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'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say
Published June 17, 2015
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A former Amherst College student is just the latest in a long line of men whose lives have been turned upside-down after being accused of sexual assault in what they say were consensual encounters, found guilty in campus tribunals where, in some cases, critics say, they’re guilty even after proving their innocence.

The former student, whose name has not been made public, was expelled after his alleged victim, the roommate of his girlfriend, complained some 21 months after the incident and despite what evidence appears to show was consensual sex. As in many campus procedures which enforce school sanctions and not criminal law, only a finding that he was “more likely than not” guilty was necessary.

“Essentially the procedure there works under the assumption that the accused is guilty and needs to use the hearing to prove his innocence,” K.C. Johnson, author of “Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and the Shameful Injustice of the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case," told Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly. “But he isn’t given the tools to do that. He doesn’t have discovery, he can’t get the relevant evidence he needs, he doesn’t have an attorney representing him [and has] limited right of cross examination.

"So there’s virtually no way, once an accusation is made and gets into the system at a place like Amherst, and Amherst is not unique, that the accused can be exonerated,” Johnson said.

“Essentially the procedure there works under the assumption that the accused is guilty and needs to use the hearing to prove his innocence.”

- K.C. Johnson, author of book on Duke lacrosse case
Johnson, a history professor at Brooklyn College, said many schools adopted similar standards after a 2011 edict from the Obama administration, which claims 1 out of every 5 women in college is the victim of a sexual assault. In what became known as the “Dear Colleague” letter, the federal Department of Education warned that schools that do not crack down on sexual assaults could lose federal funding.

In the Amherst case, the expelled student’s attorney is suing the school in federal court, where traditional rules of evidence have produced incriminating text messages sent by the alleged victim that appear to indicate she not only consented to, but initiated the sex. His attorney also alleges that the woman told campus investigators the sex began consensually, but that she revoked her consent during the act.

The suit seeks $75,000 and names the school, President Carolyn Martin and several officials for moving “with enormous speed to expel John Doe, eject him from the campus, and destroy his reputation.”

Other cases in which young men’s lives have been damaged by accusations that might not stand up in a traditional court have made recent headlines.

Paul Nungesser, a Columbia University student accused of raping fellow student Emma Sulkowicz, is suing the Ivy League school for allowing Sulkowicz to conduct a campaign against him that includes dragging a mattress around campus and making a video re-enactment of her alleged rape. Unlike in the Amherst case, Nungesser was cleared of rape charges, yet the school did nothing to stop Sulkowicz from harassing him, according to a federal suit. The mattress campaign was even sanctioned by a professor as her senior visual arts class project.

Nungesser’s federal lawsuit alleges the school, by not stopping Sulkowicz, "effectively destroyed" his college experience, reputation and future career prospects.

 Another Ivy League case involves Brown University student Daniel Kopin, who was accused in 2013 of sexually assaulting an ex-girlfriend and fellow classmate, Lena Sclove, months earlier. Kopin claimed the sex was consensual; Sclove, in a formal complaint with Brown’s disciplinary board, said she had been raped.

Kopin was charged with four violations of the student code of conduct, suspended for the rest of the year and told he would have to apply for readmission. Up to that point, his name had been kept private, but Sclove balked at the sanction, saying she was threatened by Kopin’s possible return to campus. After she hosted a press conference, the school’s Daily Herald outed Kopin.

Kopin is also suing the school in federal court, and these cases are among more than 20 filed in recent years against schools by defendants who say they were illegally punished for sexual assaults they never committed.

In some cases, criminal investigations conducted outside of campus have shown the alleged attackers to be innocent. Caleb Warner, a onetime student at University of North Dakota, was charged in 2010 with sexually assaulting a fellow student in what he insisted was a consensual encounter. He was found guilty by a campus tribunal and expelled, but months later, local police charged his alleged victim had deliberately falsified the charges. She was charged with lying to police, and fled the state.

Sommers says one campus rape is too many, but the figures driving the school policies are greatly exaggerated.
While no one doubts that sexual assault occurs on campuses and is a problem, Christina Hoff Sommers, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of “The War Against Boys,” says the so-called “rape culture” on campus is exaggerated, and the lines between consensual sex that is later regretted and actual assault is being blurred. A complaint is often enough to get the accused thrown out of school, she said.

"In an American courtroom, those accused of crimes have a right to a lawyer, a right to question accusers, and they are presumed innocent until proven guilty," Sommers told FoxNews.com. "It’s all reversed in today’s campus rape tribunals."

Sommers says the real number of college women who are victims of sexual assaults that would measure up to the standards of a criminal court is about 1 in 40. She said the 1-in-5 figure cited by the administration includes verbal threats and is derived from surveys in which respondents are asked “an artful combination of straightforward and leading questions” and categorize all sex that occurs while the female is intoxicated as rape.

Despite the lawsuits brought by male students who say they were wrongly accused, the Department of Education is maintaining pressure on schools to vigorously investigate and prosecute claims of alleged assault victims or possibly face federal funding cuts. In April of 2014, the White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault issued a report urging schools to do more.

“Colleges and universities can no longer turn a blind eye or pretend rape and sexual assault doesn’t occur on their campuses,” Vice President Biden said as the report was released. “We need to provide survivors with more support and we need to bring perpetrators to more justice and we need colleges and universities to step up.”

Days later, the Department of Education named 55 schools that were under investigation for their treatment of rape allegations, including universities such as Harvard and Dartmouth.

Sommers said the threat of funding cuts has gotten the attention of schools, who

"University and college officials were terrified of running afoul of the new  version of Title IX mandated by the Department of Education in 2011," Sommers said. "So they are quietly amending the U.S. Constitution.

"The First Amendment is now being replaced by a woman’s right not to be made uncomfortable," she added. "Due process is being treated as a barrier to justice -- rather than its essence."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/17/accused-is-guilty-campus-rape-tribunals-punish-without-proof-say-critics/

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This is so wrong. 






How so?  It seems right in line with our discussion in the other thread about these institutions treating people like criminals without a conviction.

In one case you seem to want to argue that's what they should do as even the appearance of impropriety is enough.  Same could be said of the student.  They don't want the appearance, get rid of the student.

This was what I was trying to convey.  Seems problematic to me.  Or, maybe...


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How so?  It seems right in line with our discussion in the other thread about these institutions treating people like criminals without a conviction.

In one case you seem to want to argue that's what they should do as even the appearance of impropriety is enough.  Same could be said of the student.  They don't want the appearance, get rid of the student.

This was what I was trying to convey.  Seems problematic to me.  Or, maybe...



I don't see much of a comparison.  One involved a business decision regarding removing a statue (or something like that).  This is about due process and someone's ability to get an education at the school of their choosing, especially Amherst, which is one of the top two liberal arts colleges in the country. 

I've never said I favor a person being accused of a crime, with liberty, property, etc. at stake and being presumed guilty. 

I think a better comparison would be an employee being fired based on allegations that haven't been proved. 

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I don't see much of a comparison.  One involved a business decision regarding removing a statue (or something like that).  This is about due process and someone's ability to get an education at the school of their choosing, especially Amherst, which is one of the top two liberal arts colleges in the country. 

I've never said I favor a person being accused of a crime, with liberty, property, etc. at stake and being presumed guilty. 

I think a better comparison would be an employee being fired based on allegations that haven't been proved. 


Nah...the student / university relationship is nothing more than a business relationship just as any other case.  At one time it might have been something more, maybe.


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Nah...the student / university relationship is nothing more than a business relationship just as any other case.  At one time it might have been something more, maybe.



That's not accurate.  Schools generally give students due process rights before kicking them out of school.  That's not a typical business relationship. 

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 I keep tabs on various MRA/MGTOW websites, and these things just keep adding up. Duke LaCrosse, UVa, Emma Sulkowicz and her mattress-carrying bullshit.

 People who make false assault accusations need to spend time in jail.

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Yeah its not happening...hell they use these fake crimes as "what could happen" and continue to defend the fake victims. Its gotten absurd how stupid the leftists have become.
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I keep tabs on various MRA/MGTOW websites, and these things just keep adding up. Duke LaCrosse, UVa, Emma Sulkowicz and her mattress-carrying bullshit.

People who make false assault accusations need to spend time in jail.

I agree.

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People who make false assault accusations need to spend time in jail.

THIS!!!

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I keep tabs on various MRA/MGTOW websites, and these things just keep adding up. Duke LaCrosse, UVa, Emma Sulkowicz and her mattress-carrying bullshit.

 People who make false assault accusations need to spend time in jail.

They should get at least the same prison time and consequences (offender list etc) as the innocent person would have gotten in case of conviction.

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NOT SUING FOR ENOUGH.  They should sue for half a million and also press charges against the accuser for false allegations and damage to his life.

This is so wrong. 

'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say
Published June 17, 2015
Foxnews.com

A former Amherst College student is just the latest in a long line of men whose lives have been turned upside-down after being accused of sexual assault in what they say were consensual encounters, found guilty in campus tribunals where, in some cases, critics say, they’re guilty even after proving their innocence.

The former student, whose name has not been made public, was expelled after his alleged victim, the roommate of his girlfriend, complained some 21 months after the incident and despite what evidence appears to show was consensual sex. As in many campus procedures which enforce school sanctions and not criminal law, only a finding that he was “more likely than not” guilty was necessary.

“Essentially the procedure there works under the assumption that the accused is guilty and needs to use the hearing to prove his innocence,” K.C. Johnson, author of “Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and the Shameful Injustice of the Duke Lacrosse Rape Case," told Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly. “But he isn’t given the tools to do that. He doesn’t have discovery, he can’t get the relevant evidence he needs, he doesn’t have an attorney representing him [and has] limited right of cross examination.

"So there’s virtually no way, once an accusation is made and gets into the system at a place like Amherst, and Amherst is not unique, that the accused can be exonerated,” Johnson said.

“Essentially the procedure there works under the assumption that the accused is guilty and needs to use the hearing to prove his innocence.”

- K.C. Johnson, author of book on Duke lacrosse case
Johnson, a history professor at Brooklyn College, said many schools adopted similar standards after a 2011 edict from the Obama administration, which claims 1 out of every 5 women in college is the victim of a sexual assault. In what became known as the “Dear Colleague” letter, the federal Department of Education warned that schools that do not crack down on sexual assaults could lose federal funding.

In the Amherst case, the expelled student’s attorney is suing the school in federal court, where traditional rules of evidence have produced incriminating text messages sent by the alleged victim that appear to indicate she not only consented to, but initiated the sex. His attorney also alleges that the woman told campus investigators the sex began consensually, but that she revoked her consent during the act.

The suit seeks $75,000 and names the school, President Carolyn Martin and several officials for moving “with enormous speed to expel John Doe, eject him from the campus, and destroy his reputation.”

Other cases in which young men’s lives have been damaged by accusations that might not stand up in a traditional court have made recent headlines.

Paul Nungesser, a Columbia University student accused of raping fellow student Emma Sulkowicz, is suing the Ivy League school for allowing Sulkowicz to conduct a campaign against him that includes dragging a mattress around campus and making a video re-enactment of her alleged rape. Unlike in the Amherst case, Nungesser was cleared of rape charges, yet the school did nothing to stop Sulkowicz from harassing him, according to a federal suit. The mattress campaign was even sanctioned by a professor as her senior visual arts class project.

Nungesser’s federal lawsuit alleges the school, by not stopping Sulkowicz, "effectively destroyed" his college experience, reputation and future career prospects.

 Another Ivy League case involves Brown University student Daniel Kopin, who was accused in 2013 of sexually assaulting an ex-girlfriend and fellow classmate, Lena Sclove, months earlier. Kopin claimed the sex was consensual; Sclove, in a formal complaint with Brown’s disciplinary board, said she had been raped.

Kopin was charged with four violations of the student code of conduct, suspended for the rest of the year and told he would have to apply for readmission. Up to that point, his name had been kept private, but Sclove balked at the sanction, saying she was threatened by Kopin’s possible return to campus. After she hosted a press conference, the school’s Daily Herald outed Kopin.

Kopin is also suing the school in federal court, and these cases are among more than 20 filed in recent years against schools by defendants who say they were illegally punished for sexual assaults they never committed.

In some cases, criminal investigations conducted outside of campus have shown the alleged attackers to be innocent. Caleb Warner, a onetime student at University of North Dakota, was charged in 2010 with sexually assaulting a fellow student in what he insisted was a consensual encounter. He was found guilty by a campus tribunal and expelled, but months later, local police charged his alleged victim had deliberately falsified the charges. She was charged with lying to police, and fled the state.

Sommers says one campus rape is too many, but the figures driving the school policies are greatly exaggerated.
While no one doubts that sexual assault occurs on campuses and is a problem, Christina Hoff Sommers, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of “The War Against Boys,” says the so-called “rape culture” on campus is exaggerated, and the lines between consensual sex that is later regretted and actual assault is being blurred. A complaint is often enough to get the accused thrown out of school, she said.

"In an American courtroom, those accused of crimes have a right to a lawyer, a right to question accusers, and they are presumed innocent until proven guilty," Sommers told FoxNews.com. "It’s all reversed in today’s campus rape tribunals."

Sommers says the real number of college women who are victims of sexual assaults that would measure up to the standards of a criminal court is about 1 in 40. She said the 1-in-5 figure cited by the administration includes verbal threats and is derived from surveys in which respondents are asked “an artful combination of straightforward and leading questions” and categorize all sex that occurs while the female is intoxicated as rape.

Despite the lawsuits brought by male students who say they were wrongly accused, the Department of Education is maintaining pressure on schools to vigorously investigate and prosecute claims of alleged assault victims or possibly face federal funding cuts. In April of 2014, the White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault issued a report urging schools to do more.

“Colleges and universities can no longer turn a blind eye or pretend rape and sexual assault doesn’t occur on their campuses,” Vice President Biden said as the report was released. “We need to provide survivors with more support and we need to bring perpetrators to more justice and we need colleges and universities to step up.”

Days later, the Department of Education named 55 schools that were under investigation for their treatment of rape allegations, including universities such as Harvard and Dartmouth.

Sommers said the threat of funding cuts has gotten the attention of schools, who

"University and college officials were terrified of running afoul of the new  version of Title IX mandated by the Department of Education in 2011," Sommers said. "So they are quietly amending the U.S. Constitution.

"The First Amendment is now being replaced by a woman’s right not to be made uncomfortable," she added. "Due process is being treated as a barrier to justice -- rather than its essence."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/17/accused-is-guilty-campus-rape-tribunals-punish-without-proof-say-critics/
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Texas college student sues over possible expulsion for alleged sex assault
By  Edmund DeMarche 
Published March 01, 2016
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A physics major one semester away from graduation is suing to stop University of Texas-Austin from expelling him based on the unproven accusation he sexually assaulted a woman in a drunken, off-campus encounter.

In one of the latest cases of male college students turning to the courts after being punished by public universities for being accused of sexual assaults, the 21-year-old man identified as John Doe in legal papers claims the school is violating his Constitutional right to due process. His alleged victim, who did not attend the school, never filed a police report, according to his lawyer, yet the school took action based on her father’s complaint.

“What we’re seeing here is a nationwide movement that has gone too far in what the system sees as victims of campus assaults,” said Brian Roark. "Give us a fair hearing, and we'll deal with the consequences."

“My law office gets phone calls every day from students who want to defend their right to due process.”

- Andrew Miltenberg

Doe, who claims the sex was consensual, is facing a disciplinary hearing that could result in his expulsion, The College Fix reported. He filed the suit about two months ago with the goal of clearing his name.

The alleged incident occurred on March 6, 2015, after a night of heavy drinking at a house party where Doe met two unnamed women, according to the lawsuit. The three spent the night at an off-campus apartment belonging to one of the women, where Doe had sex with one woman that night and the other the next morning, according to the lawsuit.

The father of the woman who had sex with Doe the next morning told campus police of the encounter a month later, prompting a school investigation. Doe told investigators that the woman was enthusiastic about the encounter and talked about being in a pornographic movie.

“It’s not just me raping this drunk girl,” Doe told investigators, according to the lawsuit.

But the alleged victim later told her friend, who had had sex with Doe hours earlier, that she was still intoxicated from the previous night and was in fact unconscious during sex.

“I don’t remember throwing up, or coming home, or having this random … guy in my bed,” the alleged victim texted her friend, according to the lawsuit. “I didn’t want this guy.  At all. This guy wanted me and got me when I wasn’t conscious.”

Her friend reportedly responded, “Dude I didn’t realize you were unconscious, you were talking to me,” according to the lawsuit.

Differing accounts of drunken sexual encounters are at the core of most similar cases being dealt with by colleges and universities in the wake of a 2011 directive from the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights. In that letter, the federal government threatened to withhold funding under the gender equity law known as Title IX if schools did not demonstrate they were taking serious action to halt the epidemic of sexual assaults on campus.

While proponents say the federal efforts have protected women on campus, critics say it sparked a rush to judgment against young men who can have their lives ruined by unproven accusations.

"The university has been placed under enormous political pressure to appear tough on those accused of sexual assault and as a result have adopted a practice of expelling males from the university without regard to the rights of the accused student of the evidence,” the lawsuit states.

Roark said UT-Austin's policy barred Doe from having legal representation, cross-examining the accuser or even calling on testimony from corroborating witnesses, including the other woman. He scoffed at the “27-year-old education grads” he said typically staff the school-run probes.

UT-Austin declined to comment, citing a policy of not discussing ongoing litigation or student discipline.

Dozens of young men are going to court to seek relief from punishment and reputational damage meted out by schools for alleged sexual assaults, according to Inside Higher Ed. As of November, there are more than 50 pending lawsuits filed by men who claim they were unfairly expelled from college after being accused of sexual assault.

“I think you can have a system that encourages victims to come forward while protecting the rights of the accused,” Andrew Miltenberg, a lawyer who specializes in campus assault due process, told FoxNews.com. “But are we there yet? No.”

Miltenberg gained national attention when he represented  a Columbia University student accused of raping a fellow student who went on to conduct a campaign against the man by carrying a mattress around campus and making a video re-enactment of her alleged rape.

Paul Nungesser was cleared of rape charges, but is now suing the school in federal court for failing to stop Emma Sulkowicz from harassing him. Sulkowicz, with the help of three friends, carried the mattress when she received her diploma during graduation to the cheers of fellow students.

Nungesser’s mother, who was at the graduation ceremony, told Newsweek,  “I would have liked to go to every single parent in that audience and say, ‘I am the mother of Paul, and I am very proud of my son, and I hope you discuss with your sons and daughters what they did to him.”

In one of the first of its kind, the U.S. District Court in Rhode Island on Monday ruled to allow a former student’s lawsuit to proceed against Brown University, alleging that the school violated his due process and discriminated against him based on gender during a wrongful sexual misconduct investigation.

“My law office gets phone calls every day from students who want to defend their right to due process,” Miltenberg said. “The courts are going to have to see enough of these that there is a sense across the country that, Wait, this is coming up too much, there really must be something wrong.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/01/texas-college-student-sues-over-possible-expulsion-for-alleged-sex-assault.html?intcmp=hpbt2

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