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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11675 on: January 11, 2025, 01:39:27 AM »
The Long-Term Challenge of Bitcoin's Halving and Security
Bitcoin’s Proof-of-Work (PoW) system depends on miners being rewarded in BTC. However, the block reward is cut in half every four years, reducing payouts and impacting network security over time.

Halving Schedule & Block Rewards
Bitcoin’s block reward will continue to halve approximately every four years:

2024: 3.125 BTC
2028: 1.5625 BTC
2032: 0.78125 BTC
2036: 0.390625 BTC
2040: 0.1953125 BTC
2044: 0.09765625 BTC
2048: 0.048828125 BTC

Impact on Mining Economics
Currently, mining one BTC costs about $90,000, and the total cost to mine a block (3.125 BTC) is around $281,250.

Even if BTC reaches $6 million by 2048, the block reward would be worth around $293,000, which wouldn’t buy the same level of security as it does today due to inflation and rising costs.

By 2056-2060, Bitcoin’s rewards will halve twice more, requiring BTC to hit more than $12M–$24M per coin to exceed 2025 cost-to-mine security-levels due to dollar devaluation. It might have to go much higher if the dollar has collapsed by then.

Centralization and Security Risks
As rewards shrink, mining will likely become centralized, with large operations needing extensive security measures to protect infrastructure. Without changes to Bitcoin’s economic model, this trend could weaken the network’s security and decentralization in the long run.

A few points - the mining cost you have provided is the cost for some miners. However, some mine far more efficiently, and are in the 10K per coin range. (It also of course depends on how you factor in the cost of rigs). But miners are always gravitating towards cheaper and cheaper (and ultimately free) energy.

As BTC keeps declining in new supply, combined with increased demand, price will rocket up. Its like a double squeeze - less supply, continued demand, growing adoption, and measures in money printed fiat - BTC will rise exponentially over the next 2 halving cycles through to 2032. (At that point, we will easily be over USD 1m per coin).

We know its the "work" required which makes BTC valuable. We also know that any "proof of stake" asset basically has no value long term - we learned that with fiat already.

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« Reply #11676 on: January 11, 2025, 01:41:05 AM »
GIB - 180K
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« Reply #11677 on: January 11, 2025, 04:18:01 PM »

Do you know why obsidian is constantly gassing ethereum and shitting on Bitcoin???? BECAUSE HE HAS TOOO he is invested in ETHEREUM not BITCOIN!!! Derp derp  :'(
Well of course. That's no different than Saylor gassing Ethereum and boosting BTC. Or GIB with his BTC position.

But refute the numbers. The numbers don't lie. in 2048 a BTC block will yield 0.048828125 BTC. It is currently at 3.125 BTC. A BTC block in 2021 gave miners $425,000. Now a BTC block gets them under $300,000 even at BTC above $90,000. The price of a BTC block will go lower every 4 years.

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« Reply #11678 on: January 11, 2025, 04:29:29 PM »
A few points - the mining cost you have provided is the cost for some miners. However, some mine far more efficiently, and are in the 10K per coin range. (It also of course depends on how you factor in the cost of rigs). But miners are always gravitating towards cheaper and cheaper (and ultimately free) energy.

As BTC keeps declining in new supply, combined with increased demand, price will rocket up. Its like a double squeeze - less supply, continued demand, growing adoption, and measures in money printed fiat - BTC will rise exponentially over the next 2 halving cycles through to 2032. (At that point, we will easily be over USD 1m per coin).

We know its the "work" required which makes BTC valuable. We also know that any "proof of stake" asset basically has no value long term - we learned that with fiat already.
The cost or value of a mined block of BTC was $425,000 in 2021. It is now less than $300,000.

Let's look at some numbers. The current BTC hashrate is 746.52 EH/s.

https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/bitcoin/hashrate-chart

The most powerful miner currently is the S21e XP Hydro 3U which can hash at 860 TH/s. They can be bought for around $18-20k.

https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-s21e-xp-hydro-860th

The ratio of 746.52 EH/s to 860 TH/s is approximately 868,046.51. This means it would take about 868,047 of the most powerful ASIC miners (with a hash rate of 860 TH/s) to match the current Bitcoin network hashrate.

51% of 868,046 is approximately 442,703.46.

This means it would take around 442,704 of the most powerful ASIC miners available to potentially achieve a 51% attack on the Bitcoin network, based on the current network hashrate of 746.52 EH/s.

The cost to buy 442,704 ASIC miners at an average price of $20,000 each would be approximately $8.85 billion.

Contrast this with Ethereum:

As of January 11, 2025, approximately 27.95% of the total Ethereum (ETH) supply is staked.

To estimate the cost of acquiring 51% of the staked ETH:

1. Determine the total ETH supply: The circulating supply of ETH is approximately 120,488,566 coins.
2. Calculate the total staked ETH:

27.95% of 120,488,566 ETH is staked.
Total staked ETH ≈ 0.2795 × 120,488,566 ≈ 33,676,000 ETH.

3. Calculate 51% of the staked ETH:

51% of 33,676,000 ETH ≈ 0.51 × 33,676,000 ≈ 17,174,760 ETH.

4. Determine the current price of ETH: The price of Ethereum is approximately $3,287.28 per ETH.

5. Estimate the total cost:

Total cost ≈ 17,174,760 ETH × $3,287.28/ETH ≈ $56,462,000,000.

Therefore, acquiring 51% of the currently staked ETH would cost approximately $56.46 billion.

Note: This is a simplified estimate. In reality, purchasing such a large amount of ETH would likely drive up the price due to increased demand, resulting in a higher total cost. Additionally, liquidity constraints and market reactions could further impact the feasibility and expense of such an acquisition.

Let's say you have the ETH. Now you need to configure all your validators. There are currently around 500,000 validator machines. It is possible to run 50 validators on one machine with 64 GB RAM. But in reality it looks like there's an average of 2 validators per machine. So you would need around 250,000 computers with 64 GB RAM. Network switches and other accessories. That's probably another $1 billion+. You would need many people to configure the validators, get in a waiting list to become a validator.

Attacking Ethereum or Bitcoin would result in loss of funds of course. BTC's value would plummet and in ETH's case the value would plummet and the staker's holdings would be slashed. But it looks to me like it will be more expensive and time consuming to attack Ethereum than Bitcoin.

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« Reply #11679 on: January 11, 2025, 04:44:31 PM »
A few points - the mining cost you have provided is the cost for some miners. However, some mine far more efficiently, and are in the 10K per coin range. (It also of course depends on how you factor in the cost of rigs). But miners are always gravitating towards cheaper and cheaper (and ultimately free) energy.

As BTC keeps declining in new supply, combined with increased demand, price will rocket up. Its like a double squeeze - less supply, continued demand, growing adoption, and measures in money printed fiat - BTC will rise exponentially over the next 2 halving cycles through to 2032. (At that point, we will easily be over USD 1m per coin).

We know its the "work" required which makes BTC valuable. We also know that any "proof of stake" asset basically has no value long term - we learned that with fiat already.
Those numbers are not the cost of miners. It's the block reward. A BTC block is mined every 10 minutes. The network regulates itself to maintain a steady 1 block per 10 minutes. Not less and not more. The current BTC block reward is 3.125 BTC. To get the value in dollars you just multiply 3.125 by the price of BTC in dollars.

When BTC was $108,000 in 2024 the block reward was 3.125 x 108,000 = $337,500
When BTC was $68,000 in 2021 the block reward was 6.25 x 68,000 = $425,000

Even the company with the cheapest energy rate cannot mine more than 1 block every 10 minutes. So they are capped at the block reward and price of BTC. As I said, BTC would have to go to around $161k for a 2025 BTC block to match the inflation adjusted dollar value of a 2021 BTC block. So BTC miners can expect a steady decline in BTC mining income every year. Energy costs go up, miner rewards goes down, it centralizes more and more. The BTC price also peaks at a high value for a short period and then settles at a lower amount. So the miners are profitable for a few weeks and then it is another steady financial drain.

Ethereum staking does not have this issue as much. Solo validators do have infrastructure, hardware, electrical, internet and maintenance costs. Pool stakers don't. Pool stakers pay a fee for that infrastructure. But in the end the income is more guaranteed than BTC mining.

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« Reply #11680 on: January 13, 2025, 04:12:04 AM »
ETH is now down 44% to BTC over the last year. Pretty much right at the spot I predicted.

Obsidian - can you please please move just a little of that ETH to BTC! Please stop this stubborn madness. I want all here to be successful. You of all people, should see the opportunity literally right there in front of you.

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« Reply #11681 on: January 13, 2025, 11:22:20 AM »
ETH is now down 44% to BTC over the last year. Pretty much right at the spot I predicted.

Obsidian - can you please please move just a little of that ETH to BTC! Please stop this stubborn madness. I want all here to be successful. You of all people, should see the opportunity literally right there in front of you.

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« Reply #11682 on: January 14, 2025, 09:50:46 AM »
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That Schiff really is an idiot isn't he...


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11684 on: January 16, 2025, 02:49:28 PM »

My correlation calculations up and down moves. That’s what i had.

This method is the final boss. I expect this to break. I expect 245k due to it breaking.

98% expecting a big sell off. Hasn’t happened as correlation still dictates us. If anyone is repying on production metrics just keep in mind you only require direction, not the magnitude. It’s showing up, that’s all we need to know.

We aren’t gunning for a new ATH yet and will range. Event window Jan-Apr. equities going higher and I’m still long S&P and will add post window.

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« Reply #11685 on: January 18, 2025, 08:23:34 AM »
ETH JUST HIT A 4 YEAR LOW to BTC!!! And its very likely it will hit a 5 year low to BTC over the next year.

It seems quite a clear trend - Eth is between a rock and a hard place. Eth is bleeding. Its bleeding to BTC, and its bleeding into SOL.

ETH lost all claims of being an "alt" to BTC in terms of being a store of value. It's value derived from being a blockchain which facilitates smart-contracts, and as such, its value can be intrinsically calculated, which in turn massively limits the market cap of its blockchain and hence of its tokens. And further, that value is diluted as numerous other smart-contract "alts" emerge.

It is also well-known that Trump's new SEC head is a fan of Sol and BTC (and these guys are corrupt as hell when it comes to supporting their own investments).

So, here is where I think we are at:

1. BTC is established as the global store of value. BTC is where the world moves its wealth from fiat and other fiat hedges (such as property and stock and bonds and gold) over time. And that is one hell of a use case, which will attract a phenomenal and massive valuation in the years ahead.

2. There is no realistic "alt" to Bitcoin. That is now increasingly clear, even to shitcoiners.

3. The various other types of investments, often referred to as "alts" and "shitcoins", have nothing at all to do with BTC. Some are shares in projects which provide some utility. (Eth, Sol, FIL, UniSwap, ChainLink etc are example). And most are just outright useless scams. (And an infinite number of the latter can be produced, literally within seconds).

4. We should consider alts and shitcoins as investments in the same way we would consider an investment in any other business. Nothing magical about them just because your share is represented by a "crypto token". Whether you have a share in a bread factory, or an airline, or car manufacturer, or a "crypto project" - its all the same. Only with traditional business, there is far more scrutiny over their activities and over the fund raising, and so its far harder to raise capital legitimately than via an alt or shitcoin ICO. As such, these  traditional business are likely to be a far more viable investment than an alt or shitcoin. So, you need to ask yourself - why would any business issue shares in it via crypto token vs the traditional way? The answer? - most likely because with far less scrutiny, they can attract far more stupid money and suckers (at least in the short term) regardless of the lack of any fundamental value of what they are actually offering. What happens in the long term to such ventures? Money is of course not unlimited, and so what happens is that as they fail to live to expectations, the value of any share in such ventures declines. And for most, pretty much to zero.

5. So, what about the mythical "alt season" so many shitcoiners believe in and hope for? Well, this is largely a story that scammers tell to suck more money out of such naive fools (the scammers selling to them of course putting their own ill-gotten gains straight into BTC). A better phrase might actually be "idiot season". We may get an "alt season" when global liquidity leads to inflows which outweigh total supply of shitcoins, but due to shitcoins being able to be infinitely produced, such a "season" if it ever occurs again, will very quickly be met by new supply of newer shitcoins, again leading to declines. It's hard to believe this is still not obvious to all.

6. If you are to dabble in shitcoinery at all, do it at the bottom of a cycle when the world is feeling maximum economic pain. And even then, buy only projects that have some fundamental value. (Again, Filecoin, UniSwap, and ChainLink are examples of what you should consider in such situations).

But really, what to do, as I have explained many times before, it really is very very simple. Buy BTC., As much as you can. Keep stacking, and HODL. I have said time and time again that lessons will be learned. And again, that is now occurring...

All those who listened to me at the start of this thread should now have at least 1 BTC and so be worth at least 100K. There is really no excuse for anyone here who failed to do so.

But for anyone new here, or those who for some reason failed to listen - it's not too late. BTC WILL HIT 1m per coin. Again, I urge anyone who is not yet a wholecoiner, to get there as quickly as they can. All the info you need is in this thread. Please please do not waste this opportunity to set yourself for life.




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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11686 on: January 18, 2025, 12:36:51 PM »
Solana is a combination of Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia and Amazon.
Solana is on all the narratives (Defi, Depin, IA, Gaming, RWA etc.). Memecoins just serve as a stress test for the mainnet.
Solana is the only blockchain to generate tons of cash and to be in constant revolution and adaptation to all the new technologies that emerge. It adapts, implements and systematically corrects all the needs that confront it thanks to unrivaled responsiveness. The only part she won't have will be brought by Kaspa.
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« Reply #11687 on: January 18, 2025, 03:07:40 PM »
ETH JUST HIT A 4 YEAR LOW to BTC!!! And its very likely it will hit a 5 year low to BTC over the next year.

It seems quite a clear trend - Eth is between a rock and a hard place. Eth is bleeding. Its bleeding to BTC, and its bleeding into SOL.

OMG you just love to shit on ETH don't you. That's bullish as fuck!

Solana crashed to $175 literally a week ago. BTC crashed to $90K.

Now it pumped because of Trump's Meme coin and then you claim ETH is bleeding into SOL. Literally a week ago it was the reverse. You pick and choose your posts when the ETH chart is in the red. You should know by now that the line up to the top will not be a straight line.

Ethereum's fundamentals are better than Bitcoin or Solana. It's more expensive to attack ETH than BTC or SOL. ETH is more decentralized. ETH's current inflation is lower than BTC or SOL.

Here is the ETH chart. This looks bullish to me!


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« Reply #11688 on: January 18, 2025, 03:16:46 PM »
Solana is a combination of Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia and Amazon.
Solana is on all the narratives (Defi, Depin, IA, Gaming, RWA etc.). Memecoins just serve as a stress test for the mainnet.
Solana is the only blockchain to generate tons of cash and to be in constant revolution and adaptation to all the new technologies that emerge. It adapts, implements and systematically corrects all the needs that confront it thanks to unrivaled responsiveness. The only part she won't have will be brought by Kaspa.
Not sure how much you know about computer tech. The Solana blockhain is huge and bloated and growing daily. It's over 300TB. You need enterprise hardware just to store the chain.

Solana weighs in at a whopping 300 terabytes and growing at a rate of several terabytes per month. For comparison, Bitcoin is a lightweight at a very tiny 640G. You can keep that on a memory card.

https://www.node40.com/blog/why-tracking-solana-transactions-is-difficult/

I don't see how this will be sustainable in the long run. What happens when it reaches 1000TB?! It is growing in size too fast.

There's a 11.2 million SOL unlock coming in March that will inflate the supply by 2.29%.

https://solana.messari.io/token-unlocks

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« Reply #11689 on: January 18, 2025, 03:22:59 PM »
ETH is now down 44% to BTC over the last year. Pretty much right at the spot I predicted.

Obsidian - can you please please move just a little of that ETH to BTC! Please stop this stubborn madness. I want all here to be successful. You of all people, should see the opportunity literally right there in front of you.
This is so cringe. You're begging me to move ETH to BTC. I will never ever tell anyone to buy anything since I am not an investment adviser. The ETH / BTC chart is almost at the bottom. It is the worst time to pivot from ETH to BTC. ETH normally does well from January to June, based on 10 year price history. BTC tends to do better from July - December - historically.

I have BNB, DOGE and XRP holdings to tie me over while we wait for ETH to wake up.  ;D

Remember, 1 ETH = 1 ETH. Sometimes 10 ETH = 1 BTC. Other times 30 ETH = 1 BTC. And occasionally 3 ETH = 1 BTC

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« Reply #11690 on: January 18, 2025, 05:23:04 PM »

Either here or it falls to there.


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« Reply #11691 on: January 19, 2025, 01:45:07 AM »
This is so cringe. You're begging me to move ETH to BTC. I will never ever tell anyone to buy anything since I am not an investment adviser. The ETH / BTC chart is almost at the bottom. It is the worst time to pivot from ETH to BTC. ETH normally does well from January to June, based on 10 year price history. BTC tends to do better from July - December - historically.

I have BNB, DOGE and XRP holdings to tie me over while we wait for ETH to wake up.  ;D

Remember, 1 ETH = 1 ETH. Sometimes 10 ETH = 1 BTC. Other times 30 ETH = 1 BTC. And occasionally 3 ETH = 1 BTC

Obsidian - my aim is not to embarrass or try to humiliate you. Believe me, the purpose of all these comments, even if they do rub you the wrong way, is to motivate you to come to your senses and do the right thing. I am here to help, and I want everyone here to be successful. Your are one of the smartest guys here - and you deserve better. My comments on this topic are also for anyone else who is at risk of falling into a similar trap.

I'll say it again - in the long term, almost no investment will outperform BTC. In the short term, yes some "alts" always will, but the vast vast majority of people will fail at buying and selling such alts at the right time.

Honestly, that has been my genuine aim throughout since the start of this thread. To help ensure people here have the information both to protect them from losing money, and the information to succeed.

As for Eth doing well in Jan to June or whatever, and basing your investment strategy on such beliefs, that is a load of nonsense, and you know it. You have caught yourself up in "now ETH is about to do well" narratives for the last 3 years now - nothing has changed! It's the hardest thing in investing to take a loss and pivot, but yes that is what I am suggesting you do. Just average yourself out, perhaps moving 5% per month into BTC. What I do NOT want, is to be having this some conversation with you next year, or the year after. Come on mate - you know better. Detach yourself from irrational emotion, and take a step back and look at this big picture. Understand and internalize how, and why BTC is different from any other "alt" which attempts to syphon/scam/trick you into giving up your BTC, only to be rub-pulled, either slowly, or quickly - but either way - it's the same thing eventually.

PS - I am glad some of your other holdings are doing well. And even ETH has outperformed the USD, so that is good. (although I note that ETH is now around 3000 USD, vs a peak of 4500 USD back in 2021. So, not great... But again, either way, on a risk vs reward analysis, is should be so obvious what you need to do. And remember, none of these "investments" are in ventures which are a legitimate "alt" to BTC. (Well, DOGE in theory is, but in reality of course is not).

Just buy BTC and hodl. It is such an important asset to have exposure to, the to grow exposure to if at all possible.

Below you can see a chart showing how poorly Eth had performed against BTC over the last 3 years. And I have said earlier, I expect this trend to continue (for obvious reasons).

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« Reply #11692 on: January 19, 2025, 02:38:18 AM »
He is right, all paradigms have changed and ETH which is Canadian is dying because it is an outdated blockchain which brings nothing except a few hungry layers 2 which promise far too much.
Soon, it will be XRP that will die because it is technologically outdated, brings nothing and has never been able to bring improvement.
the United States will favor American cryptos and mainly Solana which is the only one to generate a daily volume of more than 10 billions and an annual balance sheet of billions.
The new deflationary mechanism + ETF + new institutional partnerships and new mainnet infrastructure implementations will bring it to $2,000.
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« Reply #11693 on: January 19, 2025, 03:06:22 AM »
Obsidian - my aim is not to embarrass or try to humiliate you. Believe me, the purpose of all these comments, even if they do rub you the wrong way, is to motivate you to come to your senses and do the right thing. I am here to help, and I want everyone here to be successful. Your are one of the smartest guys here - and you deserve better. My comments on this topic are also for anyone else who is at risk of falling into a similar trap.

I'll say it again - in the long term, almost no investment will outperform BTC. In the short term, yes some "alts" always will, but the vast vast majority of people will fail at buying and selling such alts at the right time.

Honestly, that has been my genuine aim throughout since the start of this thread. To help ensure people here have the information both to protect them from losing money, and the information to succeed.

As for Eth doing well in Jan to June or whatever, and basing your investment strategy on such beliefs, that is a load of nonsense, and you know it. You have caught yourself up in "now ETH is about to do well" narratives for the last 3 years now - nothing has changed! It's the hardest thing in investing to take a loss and pivot, but yes that is what I am suggesting you do. Just average yourself out, perhaps moving 5% per month into BTC. What I do NOT want, is to be having this some conversation with you next year, or the year after. Come on mate - you know better. Detach yourself from irrational emotion, and take a step back and look at this big picture. Understand and internalize how, and why BTC is different from any other "alt" which attempts to syphon/scam/trick you into giving up your BTC, only to be rub-pulled, either slowly, or quickly - but either way - it's the same thing eventually.

PS - I am glad some of your other holdings are doing well. And even ETH has outperformed the USD, so that is good. (although I note that ETH is now around 3000 USD, vs a peak of 4500 USD back in 2021. So, not great... But again, either way, on a risk vs reward analysis, is should be so obvious what you need to do. And remember, none of these "investments" are in ventures which are a legitimate "alt" to BTC. (Well, DOGE in theory is, but in reality of course is not).

Just buy BTC and hodl. It is such an important asset to have exposure to, the to grow exposure to if at all possible.

Below you can see a chart showing how poorly Eth had performed against BTC over the last 3 years. And I have said earlier, I expect this trend to continue (for obvious reasons).
I am more annoyed by your constant bashing of Ethereum than anything else. Ethereum's fundamentals are way better than BTC, SOL or XRP. Ripple released their stablecoin on Ethereum - lol!

I have Ripple, but it is not really a competitor to ETH.

I am giving Ethereum the whole of 2025 to prove it is worth what I think it is. I have it locked up in staking anyway. I would have liked to get in on Trump's meme coin. It caught many off guard. Some people reckon it is going to pump to around $100 billion in market cap soon. It's also helped Solana because it was released on it. Trump also has an Ethereum DEFI project, along with his NFTs. $TRUMP has already surpassed other established MEMEs like PEPE and Shiba INU. I think it will be fucked up if it goes to $100 billion considering how centralized it is. It's also stealing capital from all the other established cryptos. This is not what many thought when they talked about the "Trump Pump". His useless MEME is being pumped more than anything else.

Solana and XRP also pumped because they are seen as "US" crypto projects and there are rumors those would be included in a strategic reserve. The largest supply of stablecoins are on Ethereum, plus BlackRock is invested in it. So one could argue ETH also has some US roots.

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« Reply #11694 on: January 19, 2025, 03:14:49 AM »
He is right, all paradigms have changed and ETH which is Canadian is dying because it is an outdated blockchain which brings nothing except a few hungry layers 2 which promise far too much.
Soon, it will be XRP that will die because it is technologically outdated, brings nothing and has never been able to bring improvement.
the United States will favor American cryptos and mainly Solana which is the only one to generate a daily volume of more than 10 billions and an annual balance sheet of billions.
The new deflationary mechanism + ETF + new institutional partnerships and new mainnet infrastructure implementations will bring it to $2,000.
What a load of crap. Trump released a DEFI token on Ethereum. A major Swiss Bank just offered Ethereum Staking. It Ethereum is dying why are so many major players entering the Ethereum ecosystem?! Sony, BlackRock, Microsoft, etc.

You believe in magic if you think Solana's 300TB  blockchain that grows by terabytes every month will not be a train wreck in a few years. It will become too large to handle so they will start dumping transaction history like credit card companies. The beauty of blockchains is that ALL the transaction history is available. I would not be shocked if Solana experiences another shutdown at some point as it has done many times before.

Solana supporters like you bash the Ethereum L2 strategy and meanwhile Solana and Bitcoin are developing their own L2s. Very hypocritical and shady practice.

Ethereum is world-wide based. There are many US-based ETH developers and holders. I am one of them. I mined all my Ethereum in the US, not overseas. I paid taxes in the US. The largest US dollar stablecoin supply is on the Ethereum network.

https://news.bitcoin.com/major-swiss-bank-expands-crypto-offerings-with-ethereum-staking/

Major Swiss Bank Expands Crypto Offerings With Ethereum Staking

Swiss state-owned bank Post Finance AG has expanded its digital-asset offering by introducing staking for Ethereum (ETH), allowing holders to earn passive income. The bank plans to add staking for other tokens soon. Post Finance, which started trading and custody services for cryptocurrencies nearly a year ago, is the first systemically important bank to offer staking. This move comes as enthusiasm for digital assets grows in Switzerland and globally, fueled by rising prices and Donald Trump’s return to power in the U.S. Additionally, a group of Swiss crypto enthusiasts proposed a national referendum for the central bank to hold bitcoin in its reserves, alongside the dollar, euro, and gold. However, the Swiss National Bank remains skeptical of crypto assets.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/swiss-state-owned-bank-postfinance-expands-in-crypto-with-ethereum-staking

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11695 on: January 19, 2025, 04:46:36 AM »
Trump's World Liberty Financial holdings:



What Eric Trump has to say on X:

''I am extremely proud of what we continue to accomplish in crypto. $Trump is currently the hottest digital meme on earth and I truly believe that @WorldLibertyFi will revolutionize DeFi/Cefi and will be the future of finance. We are just getting started!''

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11696 on: January 19, 2025, 04:51:33 AM »
World Liberty Financial Dumps BTC For ETH Amid Treasury Shuffle

World Liberty Financial, the DeFi platform affiliated with the Trump family, has started dumping Bitcoin for Ethereum.

According to data from Arkham Intelligence, the exchange swapped 103 wrapped BTC worth approximately $10 million for 3,075 ETH on Jan. 14. It then transferred $61.4 million worth of ETH to multiple wallets, including Coinbase Prime.

The exchange explained the transfers in a Jan. 14 X post, stating that it only made routine movements of its crypto holdings for business purposes and did not intend to sell any tokens.

“We’re making routine movements of our crypto holdings as part of regular treasury management, and payment of fees and expenses and to address working capital requirements. To be clear, we are not selling tokens—we are simply reallocating assets for ordinary business purposes,” World Liberty wrote.

Following the transfers, World Liberty now has $17.27 million worth of crypto assets in its portfolio, including USDC ($7.08 million), ETH ($3.87 million), AAVE ($1.94 million), WBTC ($1.74 million) and LINK ($1.70 million).

This represents a significant drop from the $83 million it held on Dec. 17, according to Arkham Intelligence data.


https://thedefiant.io/news/defi/world-liberty-financial-dumps-btc-for-eth-amid-treasury-shuffle

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11697 on: January 19, 2025, 08:08:42 AM »
I'm seeing on X that Trump's World Liberty Financial has bought at least $20 million in ETH in the past hour.

Now holds $55.43 million in ETH compared to $5.49 million 3 days ago.

https://platform.spotonchain.ai/en/entity/2361?min_amount=4&date_range=9

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11698 on: January 19, 2025, 09:32:10 AM »
Trump's World Liberty Financial holdings:




You do realise how small this portfolio is right? Aside from their USD stable coins, they own barely more "crypto" than I do. And I am just one person.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11699 on: January 19, 2025, 09:38:08 AM »
You do realise how small this portfolio is right? Aside from their USD stable coins, they own barely more "crypto" than I do. And I am just one person.

Current portfolio is $141 million.

They're still buying more ETH, $78 million now.

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