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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12625 on: December 17, 2025, 02:00:10 PM »
I'll post my Gold levels again for those who aren't sure what is going to happen. Plus it's Christmas :D

156k is set in the bag. It's iron clad guaranteed the next ATH top target 🎯 just like every other level I had on here before it was tagged. I keep with my 241k target overall and evaluate from there.

And again for the pattern - 2011 single, 2013 double, 2017 single, 2021 double, 2025..... We look for single peak.

Gold 10yr cycle tracking absolutely perfect.

I won't post my other awesome stuff, this is enough.

I shall now go back to my fuckwittery posting. Godspeed.

I am hopeful about selling at 150K

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12626 on: December 17, 2025, 02:05:38 PM »
I'll post my Gold levels again for those who aren't sure what is going to happen. Plus it's Christmas :D

156k is set in the bag. It's iron clad guaranteed the next ATH top target 🎯 just like every other level I had on here before it was tagged. I keep with my 241k target overall and evaluate from there.

And again for the pattern - 2011 single, 2013 double, 2017 single, 2021 double, 2025..... We look for single peak.

Gold 10yr cycle tracking absolutely perfect.

I won't post my other awesome stuff, this is enough.

I shall now go back to my fuckwittery posting. Godspeed.

I've seen enough of your posts to not doubt you.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12627 on: December 21, 2025, 09:36:18 PM »
Binance staked half a Billion dollars of ETH this week.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12628 on: December 22, 2025, 09:28:27 PM »
2026 end of year predictions anyone?

I'll start - BTC at 200K USD.

Eth up from current price, but at a lesser delta than BTC.

Gold up around 20% YOY.

Most global stock markets up. S&P up 10%. China and HK markets up 30%. Europe up 5%.

10 year Treasury yield 75 bps lower.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12629 on: December 22, 2025, 10:52:40 PM »
Makes you wonder with all these ETH flows, how much of it is transfers.

Almost 6 months of straight money pouring into ETH ETFs yet no movement.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12630 on: Today at 12:38:20 AM »
Makes you wonder with all these ETH flows, how much of it is transfers.

Almost 6 months of straight money pouring into ETH ETFs yet no movement.
ETH ETFs have seen mostly outflows since the October 10th liquidation event. See Farside for the flows. Tom Lee is buying, but the ETFs are selling. The ETHZilla DAT also had to sell recently.



The ETH:BTC ratio has also gone up and down in an upward trend. See the 2020-2021 cycle.



But it is hard to ignore the BTC.D trend.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12631 on: Today at 12:46:40 AM »
2026 end of year predictions anyone?

I'll start - BTC at 200K USD.

Eth up from current price, but at a lesser delta than BTC.

Gold up around 20% YOY.

Most global stock markets up. S&P up 10%. China and HK markets up 30%. Europe up 5%.

10 year Treasury yield 75 bps lower.
BTC has had as easy ride from 2023-2025. ETH could end 2025 with nine consecutive monthly red candles, plus another red candle in December 2024. That’s comparable to ETH’s 2018–2019 bear cycle. In that sense, ETH has already been thoroughly tested. The question is whether 2026 becomes BTC’s turn to be tested.

It’s hard to deny that this BTC.D chart looks potentially bearish for Bitcoin. Alts have been in the gutter for nearly four years now, and most weak hands have already exited. The ones still holding don’t see much point in selling at these depressed levels.

I’d like to think ETH could reach $10–20k next year, or even higher. But I’m aware that I’m far more bullish than most, so I won’t make firm predictions — my bias skews them.

But this chart… ;D


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12632 on: Today at 12:31:11 PM »
ETH ETFs have seen mostly outflows since the October 10th liquidation event. See Farside for the flows. Tom Lee is buying, but the ETFs are selling. The ETHZilla DAT also had to sell recently.



The ETH:BTC ratio has also gone up and down in an upward trend. See the 2020-2021 cycle.



But it is hard to ignore the BTC.D trend.



Argh fuck a duck, I see what the cheeky bastard did on the chart I look at. Ok, ok. Well that makes much more sense now because I was scratching my head going there isn't anyone with that much to transfer.

I understand dominance. I had that line for years and everyone said I was wrong and it would go to 0.055.... then it hit my line and also tagged 4.9k vs my 5.1k target. I agree your chart looks good..... Through the eyes of an Autist on lower time-frames I can see the timing shift which nullifies that 12mth view pattern because at some point the big red candle shifts to a different year.

Hence I stated many times trying to time the rotation will get you wrecked. This will hit way worse next time around. I'm assuming I continue to be correct of course but no need for me to change course yet, it's still BTC FTW for quite a while.

Why is everyone so bullish on ETH for 2026? Is the only reason "it didn't hit my target, therefore I will be correct next year"?   

On a different note, property here is currently +9.1% vs my 10% target for 2025 i had 5yrs ago. I looked horrifically wrong the first half but I said just wait, hold your horses and BAM explosion of the market 😉 Media is beating up 2026 property market quoting rate rises meanwhile I have +13.5% growth next year and -0.5% cuts lol. 

 Fuck the media, fuck economists is my policy at this point. They have been so wrong these last 5yrs.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12633 on: Today at 02:49:17 PM »
2026 end of year predictions anyone?

I'll start - BTC at 200K USD.

Eth up from current price, but at a lesser delta than BTC.

Gold up around 20% YOY.

Most global stock markets up. S&P up 10%. China and HK markets up 30%. Europe up 5%.

10 year Treasury yield 75 bps lower.

Well QE has slowly started (in stealth mode) so there are good reasons to be optimistic for 2026.

As long as there aren't any forced unwinds from crypto entities blowing up in 2026 I can see BTC at somewhere around 130-150K

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12634 on: Today at 06:09:46 PM »
Why is everyone so bullish on ETH for 2026? Is the only reason "it didn't hit my target, therefore I will be correct next year"?   
I’m always very bullish on ETH, so I’m genuinely curious — what’s your actual bearish case for it? I get the narrative that a lot of tokenization and institutional adoption might happen on private or permissioned chains like Canton, and that some stablecoins are launching on more controllable L1s. In that scenario, the bear case is basically: all the adoption Tom Lee expects on Ethereum happens somewhere else. But we’ll see — SOFI Bank just launched a stablecoin on Ethereum, so there’s clearly still real activity building on mainnet.

To me, ETH is massively undervalued relative to BTC. It has strong fundamentals, is actively upgraded, and hasn’t suffered multi-day outages like Solana. Yet 1 BTC trades for ~30 ETH when the supply ratio is closer to 6:1. ETH’s current inflation is around 0.8%, slightly lower than BTC’s ~0.83% even after the most recent halving, and there’s a good chance ETH’s effective inflation will remain lower into 2028 — especially if transaction volume and burn increase.

On the BTC side, I actually see a clearer bearish case. AI datacenters are now competing directly with Bitcoin for energy. Microsoft locking up the Three Mile Island nuclear plant for 25 years to power AI is a perfect example of where capital and electricity are being redirected. Bitcoin’s security comes from mining, but block rewards keep getting cut in half every four years. If price and fees don’t fully offset each halving, miner revenue and the security budget trend down. Combine that with miners pivoting to AI workloads, and you’re looking at a structurally shrinking security budget over time. At some point, that does become a non-trivial risk.

On top of that, most ASICs are manufactured in China, so Bitcoin’s hardware supply chain — and by extension its security — is heavily dependent on one geopolitical region. Ethereum, by contrast, uses a fraction of the power, doesn’t rely on specialized mining hardware, isn’t in a bidding war with AI for electricity, and is well-positioned for “proof-of-human” and AI-aligned use cases. The market is mostly ignoring these dynamics right now, which probably explains the current ETH/BTC pricing — but that doesn’t mean the risk/reward picture isn’t skewed in Ethereum’s favor.

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The plant’s reopening will support at least 650 permanent jobs and hundreds of other positions during the recommissioning process.

https://penncapital-star.com/economy/microsoft-describes-three-mile-island-plant-as-a-once-in-a-lifetime-opportunity/


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