easterbrook

[Necrosis]

yes,  I'm sure everything in his videos on youtube is made up.

Here is another very good video of Dr. Don Easterbrook,  Western Washington University, speaking to a committee of the Washington State Senate.  He pretty much covers it all (which pretty much agrees with
Dr. Tim Ball)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Easterbrook

you mean this guy?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/don-easterbrook-heartland-distortion-of-reality.html

the guy who works for the oil companies who agrees with the guy who is funded by exxon mobil. Yet you think there is a clean energy conspiracy going on around the world

there is no cooling trend, the whole basis of this thread is wrong. The guys you cite are wrong, demonstrably so, they are so low on the totem pole of climatologists no one gives a fuck about them. They have done nothing meaningful in the field.

He literally makes up stuff, like completely misrepresenting the IPCC positions and claims, read the thread to see each of his lies destroyed by facts.

[dr.chimps]

Yes! Let's not get our science from scientists, but from political disinformation sources like the Koch Brothers. Why are people so willfully stupid. 

[markofan]

The "skepticalscience" website?  Really? 

http://www.populartechnology.net/2012/03/truth-about-skeptical-science.html

apparently a website put together by high school kids and valley girls

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/06/skeptcial-science-takes-creepy-to-a-whole-new-level/

[Necrosis]

The "skepticalscience" website?  Really? 

http://www.populartechnology.net/2012/03/truth-about-skeptical-science.html

apparently a website put together by high school kids and valley girls

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/06/skeptcial-science-takes-creepy-to-a-whole-new-level/

lol, you are nuts.

your link is garbage, popular technology.net? more fucking pseudo science links. skeptical science lists it's contributors
http://www.skepticalscience.com/team.php

notice how they actually have some education in climatology, earth sciences, oceanography etc

mean while, pop tech has a fucking computer tech guy and a software engineer. Why do you want to take information regarding a topic from non-experts?

[markofan]

Populartechnology.net is another excellent website exposing and debunking the pseudo-science, misrepresentations and outright lies of the "global warming-climate change" group.

For example:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2014/12/97-articles-refuting-97-consensus.html

[markofan]

I'm sure Necrosis would classify these men as "pseudo-scientists"

http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/07/eminent-physicists-skeptical-of-agw.html

[polychronopolous]

lol, you are nuts.

your link is garbage, popular technology.net? more fucking pseudo science links. skeptical science lists it's contributors
http://www.skepticalscience.com/team.php

notice how they actually have some education in climatology, earth sciences, oceanography etc

mean while, pop tech has a fucking computer tech guy and a software engineer. Why do you want to take information regarding a topic from non-experts?

You seem so passionate about this issue.

How much of your own personal money have you sent into to help combat the problem?

[Necrosis]

You seem so passionate about this issue.

How much of your own personal money have you sent into to help combat the problem?

zero.

I wouldn't say I am passionate about climate change, more so truth.

the answer isn't in stopping what we are doing, it's altering what we are doing so that it is sustainable.

[_bruce_]

Keep praying for your ALGore inspired duck in the oven scenario.  

[markofan]

you must have missed my previous post



That a few weather stations in the US showed cooler weather for a few years does not mean the entire planet is not heating up.

What about some plain common sense? How can you think that you can double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in less than 150 years without it affecting the environment ??

The data shown on these charts (from NOAA) has been "adjusted", that is purposefully changed from the original data, the purpose of which is to show more global warming than there actually is.  More fraud and deception.
Dr. Easterbrook explains how the data has been modified over the years starting about 13.30 into this video

[Voice of Doom]

The sun is the greatest factor in earth's climate. 

/End of thread

[Twaddle]

The data shown on these charts (from NOAA) has been "adjusted", that is purposefully changed from the original data, the purpose of which is to show more global warming than there actually is.  More fraud and deception.
Dr. Easterbrook explains how the data has been modified over the years starting about 13.30 into this video

I didn't watch the whole video, but he seems to be using US temperature data only?  Why only temperatures from one country?

[markofan]

In this video Easterbrook is testifying before a state Senate committee for the state of Washington.   The state senators are expressing concern how climate change is affecting state industries, primarily, it appears, the various fishing industries within state waters.  But his charts cover the world with some covering just the US

[mr.turbo]

In this video Easterbrook is testifying before a state Senate committee for the state of Washington.   The state senators are expressing concern how climate change is affecting state industries, primarily, it appears, the various fishing industries within state waters.  But his charts cover the world with some covering just the US

so..based on your research and investigations,

your personal opinion is that the *climate change* phenomena is all a hoax?