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« Reply #12175 on: July 30, 2025, 03:51:35 AM »
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« Reply #12176 on: August 05, 2025, 12:32:25 AM »


Ten years after launch, Ethereum has evolved from a scrappy experiment to the hidden infrastructure powering Wall Street’s next generation of finance.

Stablecoins — digital dollars that live on Ethereum — power trillions in payments, tokenized assets and funds are moving on-chain, and Robinhood recently rolled out tokenized U.S. equities via Arbitrum, an Ethereum-based layer two.

Circle’s USDC — the second-largest stablecoin — still settles around 65% of its volume on Ethereum’s rails. According to CoinGecko’s latest “State of Stablecoins” report, Ethereum accounts for nearly 50% of all stablecoin activity.

Between Circle’s IPO and the stablecoin-focused GENIUS Act, now signed into law by President Donald Trump, regulators have new reason to engage with, rather than fight, this transformation.

Data from Deutsche Bank shows stablecoin transactions hit $28 trillion last year — more than Mastercard and Visa combined. The bank itself has announced plans to build a tokenization platform on zkSync, a fast, cost-efficient Ethereum layer two designed to help asset managers issue and manage tokenized funds, stablecoins, and other real-world assets while meeting regulatory and data protection requirements.

Digital asset exchanges like Coinbase and Kraken are racing to capture this crossover between traditional securities and crypto.

As part of its quarterly earnings release, Coinbase said this week it’s launching tokenized stocks and prediction markets for U.S. users in the coming months, a move that would diversify its revenue stream and bring it into more direct competition with brokerages like Robinhood and eToro.

Kraken announced plans to offer 24/7 trading of U.S. stock tokens in select overseas markets.

BlackRock’s tokenized money market fund, BUIDL, launched on Ethereum last year, offering qualified investors on-chain access to yield with real-time redemptions settled in USDC.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/02/ethereum-turns-10-from-scrappy-experiment-to-wall-streets-invisible-backbone.html

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« Reply #12177 on: August 05, 2025, 02:13:59 PM »
"The narrative of ETH is really powerful. There's not a lot of supply of ETH. I think ETH outperforms BTC in the next 6 months." - Mike Novogratz

Meanwhile they've sold almost a $1 billion BTC, possibly pivoting to ETH?

You trust the guy who go his last ETH forecast wrong by 300%+ ? At least he has calmed down a bit with a 5.5k forecast this year.

When 99% KNOW the exact timing and exact amount of a rotation, guess what happens 😱  Last time 99% called for bullishness, it dumped to $1,500….

Here’s a refresher of the chart I posted before. Timing the rotation will be the failure point because BTC won’t cycle peak in 2025.

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« Reply #12178 on: August 05, 2025, 06:05:56 PM »
You trust the guy who go his last ETH forecast wrong by 300%+ ? At least he has calmed down a bit with a 5.5k forecast this year.

When 99% KNOW the exact timing and exact amount of a rotation, guess what happens 😱  Last time 99% called for bullishness, it dumped to $1,500….

Here’s a refresher of the chart I posted before. Timing the rotation will be the failure point because BTC won’t cycle peak in 2025.
It should’ve never dropped to $1,500 in the first place—the Bybit hack definitely played a role. I bet the paper hands who sold at that level feel pretty foolish now that ETH is back above $3,500.

ETH is still extremely undervalued compared to BTC. It offers far superior economic security while using just a fraction of the energy. It’s like comparing alien tech to hunter-gatherer tools. Institutional adoption is ramping up fast, and we’re seeing more ETH-focused strategy firms emerge. Just like Saylor did with BTC, they’ll buy the top—and they won’t stop.

ETH has seen its fair share of crashes, just like early BTC. But the more it rebounds, the harder it becomes to justify panic selling. These tariff fears? Just noise—an excuse for weak hands to dump into stronger ones.

I’ve always been bullish on ETH. You’re the one who called me bearish, and now you’re the one flipping bearish. Pick a lane. I’m in this for the long run. Even when it crashes, I stay bullish.

ETH flipping BTC is still on the table. Its current market cap is already more than double what Bitcoin’s was in 2020—and ETH is over five years younger. That alone says a lot. Who knows where we’ll be by 2026?

Yes I am sure.

Forget headlines because you can’t quantify the data.

S&P to 7k
Property ATH this year and huge growth in 2026

This is the biggest wealth generating period in your lifetime and you have been bearish the entire time

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« Reply #12179 on: August 05, 2025, 08:13:24 PM »
Ooh I really nailed that quote!

S&P is 6,300 when everyone else said it’d tank like crazy. Property here hit ATH last month and that’s is my biggest bet.

It doesn’t mean everything goes up. Timing the rotation won’t be easy Particularly if BTC is catching bids from money that would have gone to commodities.

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« Reply #12180 on: August 06, 2025, 12:33:12 AM »
The Strategic ETH Reserve is now over $11 billion.

Three companies have overtaken the Ethereum Foundation.

https://www.strategicethreserve.xyz/

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« Reply #12181 on: August 06, 2025, 02:11:10 AM »
Ooh I really nailed that quote!

S&P is 6,300 when everyone else said it’d tank like crazy. Property here hit ATH last month and that’s is my biggest bet.

It doesn’t mean everything goes up. Timing the rotation won’t be easy Particularly if BTC is catching bids from money that would have gone to commodities.
I get the sense you're bearish ETH - right? Have you looked at the fundamentals?

ETH has been the best performing asset in the world the past 10 years. Nothing comes close. ETH did not exist when BTC was launched in 2009. It launched around 6 years later. And since then it has outperformed everything. Ethereum started at a ratio of 2000 ETH for 1 BTC.

Yes, ETH has performed like a dog the past few years. There's various reasons for this. But the bottom line IMO is it is completely mispriced and undervalued. We'll see what happens the next 10-20 years.


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« Reply #12182 on: August 06, 2025, 02:13:17 AM »
The Strategic ETH Reserve is now over $11 billion.

Three companies have overtaken the Ethereum Foundation.

https://www.strategicethreserve.xyz/
Nice. We need a few more companies. I will laugh if Microsoft adds it officially.

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« Reply #12183 on: August 06, 2025, 08:59:18 AM »
Cosmos Health secures up to $300M financing facility to launch Ethereum treasury strategy

Cosmos Health (NASDAQ:COSM) has entered into a securities purchase agreement with a U.S.-based institutional investor for the issuance of up to $300 million in senior secured convertible promissory notes to support the launch of its Ethereum (ETH) digital asset treasury reserve strategy.

Strategic accumulation of ETH to enhance long-term shareholder value through increasing ETH-per-share.

The company plans to explore additional yield-generating strategies to optimize cash flow and utility from ETH holdings.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/cosmos-health-secures-up-to-300m-financing-facility-to-launch-ethereum-treasury-strategy/ar-AA1K1bOA?ocid=finance-verthp-feeds

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« Reply #12184 on: August 06, 2025, 04:32:54 PM »

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« Reply #12185 on: August 06, 2025, 04:35:23 PM »
EDIT: I see Griffith posted this news in a prior page. Still leaving it though... lol!

https://www.ainvest.com/news/ethereum-news-today-fg-nexus-shifts-200m-treasury-ethereum-signaling-corporate-blockchain-adoption-2507/

Ethereum News Today: FG Nexus Shifts $200M Treasury to Ethereum Signaling Corporate Blockchain Adoption

- FG Nexus rebranded and allocated $200M to Ethereum, led by Moglia and Vujinovic with institutional support from Galaxy and Kraken.

- The move reflects growing institutional confidence in Ethereum as a corporate reserve asset and blockchain integration in traditional finance.

- Analysts predict this could accelerate Ethereum adoption in treasuries, mirroring MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy and reshaping digital asset allocations.

- The strategy leverages Ethereum's smart contracts and ecosystem growth, positioning it as a foundation for decentralized financial innovation.

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« Reply #12186 on: August 06, 2025, 04:38:20 PM »
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ethereum-treasury-stocks-better-buy-172342345.html

Ethereum Treasury Stocks 'Better Buy' Than ETH ETFs, Standard Chartered Says

Companies that are buying ether (ETH) for their treasury strategy are a better buy for investors than ETH spot exchange-traded funds (ETFs), said Standard Chartered analyst Geoff Kendrick.

The analyst noted that these firms are attracting attention not just for their holdings but also for their financial structure, which is starting to become attractive for investors.

“The NAV multiples (market cap divided by value of ETH held) have now also started to normalise for the ETH treasury companies,” said Kendrick, adding that this dynamic is making the "treasury companies now very investable for investors seeking access to ETH price appreciation."

Buying ETH for the balance sheet, following Michael Saylor's bitcoin (BTC) buying strategy, has taken off recently. Many publicly traded firms have jumped on board and seen their share prices surge initially, boosting their market cap and NAV multiples. Now, their NAV multiples are coming down from their initial peak.

Some of the top companies enjoying this market euphoria include BitMine Immersion Technologies (BMNR) and SharpLink Gaming (SBET).

Among these companies, Kendrick highlighted SharpLink Gaming's (SBET) NAV multiple, which at its peak was around 2.50 and is now coming down to a more normalized level of near 1.0. This means its market cap is only slightly higher than the value of its ETH holdings.

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« Reply #12187 on: August 06, 2025, 11:53:14 PM »
So much nonsense here re ETH.

As said, I will be back at BTC 125K. Till then, enjoy not being corrected and the ability to mislead with impunity. Till then enjoy my absence... :)

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« Reply #12188 on: August 07, 2025, 12:15:51 AM »
So much nonsense here re ETH.

As said, I will be back at BTC 125K. Till then, enjoy not being corrected and the ability to mislead with impunity. Till then enjoy my absence... :)
What nonsense? Ethereum has had a far greater impact on the crypto ecosystem than Bitcoin. It has a significantly higher economic security while using a fraction of the energy that Bitcoin consumes. An example would be me driving 100 miles somewhere on a hot day with AC blasting vs you walking a few days while sweating your ass off. BTC mining is hard and expensive but after all that effort a 51% attack on Bitcoin will be far easier than on Ethereum.

You tried to convince me to sell some ETH when it hit rock bottom against BTC a few months ago. Now, 3 months later, ETH is up 105% and BTC only 21%. Imagine that. I have never told you to sell BTC for anything. I never will. I am not desperate to recruit ETH holders. Because I know what Ethereum is worth.

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« Reply #12189 on: August 07, 2025, 12:28:46 AM »
So much nonsense here re ETH.

As said, I will be back at BTC 125K. Till then, enjoy not being corrected and the ability to mislead with impunity. Till then enjoy my absence... :)
BTC to $125k is only a 8.7% increase from where it sits now. Why would someone new to crypto get excited about that? It's great for someone with 50 or more BTC, but not for someone with 0 BTC. To be fair, the same thing applies to ETH at a higher price point. I am just saying that BTC at $125k is not a massive move anymore.

BTW, do you check your BTC balance often by just monitoring the address on a block explorer? I ask because some people have had funds stolen from self-custody software wallets. Yours is probably a hardware wallet. You can still confirm that the balance is there without logging into the wallet.

Hardware wallets have also been drained before. All they need are your seed words.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/194bu3m/ledger_nano_x_drained/

The best approach IMO is to create a virtual machine with nothing on it and a legitimate copy of the OS. You only interact with the wallet and exchanges via the VM, and never do anything else on it. And shutdown the VM when not in use. That way everything is isolated and malicious software, key loggers, etc. can be avoided.

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« Reply #12190 on: August 07, 2025, 12:38:23 AM »
BTC to $125k is only a 8.7% increase from where it sits now. Why would someone new to crypto get excited about that? It's great for someone with 50 or more BTC, but not for someone with 0 BTC.

And that's exactly the mentality shitcoin scammers have exploited, time and time again. Why settle for 30% annualized compounded growth to the decline in USD, when you can make 100x overnight with the latest shitcoin! Which is why we have seen hundreds and thousands of shitcoins come and go, NFTs, Memes, BTC lending / difi scams etc. The issuer is the one who makes the money. And if the buyer doesn't know who the sucker is - well they find out sooner or later...

And meanwhile, BTC over time just does its thing, slow and steady. Remember the story of the hare the and tortoise...

Agree - need to be very careful how we store our sats. Apart from security, there is also a tax exposure risk some of us need to factor in...

See you at 125...

By the way, my much bigger interest as I think you know, are stocks. I have just commenced quite a significant pivot towards Hong Kong, Singapore and China. Amazing time to invest in these regions right now...

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« Reply #12191 on: August 07, 2025, 12:50:43 AM »
And that's exactly the mentality shitcoin scammers have exploited, time and time again. Why settle for 30% annualized compounded growth to the decline in USD, when you can make 100x overnight with the latest shitcoin!
But that's the argument you used when BTC outperformed ETH so severely the past few years. You were saying: "Look how many x times BTC outperformed ETH". You were mocking the entire situation. But when the tables turn and ETH or some other coin vastly outperforms BTC, then it is a shitcoin.

If ETH was a shitcoin, why did the price recover back to almost $4,000 when it crashed to below $1,500 earlier this year? Should it not have continued on to $50 or lower which you deemed to be a fair value for it?

Don't forget that BTC also once crashed to 1 cent. Just because something crashes doesn't mean its a shitcoin.


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« Reply #12192 on: August 08, 2025, 05:08:36 AM »
Fundamental Global to raise $5 billion to launch Ethereum treasury

Fundamental Global to establish Ethereum treasury with $5 billion offering
Nasdaq-listed holding company Fundamental Global has filed an S-3 registration with the SEC to launch a $5 billion shelf offering. The company intends to use a majority of the proceeds from the offering to purchase ETH, with the rest allocated toward business operations.

The filing comes a few days after Fundamental Global revealed that it raised $200 million from a private placement to launch its Ethereum treasury. It also announced a rebrand to FG Nexus Inc., with a potential change of its NASDAQ ticker to FGNX and FGNXP.

Fundamental Global joins several other companies that are adopting an Ethereum-focused treasury, including SharpLink Gaming, BitMine and Bit Digital.

Fundamental Global’s stock rose 2% in after-hours trading on Thursday, while ETH is up 6% within the past 24 hours following the filing.

https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/fundamental-global-to-raise-5-billion-to-launch-ethereum-treasury-202508080230



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« Reply #12193 on: August 08, 2025, 08:26:00 AM »
So is the predictions still 175k. For BTC this cycle?

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« Reply #12194 on: August 08, 2025, 08:27:10 AM »
ETH hits 4K for the first time since December 2024!

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« Reply #12195 on: August 08, 2025, 09:47:31 AM »
So is the predictions still 175k. For BTC this cycle?

Around 145k for late Q4/Jan 2026.

Stock market could continue running hard into late 2026, the big unknown is if BTC will continue running with it or not.

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« Reply #12196 on: August 08, 2025, 11:15:50 AM »

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« Reply #12197 on: August 08, 2025, 11:20:43 AM »
Looks like many in this thread outperformed Saylor's Strategy. He did it at a massive scale, but Strategy invested $46.5 billion which is currently worth $73.4 billion. That's only a 1.57x. I know GIB is at around 23x with his BTC. Along with the other guy who has 26 BTC.

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« Reply #12198 on: August 08, 2025, 02:54:08 PM »
Wait a minute since inception isn’t BTC at 111.5K ROI and Ethereum is at 115K ROI  but BTC lowest price point was .06 cents a coin and Ethereum lowest is only .10 cents a coin. 

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« Reply #12199 on: August 08, 2025, 05:19:40 PM »
Wait a minute since inception isn’t BTC at 111.5K ROI and Ethereum is at 115K ROI  but BTC lowest price point was .06 cents a coin and Ethereum lowest is only .10 cents a coin.
BTC's increase since inception or low point dwarves ETH's current gains. Some sites indicate BTC's current gains at around 136 million percent, or 1.36 million factor increase. In other words, $1 turns into $1,360,000. But BTC flash crashed to 1 cent for a brief period. That's actually a more than 1.16 billion increase from 1 cent to BTC's current $116,500 price. In other words, $1 turns into $11,650,000.

Ethereum presale (July 22 – Sept 2, 2014) was priced in BTC, because ETH didn’t exist yet.
  • First 14 days: 1 BTC = 2,000 ETH
  • After day 14, the rate gradually decreased until the end of the sale.
  • By the end, 1 BTC was worth about 1,337 ETH.
So the 2,000 ETH per BTC deal was for the earliest investors — basically the ones who trusted the whitepaper before the network was live.

Opportunity Cost Analysis (1 BTC → 2,000 ETH at ICO)
Let’s compare what would have happened if someone in mid-2014:
  • Held 1 BTC
  • Vs. swapped that 1 BTC for 2,000 ETH at the ICO rate (~$0.30/ETH)
1) Holding 1 BTC
  • You retain 1 BTC
  • At today’s price (~$116,685), that 1 BTC is now worth approx $116,685
2) Exchanging 1 BTC for 2,000 ETH
  • You’d have 2,000 ETH purchased at ~$0.30 each
  • At today’s ETH price (~$4,011), that’s: 2,000×4,011=$8,022,000
  • So your initial BTC investment (worth ~$600 back then) would now be valued at over $8 million