Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!

[el numero uno]

So much hate for something you don't even like, pretty strange. All the name calling, gimmick accusations, etc... Only explanation I have is some of you are simply angry that you did not use the window of opportunity and seeing it "fail" would make you feel better somehow. When it really does offer plenty of good stuff (the crypto) but you choose to see only the negatives, to skip at least some valid points made my me and others, it's the same as being blinded by "price rise", just vice versa. One thing I can guarantee (evaluating from my personal perspective, as in dealing with this stuff almost daily) - you will have to learn how it works and you will use it, sooner or later. As Gib wrote a few times already - at least try doing it to feel the VALUE, I am not going to repeat myself again and again (and repeat Gib) but being cautious and being simply ignorant are to different sides of the (bit)coin.

It's pretty obvious you're gib's gimmick.

FAIL

[DooM_]

So much hate for something you don't even like, pretty strange. All the name calling, gimmick accusations, etc... Only explanation I have is some of you are simply angry that you did not use the window of opportunity and seeing it "fail" would make you feel better somehow. When it really does offer plenty of good stuff (the crypto) but you choose to see only the negatives, to skip at least some valid points made my me and others, it's the same as being blinded by "price rise", just vice versa. One thing I can guarantee (evaluating from my personal perspective, as in dealing with this stuff almost daily) - you will have to learn how it works and you will use it, sooner or later. As Gib wrote a few times already - at least try doing it to feel the VALUE, I am not going to repeat myself again and again (and repeat Gib) but being cautious and being simply ignorant are to different sides of the (bit)coin.

hi gib

[Mayday]

I maintain that its good for many reasons to own some BTC at any price

I still think its quite possible we will see 40K year end - 100K in 3 years and - yes 1m is of course theoretically possible (though I would not try to put a time estimate on this)

The problem with prefacing things with the word 'possible' is that it then makes it a meaningless statement where if in the end the 'possible' outcome never eventuates the owner claims 'i never said it WOULD happen'. You might aswell stick with your 'bitcoin possibly to 1M' because it's equally as pointless as 'possibly 40k', 'possibly 100k'.

It's possible the price of oil will be up 20% by the end of the year.
It's possible the USD will crash 10% before June.

Both of those things i leave myself an escape route if i am wrong because i have NFI if i am right or wrong. It's just a guess.


I'll give you credit that at least you put skin in the game a while back in investing in bitcoin. It's more than most people did. But as said before, the entire basis on why you invested in bitcoin to begin with has not taken place. It was just hype which you acknowledged in the end a few pages ago.

One of the very BIG things yourself and the bitcoin ilk were adamant about was that it couldn't be banned or restricted because it was decentralised....... the opposite side argued TPTB will do whatever they want in order to have control of the end game whether it's banning, restricting, regulating, crashing the market etc.


Korea just banned them and the result was bitcoin crashed 45% and the other altcoins got smacked down much harder.

Remember the 'lessons learned' i mentioned to you?

Your and other's lesson here is that yes they can be banned. Yes they can be manipulated by TPTB. Yes it is bloody quick and it's bloody brutal.  

Now, head back to step 1 where you start with your rationale for why you invested and encourage others to invest in bitcoin. Ask yourself, whether that lesson learned have any impact your argument of bitcoin becoming a claimed 'global currency' and 'digital gold' ?

[Zero2Hero]

You guys really start to sound like a bunch of kids throwing a doodie at each other. Maybe not most, but many, obviously doesn't even know what it is and this kind of hate towards a "thing" that actually may HELP you resembles dark ages, when people would throw rocks at a steam powered trains, screaming it's a "machine from hell". I personally DO NOT care about the price, as long as it is stable, be it a thousand or five hundred so I am not biased regarding it, I may be biased regarding it's usability, but so far it has been great.

[gib]

You guys really start to sound like a bunch of kids throwing a doodie at each other. Maybe not most, but many, obviously doesn't even know what it is and this kind of hate towards a "thing" that actually may HELP you resembles dark ages, when people would throw rocks at a steam powered trains, screaming it's a "machine from hell". I personally DO NOT care about the price, as long as it is stable, be it a thousand or five hundred so I am not biased regarding it, I may be biased regarding it's usability, but so far it has been great.

Agree 100%! - well its Getbig though afterall - but what amazes me is how some of the more financially savvy folks like Mr A really don't "get it" - and the rocks at powered trains is a perfect example!

[Mr Anabolic]

Agree 100%! - well its Getbig though afterall - but what amazes me is how some of the more financially savvy folks like Mr A really don't "get it" - and the rocks at powered trains is a perfect example!

Having a discussion with your own gimmick =  mental illness.

Yes, I definitely "get it".

[gib]

Lol - arguing with a suspected gimmick of a suspected troll who has made profits which you suspect are not real on a topic which you have been objectively proven wrong about a currency which you think is fictional  = mental illness of peace - another ultimate self-owning right there Mr A

[SF1900]

To be honest, I don't see the issue with GIB. Even if some of his claims are outlandish, the fact that he made money, is a good thing.

Why knock someone for investing and making some cash?

He's not spending it on drugs and gambling and alcohol.

Whether or not someone disagrees with GIB, clearly he is doing something right.

I do agree that some of his other claims are hard to believe without evidence (hes worth millions and makes 500K a year). But it seems totally plausible that he made cash with bitcoin.

All-in-all, there is always a chance that GIB is a GIMMICK!! This is getbig after all. But, damn, props for pulling off a 70 page gimmick! Wouln't that be a getbig record? lol

[Dave D]

To be honest, I don't see the issue with GIB. Even if some of his claims are outlandish, the fact that he made money, is a good thing.

Why knock someone for investing and making some cash?

He's not spending it on drugs and gambling and alcohol.

Whether or not someone disagrees with GIB, clearly he is doing something right.

I do agree that some of his other claims are hard to believe without evidence (hes worth millions and makes 500K a year). But it seems totally plausible that he made cash with bitcoin.

All-in-all, there is always a chance that GIB is a GIMMICK!! This is getbig after all. But, damn, props for pulling off a 70 page gimmick! Wouln't that be a getbig record? lol

I don't think the issue is Gib made money, it's more that he made HUGE claims and then told us we were foolish for not buying bitcoins while he was selling off his investment.

Even when the price was at its peak he encouraged buying it yet he sold before they collapsed. It is disingenuous.

[SF1900]

I don't think the issue is Gib made money, it's more that he made HUGE claims and then told us we were foolish for not buying bitcoins while he was selling off his investment.

Even when the price was at its peak he encouraged buying it yet he sold before they collapsed. It is disingenuous.

Oh well, people make mistakes. He made a mistake.

But, of course, everyone on getbig is perfect and their claims are always 100% accurate. 

[Dave D]

Hope all u guys got some. Soon will be able to retire and just chill and train when they get to 100k per coin.

First post.

Oh well, people make mistakes. He made a mistake.

But, of course, everyone on getbig is perfect and their claims are always 100% accurate. 

He sold way before that. 

[Zero2Hero]

Agree 100%! - well its Getbig though afterall - but what amazes me is how some of the more financially savvy folks like Mr A really don't "get it" - and the rocks at powered trains is a perfect example!

Now just imagine how fukkin stupid they would feel if we think of some way to prove we are two different persons. I guess the silence would be similar to that one when btc will start rising again.

And yes, what amazes me is the fact these people blindly hate on something that is potentially of BENEFIT to their own life. Pure old school thinking in action and difficulties to adjust thought patterns (I guess that's when a person start to get old, as in mind).

[Dave D]

Now just imagine how fukkin stupid they would feel if we think of some way to prove we are two different persons. I guess the silence would be similar to that one when btc will start rising again.

And yes, what amazes me is the fact these people blindly hate on something that is potentially of BENEFIT to their own life. Pure old school thinking in action and difficulties to adjust thought patterns (I guess that's when a person start to get old, as in mind).

Post a picture of you two together. No one Will feel dumb, just like Gib doesn't feel bad for selling.

[Mr Anabolic]

Lol - arguing with a suspected gimmick of a suspected troll who has made profits which you suspect are not real on a topic which you have been objectively proven wrong about a currency which you think is fictional  = mental illness of peace - another ultimate self-owning right there Mr A

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BLIPS TO 1 MILLION!   Sports cars for everyone!

[Mr Anabolic]

Now just imagine how fukkin stupid they would feel if we think of some way to prove we are two different persons. I guess the silence would be similar to that one when btc will start rising again.

And yes, what amazes me is the fact these people blindly hate on something that is potentially of BENEFIT to their own life. Pure old school thinking in action and difficulties to adjust thought patterns (I guess that's when a person start to get old, as in mind).

lol 

This guy really is nuts

[gib]

Now just imagine how fukkin stupid they would feel if we think of some way to prove we are two different persons. I guess the silence would be similar to that one when btc will start rising again.

And yes, what amazes me is the fact these people blindly hate on something that is potentially of BENEFIT to their own life. Pure old school thinking in action and difficulties to adjust thought patterns (I guess that's when a person start to get old, as in mind).

Agree entirely!

[Zero2Hero]

We really need an idea, now I really want to make some fun of these guys for ignoring valid points that I (think) I presented here (for a constructive discussion) and this childish finger pointing/derailing decent thoughts on the matter.
 If we come up with a way to prove we are TWO fukkin different individuals - some of you will feel pretty damn stupid (you will keep silent, actually)

[Zillotch]

We really need an idea, now I really want to make some fun of these guys for ignoring valid points that I (think) I presented here (for a constructive discussion) and this childish finger pointing/derailing decent thoughts on the matter.
 If we come up with a way to prove we are TWO fukkin different individuals - some of you will feel pretty damn stupid (you will keep silent, actually)

why would anyone give a fuk who u r, tard?

[gib]

The problem with prefacing things with the word 'possible' is that it then makes it a meaningless statement where if in the end the 'possible' outcome never eventuates the owner claims 'i never said it WOULD happen'. You might aswell stick with your 'bitcoin possibly to 1M' because it's equally as pointless as 'possibly 40k', 'possibly 100k'.

It's possible the price of oil will be up 20% by the end of the year.
It's possible the USD will crash 10% before June.

Both of those things i leave myself an escape route if i am wrong because i have NFI if i am right or wrong. It's just a guess.


I'll give you credit that at least you put skin in the game a while back in investing in bitcoin. It's more than most people did. But as said before, the entire basis on why you invested in bitcoin to begin with has not taken place. It was just hype which you acknowledged in the end a few pages ago.

One of the very BIG things yourself and the bitcoin ilk were adamant about was that it couldn't be banned or restricted because it was decentralised....... the opposite side argued TPTB will do whatever they want in order to have control of the end game whether it's banning, restricting, regulating, crashing the market etc.


Korea just banned them and the result was bitcoin crashed 45% and the other altcoins got smacked down much harder.

Remember the 'lessons learned' i mentioned to you?

Your and other's lesson here is that yes they can be banned. Yes they can be manipulated by TPTB. Yes it is bloody quick and it's bloody brutal.  

Now, head back to step 1 where you start with your rationale for why you invested and encourage others to invest in bitcoin. Ask yourself, whether that lesson learned have any impact your argument of bitcoin becoming a claimed 'global currency' and 'digital gold' ?

Just a quick reply as I missed this. Korea has not banned bitcoins (nor has China). I think you are confusing the possible regulation of bitcoin trading exchanges with the "banning" of the use of bitcoin as a currency - 2 very different concepts. (Its not just you who has had this misunderstanding by the way).

So actually there are 2 lessons here for you. First, is to actually understand what is happening, and not blindly believe what you read in mainstream press.

And secondly to understand that bitcoin (which is really just a pure function of a mathematical algorithm) cannot be stopped.

[JAGO]

Excellent post.

J

[Zillotch]

understand what is happening

And secondly to understand that blockchain cannot be stopped.

at the first part, agree with the second.. I hate to say it, but the tech looks unstoppable at this point.

if someone wanted to obliterate blockchain... how could it be done?

[Mayday]

Just a  not blindly believe what you read in mainstream press.

And secondly to understand that bitcoin (which is really just a pure function of a mathematical algorithm) cannot be stopped.

So you dont believe the Korean govt is trying to reign it in or regulate it?  What about the anonymity that made it famous? Do you not think that is important anymore and people are happy to go legit and pay taxes?


You say things like it cant be stopped but you already sold out.  How can one be so strong minded but their actions show the opposite?  

[gib]

So you dont believe the Korean govt is trying to reign it in or regulate it?  What about the anonymity that made it famous? Do you not think that is important anymore and people are happy to go legit and pay taxes?


You say things like it cant be stopped but you already sold out.  How can one be so strong minded but their actions show the opposite?  

Answers below:

1. The Korean Government is trying to regulate exchanges for sure (just like stock exchanges are regulated). As for regulating crypto itself, most countries already have regulations and law, which govern contracts, which is essentially all crypto really is. But bear in mind also, that every country is aware that regulation could also stifle innovation. So Korea has a real dilemma - does it allow crypto the crypto ecosystem to thrive and become a world leader, or does it risk innovation moving elsewhere.

2. The anonymity that made BTC famous of course continues to exist. Just like gold, or cash for that matter, if you exchange direct, anonymity can be preserved - indeed is even more so with bitcoin as you don't need to meet directly - the exchange is done in cyberspace. But if you trade via an exchange that follows KYC regulations (eg like the US regulated crypto exchanges) then yes, just like stock or gold traded over an exchange, there are records kept of buyer and sellers identities.

3. "You say things like it cant be stopped but you already sold out.  How can one be so strong minded but their actions show the opposite?" - Simply because something cannot be stopped does not make it inherently of good value. I took the view that prices had risen so fast, that it was a good time to lock in a gain. So basically as a new currency, we will have a continued upward cycle, but with very significant periods of volatility on the way up - so sell after big spikes, and buy on big dips.

[SOMEPARTS]

We really need an idea, now I really want to make some fun of these guys for ignoring valid points that I (think) I presented here (for a constructive discussion) and this childish finger pointing/derailing decent thoughts on the matter.
 If we come up with a way to prove we are TWO fukkin different individuals - some of you will feel pretty damn stupid (you will keep silent, actually)

Yes, come up with "a way". It seems so impossible to post that wallet or a pic.


Until then - and we will be waiting a long time let's all face it....does this count as two meltdowns or one? I'm not sure what etiquette is on this one. I've never seen multiple personality disorder before.

[SOMEPARTS]

Post a picture of you two together. No one Will feel dumb, just like Gib doesn't feel bad for selling.