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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #1100 on: December 12, 2017, 12:30:48 PM »
pump and dump , this is eventually all going to explode horribly

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« Reply #1101 on: December 12, 2017, 01:05:54 PM »

They are skimming big $$$ from their own exchange(Gemini) so they don't need to sell. The exchanges are the weakness. People will be begging for regulation on them as they continue to be clunky and cost people money on trades mark my words.

Dude, you don't have to try and convince me there is something rotten in Denmark.  No offense to the Danish.

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« Reply #1102 on: December 12, 2017, 01:07:16 PM »
well you cant lose on bitcoins

you just cant

its the future

no matter how much you put in you gonna make at least x1000 more, probably more likely x10000

in fact, in the future everyone will be a multimillionaire.

last i heard companies, thousands of them have started to pay their workers in bitcoins.

bitcoins just goes up and up, there is no roof, no ceiling, not now, not ever.

i've talked to a lot of people in finance, they all say the same thing - wanna know the inside on bitcoins? go to bodybuilding msg boards. and so i did. and here i am.

Cool.  Good luck man.

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« Reply #1103 on: December 12, 2017, 01:14:36 PM »
Bitcoin has just overtaken "Tulip Mania" (circa 1637) as the biggest economic bubble of all time.  Big ger than the Great Depression real estate bubble.  Way bigger than the dot-com bubble.  Where it all ends, nobody knows.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24589/bitcoin-makes-history-biggest-bubble-ever-james-barrett?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro


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« Reply #1104 on: December 12, 2017, 01:17:25 PM »
pump and dump , this is eventually all going to explode horribly

It's going to create a shit storm.  People will be filing law suits against crypto exchanges.  Some will commit suicide.  Can you imagine selling your house so you can buy more bitcoins?  That is exactly what people were doing towards the end of tulip mania in 1637.  Totally absurd.  This is the biggest Ponzi bubble mania in history.  

For Christ's sake, you guys that made decent profits... get out NOW while you still can.  When everyone is running for the exit at the same time, you will not be able to sell.

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« Reply #1105 on: December 12, 2017, 01:19:30 PM »
GIB is going to turn into a billionaire!

Watch and see!
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« Reply #1106 on: December 12, 2017, 01:25:35 PM »
GIB is going to turn into a billionaire!

Watch and see!

He claimed in past posts here he makes $500K per year and has more than $6 million in assets.  No way to verify that, but if it is true, I can respect that, no matter how much we banter back and forth.

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« Reply #1107 on: December 12, 2017, 01:27:54 PM »
He claimed in past posts here he makes $500K per year and has more than $6 million in assets.  No way to verify that, but if it is true, I can respect that, no matter how much we banter back and forth.

GIB is likely a full time neurosurgeon, astrophysicist, and part time biomedical engineer.
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« Reply #1108 on: December 12, 2017, 01:36:38 PM »
Bitcoin has just overtaken "Tulip Mania" (circa 1637) as the biggest economic bubble of all time.  Big ger than the Great Depression real estate bubble.  Way bigger than the dot-com bubble.  Where it all ends, nobody knows.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24589/bitcoin-makes-history-biggest-bubble-ever-james-barrett?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro



The price of 1 bitcoin could get a lot more insane though.  At the height of tulip mania, one single tulip bulb cost more than an average persons yearly wage.  With that in mind, bitcoin still has another $20-30K to go before they reach that level.  Crazy I know, but maniacal asset bubbles can go on for a very long time before they pop.  

At least a tulip bulb turns into a pretty flower that smells nice.

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« Reply #1109 on: December 12, 2017, 01:42:26 PM »
gib might have a lot of money but how big are his quads?

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« Reply #1110 on: December 12, 2017, 02:33:33 PM »
I just bought more gold and silver today. 

Dirt cheap, especially silver.

Cheap huh? How can you value something that produces no yield?

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« Reply #1111 on: December 12, 2017, 02:36:28 PM »

They are skimming big $$$ from their own exchange(Gemini) so they don't need to sell. The exchanges are the weakness. People will be begging for regulation on them as they continue to be clunky and cost people money on trades mark my words.

Gemini is regulated I believe. So any “skimming” would via a disclosed commission (just like when you trade stocks).

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« Reply #1112 on: December 12, 2017, 02:37:35 PM »
gib might have a lot of money but how big are his quads?

Not very big these days :(

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« Reply #1113 on: December 12, 2017, 02:41:06 PM »
He claimed in past posts here he makes $500K per year and has more than $6 million in assets.  No way to verify that, but if it is true, I can respect that, no matter how much we banter back and forth.

Thank you! We could actually verify my claims if we had a trusted mod or Ron do a video call with me and watch me live as I log on to various accounts and show balances. Would be a little wierd though!

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« Reply #1114 on: December 12, 2017, 02:43:07 PM »
The price of 1 bitcoin could get a lot more insane though.  At the height of tulip mania, one single tulip bulb cost more than an average persons yearly wage.  With that in mind, bitcoin still has another $20-30K to go before they reach that level.  Crazy I know, but maniacal asset bubbles can go on for a very long time before they pop.  

At least a tulip bulb turns into a pretty flower that smells nice.


Good to see Mr A ratcheting up his prediction of when the price might peak. That’s the spirit! I think 40k by end of 2018 is likely.

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« Reply #1115 on: December 12, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »
$17,100

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« Reply #1116 on: December 12, 2017, 03:26:39 PM »
could be 40k by the end of 2018
could be 4k by the end of 2018
could be $4 by the end of 2018

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« Reply #1117 on: December 12, 2017, 03:40:26 PM »
could be 40k by the end of 2018
could be 4k by the end of 2018
could be $4 by the end of 2018

Yep. As I have said before (like gold) it cannot be valued. The only real gauge in terms of prediction is what amount of funds you believe will flow into (or out of) BTC over a specific time period. If I had to guess I would think more will flow into BTC in 2018 - potentially a lot more.

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« Reply #1118 on: December 12, 2017, 03:55:22 PM »
Yep. As I have said before (like gold) it cannot be valued. The only real gauge in terms of prediction is what amount of funds you believe will flow into (or out of) BTC over a specific time period. If I had to guess I would think more will flow into BTC in 2018 - potentially a lot more.

Not true. Gold has history behind it and it’s value.  Bitcoin can vanish quickly. North Korea is currently hacking every exchange out there and have already stolen billions.  Make sure you duplicate your wallet on something like a private AWS S3 bucket. Then duplicate that in different regions.

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« Reply #1119 on: December 12, 2017, 04:00:06 PM »
If the major banks will be using Ethereum, where would that leave Bitcoin?

To preface the below, I think the immediate risk to bitcoin right now is money flooded in during October and November which tripled it’s value. That is a 2 month trend which people are now using to work it into trillions…… it’s possible of course but it’s similar to scoring the first 2 points in a basketball game then claiming you will score another 100 in that game.


Right now, I do believe bitcoin is a competitor to gold. On that basis I can now accept an argument that any crypto is a competitor to any commodity exchange because they all share a likeness which is they are essentially nothing.

If you have traded commodities and contracts you most likely traded things that don’t exist. Therefore just like trading metals, shares, wheat, corn, you can trade cryptos.


I think what we are seeing now is the sparks trying to create a new Dow Jones market but on a global scale. The Crypto market filled with hundreds and thousands of cryptos constantly being traded just like shares.  Why not? If I buy shares today it’s not because I want a dividend or because I want to buy the company, it’s because I am speculating I will sell it for more money.

Today if we say there is $300B in crypto currency and then $3T comes in (which is very low in terms of resources) then it most likely would be a tidal wave lifting everything already in play.


For anything of note to happen we need the major banks to be on board because they control everything. This is why the Ethereum alliance is a milestone moment. This is why Eth is tipped to outstrip bitcoin by the end of next year.  So either bitcoin loses and it goes to Eth or bitcoin holds/grows and MORE capital flows in to float up ETH. If that event happens then I’d say that is a sign we will have a new global market in cryptos that will rival commodities and shares.

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« Reply #1120 on: December 12, 2017, 04:01:59 PM »
Not true. Gold has history behind it and it’s value.  Bitcoin can vanish quickly. North Korea is currently hacking every exchange out there and have already stolen billions.  Make sure you duplicate your wallet on something like a private AWS S3 bucket. Then duplicate that in different regions.

Both gold and bitcoin have “history behind it”. Gold’s history is longer.  That does not mean though that gold can be valued. Let me ask you, how do you value gold? What makes it “cheap” or “expensive”?

Yes exchanges are vulnerable to be hacked. Cold Storage is the way to go.

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« Reply #1121 on: December 12, 2017, 04:03:18 PM »
Not true. Gold has history behind it and it’s value.

Nobody cares.

I played the silver market when it had it's run and made great money from it. At the time i was a believer in the history of it, the money it was, the currency it was...... then i saw how manipulated and fucked up it was and that the rules changed so it no longer physically existed.

Nobody cares about the history of gold/silver and i won't be surprised to see it get demolished in favour of a global crypto market.

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« Reply #1122 on: December 12, 2017, 04:43:46 PM »
Nobody cares.

I played the silver market when it had it's run and made great money from it. At the time i was a believer in the history of it, the money it was, the currency it was...... then i saw how manipulated and fucked up it was and that the rules changed so it no longer physically existed.

Nobody cares about the history of gold/silver and i won't be surprised to see it get demolished in favour of a global crypto market.

I initially thought bitcoin would cannibalize gold and start to slowly take over the role gold historically had. It’s still possible. But what I think is actually more likely is that some of the drivers and dynamics behind BTC may actually result in a resurgence of interest in gold. So overall, I actually think that gold has upside potential over the next few years...

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« Reply #1123 on: December 12, 2017, 04:45:41 PM »
Cheap huh? How can you value something that produces no yield?

No yield/dividends, but as I have said here MANY times (but you don't want to acknowledge) that gold and silver are a storage of wealth, labor and value.  I already hold stocks and bonds that pay dividends.  

Yes, gold and silver (especially) are VERY undervalued.  These metals are the very best conductors of electricity.  They are essential for the technology in that thing you're typing on and talking into.  Bitcoins would not exist with gold and silver, yet you bash them all the time.  Pretty funny.

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« Reply #1124 on: December 12, 2017, 05:33:23 PM »
No yield/dividends, but as I have said here MANY times (but you don't want to acknowledge) that gold and silver are a storage of wealth, labor and value.  I already hold stocks and bonds that pay dividends.  

Yes, gold and silver (especially) are VERY undervalued.  These metals are the very best conductors of electricity.  They are essential for the technology in that thing you're typing on and talking into.  Bitcoins would not exist with gold and silver, yet you bash them all the time.  Pretty funny.

I do acknowledge gold and silver are used as stores of value. In my view though, that does not in itself mean they have any caculatable value above and beyond any legitimate reason industrial applications.

Don’t get me wrong. I love the feeling of holding gold. I’ve just always been uncomfortable investing in an unproductive asset which I cannot calculate any inherent value for. (Which was and is also my biggest discomfort with bitcoin).