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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12775 on: February 16, 2026, 05:02:22 AM »
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12776 on: February 16, 2026, 05:10:27 AM »
Harvard Management Co (HMC) Cuts BlackRock Bitcoin ETF Exposure by 21%, Rotates to Ethereum.

Harvard Management Co (HMC), the entity managing Harvard University’s endowment, has trimmed its holdings in BlackRock Bitcoin ETF (IBIT). The company has opened a new multimillion-dollar position in an Ethereum ETF, indicating strategic rebalancing toward ETH.

Harvard University’s endowment management company has sold 1.48 million shares of BlackRock’s IBIT, cutting its Bitcoin ETF holdings by 21% from $442.8 million to $265.8 million in Q4.

At the same time, it opened a fresh $86.8 million position in BlackRock Ethereum ETF (ETHA), according to US SEC filing. Harvard ended the quarter with almost $352.6 million in crypto exposure, with a shift in investments from BTC to ETH.

Fundstrat’s Tom Lee emphasizing on Ethereum’s role in the artificial intelligence industry likely led to Harvard Management Co investing in ETH for the first time. He has also publicly advocated for Ethereum’s lead in other areas like decentralized finance, smart contracts, and layer-2 scaling.

https://coingape.com/harvard-management-co-hmc-cuts-blackrock-bitcoin-etf-exposure-by-21-rotates-to-ethereum/
I will not be surprised at all if BTC is forked to become a POS chain. They also have to plan for a quantum future. It will be hardforked IMO. Just a matter of when. Bitcoin can continue on and still be valuable even despite all that. But the POW model is fucked long-term.

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« Reply #12777 on: February 16, 2026, 01:05:02 PM »
I will not be surprised at all if BTC is forked to become a POS chain. They also have to plan for a quantum future. It will be hardforked IMO. Just a matter of when. Bitcoin can continue on and still be valuable even despite all that. But the POW model is fucked long-term.

Any fork of BTC, hard or soft, is fine so long as you still hold the underlying branch prior to any such fork.

On a related note, I have again done some calculations on how I would value tokens of legitimate value (Eth being one of them). Hard to value exactly, and so many extrapolations. Eth does have real potential, but based on current revenue, vs market cap, I put it around the $250 to $500 mark per token (that assumes a PE of between 80-160). I actually think SOL as real value too - also similarly overvalued by the way. But I am getting my research done - at the right time I'll buy 10 such "alt" tokens (although alt is not really the right word to correctly describe them). My valuation is not necessarily what the market will pay for them. Indeed the market may well overvalue (or undervalue) such tokens for many years to come. But I am a long term value investor - simply buy and let the market do its things - over time, all things gravitate to true value.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12778 on: February 16, 2026, 03:05:20 PM »
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« Reply #12779 on: February 16, 2026, 03:49:04 PM »
On a related note, I have again done some calculations on how I would value tokens of legitimate value (Eth being one of them). Hard to value exactly, and so many extrapolations. Eth does have real potential, but based on current revenue, vs market cap, I put it around the $250 to $500 mark per token (that assumes a PE of between 80-160).
Applying PE ratios to ETH doesn’t really make sense since it isn’t an equity and token holders don’t receive protocol “earnings” the way shareholders do. Network fees and burn aren’t corporate profits.

Also, dollar price targets ignore USD debasement and global liquidity expansion. A $250 ETH in 2020 dollars isn’t the same thing today.

If BTC doesn’t need cash flows or PE metrics to justify its value as a monetary asset, it’s inconsistent to force ETH into a stock valuation model while exempting BTC. Crypto prices are driven by network effects, monetary premium, adoption, and liquidity cycles — not just revenue multiples.

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« Reply #12780 on: February 17, 2026, 04:37:41 AM »
Applying PE ratios to ETH doesn’t really make sense since it isn’t an equity and token holders don’t receive protocol “earnings” the way shareholders do. Network fees and burn aren’t corporate profits.

Also, dollar price targets ignore USD debasement and global liquidity expansion. A $250 ETH in 2020 dollars isn’t the same thing today.

If BTC doesn’t need cash flows or PE metrics to justify its value as a monetary asset, it’s inconsistent to force ETH into a stock valuation model while exempting BTC. Crypto prices are driven by network effects, monetary premium, adoption, and liquidity cycles — not just revenue multiples.

I think we are actually pretty much aligned on ETH's use and potential.

However, I would say you do value an income earning protocol exactly as you would a security. You look at revenue, costs, dilution and/or burning of the token, and then extrapolate for the estimately likely life of the business, and taken into account moat/competition. Whether you call ETH a "security" or not, this is the fundamental basis of all asset valuations, and what, over the long term, the market will eventually gravitate to.

The problem with most crypto when launched (and indeed any "hot" company or tech start-up / IPO), is that investor enthusiasm hyped up by marketers etc, WAY overvalue the asset. Where I come in, is that I buy things at fair or below value. Like Buffet. Sometimes I miss the boat as a result - eg, I missed Google at the IPO thinking it was overvalued. I for many years missed Amazon and MSFT (I have all now, but bought later than in hindsight I wished I had).

So, in any case, using my valuation methods, ETH comes in at $250-500 per coin (and that is valuing it as a high growth tech-type stock). Obviously if the USD devalues, the value of any asset measured in USD would increase in the inverse direction - that applies to all assets.

BTC I would put into another category entirely - it has no "earnings" and its sole utility is that of being the ultimate and perfect global ledger for economic energy. So, BTC really either has almost infinite upside, if it really continues to be adopted to serve this function, or it gtravitates to zero. Its ultimately binary, one way or the other. Its totally different for ETH, and many other revenue generating protocols. For each of them, in a long run, their value is measured by their earnings (and that can be "distributed", either by payouts, issuing more tokens or staking, or by burning - akin to a stock "buy-back". But ultimately, if no revenue, or if revenue exceeds costs, such tokens all must go to zero. On the other hand, if such metrics are positive, their value will be reflected by how that revenue (for all the risk taken), compares with a risk free rate of return on cash (eg US Treasury yield).

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12781 on: February 17, 2026, 01:53:56 PM »




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« Reply #12782 on: February 17, 2026, 04:11:20 PM »


To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, "When you own Bitcoin, you own an electron's fart".


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« Reply #12783 on: February 17, 2026, 10:43:16 PM »

To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, "When you own Bitcoin, you own an electron's fart".

Yet the price will still eventually go a lot higher from here.


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« Reply #12784 on: February 18, 2026, 08:06:42 AM »
Yet the price will still eventually go a lot higher from here.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12785 on: February 18, 2026, 08:29:30 AM »
Keep stacking satoshis!

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« Reply #12786 on: February 18, 2026, 10:32:27 AM »

To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, "When you own Bitcoin, you own an electron's fart".

And to quote myself, "when you own fiat, you own something akin to what you would wipe you ass with..."

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« Reply #12787 on: February 18, 2026, 11:00:12 AM »
And to quote myself, "when you own fiat, you own something akin to what you would wipe you ass with..."
Ill stick with blue chips. Keep rolling them dice! LOL!
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« Reply #12788 on: February 19, 2026, 06:05:08 PM »
I think we are actually pretty much aligned on ETH's use and potential.

However, I would say you do value an income earning protocol exactly as you would a security. You look at revenue, costs, dilution and/or burning of the token, and then extrapolate for the estimately likely life of the business, and taken into account moat/competition. Whether you call ETH a "security" or not, this is the fundamental basis of all asset valuations, and what, over the long term, the market will eventually gravitate to.

The problem with most crypto when launched (and indeed any "hot" company or tech start-up / IPO), is that investor enthusiasm hyped up by marketers etc, WAY overvalue the asset. Where I come in, is that I buy things at fair or below value. Like Buffet. Sometimes I miss the boat as a result - eg, I missed Google at the IPO thinking it was overvalued. I for many years missed Amazon and MSFT (I have all now, but bought later than in hindsight I wished I had).

So, in any case, using my valuation methods, ETH comes in at $250-500 per coin (and that is valuing it as a high growth tech-type stock). Obviously if the USD devalues, the value of any asset measured in USD would increase in the inverse direction - that applies to all assets.

BTC I would put into another category entirely - it has no "earnings" and its sole utility is that of being the ultimate and perfect global ledger for economic energy. So, BTC really either has almost infinite upside, if it really continues to be adopted to serve this function, or it gtravitates to zero. Its ultimately binary, one way or the other. Its totally different for ETH, and many other revenue generating protocols. For each of them, in a long run, their value is measured by their earnings (and that can be "distributed", either by payouts, issuing more tokens or staking, or by burning - akin to a stock "buy-back". But ultimately, if no revenue, or if revenue exceeds costs, such tokens all must go to zero. On the other hand, if such metrics are positive, their value will be reflected by how that revenue (for all the risk taken), compares with a risk free rate of return on cash (eg US Treasury yield).
BTC absolutely has an “earnings model” — it’s the miner security budget funded by block subsidies and fees. The subsidy halves every 4 years by design.

2025’s ATH wasn’t even 2× 2021’s ATH, while block rewards are now half and USD purchasing power is ~20% lower. In real terms, miner revenue power is down materially.

Long-term Bitcoin security therefore does depend on price appreciation and/or massive fee growth to make miners whole. That’s not optional but structural to how Bitcoin is secured.

Saying “BTC doesn’t need earnings” is really just assuming perpetual price growth or fee scaling, neither of which is guaranteed. This is really just belief about the future, not something economics guarantees.

If ETH must justify its valuation economically, BTC should too — especially since its security literally depends on ongoing incentives.

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« Reply #12789 on: Today at 10:33:08 AM »
BTC absolutely has an “earnings model” — it’s the miner security budget funded by block subsidies and fees. The subsidy halves every 4 years by design.

2025’s ATH wasn’t even 2× 2021’s ATH, while block rewards are now half and USD purchasing power is ~20% lower. In real terms, miner revenue power is down materially.

Long-term Bitcoin security therefore does depend on price appreciation and/or massive fee growth to make miners whole. That’s not optional but structural to how Bitcoin is secured.

Saying “BTC doesn’t need earnings” is really just assuming perpetual price growth or fee scaling, neither of which is guaranteed. This is really just belief about the future, not something economics guarantees.

If ETH must justify its valuation economically, BTC should too — especially since its security literally depends on ongoing incentives.

Its a common misunderstanding s to think: If miners stop being incentivized, Bitcoin fails.”

That’s not correct. Bitcoin only requires at least one economically rational miner, with enough hash power, to keep blocks coming.

Remember that the difficulty adjustment ensures that any level of hash rate can sustain the chain. There will always be some miners profitable and some who are not - this is how capitalism works.

Lets imagine that something extreme like 90% of miners disappear:

-Difficulty then drops
-The remaining 10% get 10× the share of rewards
-Mining resumes at equilibrium, and repeat.

Security would degrades gradually and slightly during part of this phase, but not in any way that poses any realistic risk to the blockchain.

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« Reply #12790 on: Today at 01:19:05 PM »
Its a common misunderstanding s to think: If miners stop being incentivized, Bitcoin fails.”

That’s not correct. Bitcoin only requires at least one economically rational miner, with enough hash power, to keep blocks coming.

Remember that the difficulty adjustment ensures that any level of hash rate can sustain the chain. There will always be some miners profitable and some who are not - this is how capitalism works.

Lets imagine that something extreme like 90% of miners disappear:

-Difficulty then drops
-The remaining 10% get 10× the share of rewards
-Mining resumes at equilibrium, and repeat.

Security would degrades gradually and slightly during part of this phase, but not in any way that poses any realistic risk to the blockchain.
A significant drop in miner participation makes a 51% attack much easier — especially if only 10% of miners remain active. If Bitcoin's market cap is expected to reach $10 trillion someday, this is a serious risk that mainstream media isn't addressing enough. Or perhaps there's a conspiracy to allow Bitcoin to eventually fail, thereby discrediting the entire crypto ecosystem.

Meanwhile, the staked ETH supply jumped by 2 million ETH from January 1, 2026, to February 20, 2026. That's a healthy increase, and there are signs it could continue if ETF staking is officially approved. More ETH locked up means greater scarcity. From a pure scarcity perspective, the ETH:BTC ratio looks absurd: there are roughly 6 ETH for every 1 BTC, yet BTC is trading at over 34 ETH! ETH's issuance rate and dynamics make this disparity even more striking.

https://beaconcha.in/charts/staked_ether

ETH's inflation rate is currently around 0.815% annualized (7-day resolution on Ultrasound Money), edging slightly below Bitcoin's 0.823% post-halving rate.

https://ultrasound.money/?timeFrame=d7


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« Reply #12791 on: Today at 02:08:01 PM »
A significant drop in miner participation makes a 51% attack much easier — especially if only 10% of miners remain active. If Bitcoin's market cap is expected to reach $10 trillion someday, this is a serious risk that mainstream media isn't addressing enough. Or perhaps there's a conspiracy to allow Bitcoin to eventually fail, thereby discrediting the entire crypto ecosystem.

Meanwhile, the staked ETH supply jumped by 2 million ETH from January 1, 2026, to February 20, 2026. That's a healthy increase, and there are signs it could continue if ETF staking is officially approved. More ETH locked up means greater scarcity. From a pure scarcity perspective, the ETH:BTC ratio looks absurd: there are roughly 6 ETH for every 1 BTC, yet BTC is trading at over 34 ETH! ETH's issuance rate and dynamics make this disparity even more striking.

https://beaconcha.in/charts/staked_ether

ETH's inflation rate is currently around 0.815% annualized (7-day resolution on Ultrasound Money), edging slightly below Bitcoin's 0.823% post-halving rate.

https://ultrasound.money/?timeFrame=d7

Stop with the midwit takes. You really think this big sexy stud (no homo) is gonna let BTC fail?



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« Reply #12792 on: Today at 02:41:37 PM »
Stop with the midwit takes. You really think this big sexy stud (no homo) is gonna let BTC fail?



Institutional adoption isn’t a security model. BlackRock doesn’t secure Bitcoin, fund miners, or backstop the protocol — they sell products based on demand and risk/return. They shut down ETFs all the time when flows dry up.

If Bitcoin’s security budget weakens or quantum / geopolitical risks increase, institutions won’t “save” the network — they’ll rotate capital into other vehicles. That’s what asset managers do.

The real issue isn’t whether Larry Fink likes BTC — it’s whether Bitcoin’s long-term security budget scales with the value it’s supposed to secure. ETFs don’t solve that. BlackRock doesn’t “protect Bitcoin.” BlackRock exits, pivots, and launches something else.

BlackRock to shut six ETFs on low demand

https://www.etfstream.com/news/blackrock-shut-to-six-etfs-on-low-demand

BlackRock Increases Stake in Ethereum Treasury Company BitMine

https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/02-14-2026-blackrock-increases-stake-in-ethereum-treasury-company-bitmine-291589915932962