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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2375 on: August 22, 2018, 05:12:50 AM »
bitcoin went from 20.000 to 6.900. Great store of value!  :D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2376 on: August 22, 2018, 05:27:18 AM »
bitcoin went from 20.000 to 6.900. Great store of value!  :D

It's massive fluctuations in value also make it basically impossible for businesses to use.

Relative price stability is important for a currency and store of value.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2377 on: August 22, 2018, 07:11:55 AM »
It's massive fluctuations in value also make it basically impossible for businesses to use.

Relative price stability is important for a currency and store of value.
ANY new currency is going to see massive fluctuations.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2378 on: August 22, 2018, 07:29:53 AM »
It's massive fluctuations in value also make it basically impossible for businesses to use.

Relative price stability is important for a currency and store of value.

What is going to stabilize the price?  Coming under gov't regulations?  Right now it appears to be the Wild Wild West of currency. 


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2379 on: August 22, 2018, 08:15:45 AM »
ANY new currency is going to see massive fluctuations.


Nonsense. When a backed currency is established that is the point it is most stable. All fiat/currency that is not REAL MONEY based (aka gold/silver) devalues from that point on. Just because this is digital doesn't mean it won't be diluted...just happens even faster in this case. You can tout 21 million made, muh code, etc. but as soon as it is worth 20k again the same haircuts will go out for the fools that are small investors.

The only thing that stabilizes crypto is ending paper money and govt forcing people to use it in a permanent wallet tied to their SS#. In others words total control.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2380 on: August 22, 2018, 08:45:31 AM »
ANY new currency is going to see massive fluctuations.

Not by several hundred percent!


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« Reply #2381 on: August 22, 2018, 01:47:59 PM »

Nonsense. When a backed currency is established that is the point it is most stable. All fiat/currency that is not REAL MONEY based (aka gold/silver) devalues from that point on. Just because this is digital doesn't mean it won't be diluted...just happens even faster in this case. You can tout 21 million made, muh code, etc. but as soon as it is worth 20k again the same haircuts will go out for the fools that are small investors.

The only thing that stabilizes crypto is ending paper money and govt forcing people to use it in a permanent wallet tied to their SS#. In others words total control.


You know usd has not been backed by gold in about 50 years right?
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2382 on: August 22, 2018, 02:05:54 PM »
You know usd has not been backed by gold in about 50 years right?


Uh, yeah..duh..and what are you saying exactly? If your argument is that crypto is better store of value than the dollar due to inflation....well that's a poor argument as well. The dollar decline is predictable and can be offset by tax benefits, real estate appreciation and rent increases, equity investing, etc. The dollar was still losing value when it was a silver certificate, and when it became true fiat currency under Nixon that guaranteed it will eventually go to zero as all have in the past...so I'm not a dollar fan but I understand the fiat/debt system and I understand human nature.

Bitcoin went from 20k to 6k....you can't base anything on that system but raping small investors who think they are in on some new game ahead of the suckers. It's just another easy money scam for a few that got in early or already had deep pockets. It's the same human drivers as the current money system - greed, capital controls, taxation, fear, etc. It is not an untraceable, decentralized, honest, deflationary system that was promised. They hit the exchanges and forced compliance to turn over all account holder info, slapped a futures market on it to control it and taxed all gains and that's it....the golden age is already over.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2384 on: August 22, 2018, 03:14:38 PM »
Bernanke said all the way back in the GFC that their plan was to get the Dow to 30k. The US Govt loaded their eyeballs to fund the 4T they pumped in, they arent about to stop.

Id be confident they can rig the treasury market also and prevent a meltdown on that side.

I would be more surprised if we do not see the Dow reach 30k before a recession.

There just seems to be this continuing optimism for the US economy almost at the expense of

Or separate from large parts of the rest of the world which are clearly stalling at the moment.

Things are going very solid with the economy even at this advanced date of the bull run but it doesn't have the same kind of 2008 feel where there was in your face consumer irresponsibility (not saying there are not anecdotal examples of this but I just am not noticing it to near the degree)

I think as technology spreads and people become more disillusioned with their governments or nation's economic prospects(East Africa, South America etc), currencies like Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash and Monero could very well reap the benefits of that currency flowing in.

Is it a home run ? No, not by any stretch. Is it a potential hedge? Yeah, definitely.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2385 on: August 22, 2018, 09:07:19 PM »
ripple XRP is .30 cents now

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2386 on: August 23, 2018, 05:19:52 AM »
I would be more surprised if we do not see the Dow reach 30k before a recession.

There just seems to be this continuing optimism for the US economy almost at the expense of

Or separate from large parts of the rest of the world which are clearly stalling at the moment.

Things are going very solid with the economy even at this advanced date of the bull run but it doesn't have the same kind of 2008 feel where there was in your face consumer irresponsibility (not saying there are not anecdotal examples of this but I just am not noticing it to near the degree)

I think as technology spreads and people become more disillusioned with their governments or nation's economic prospects(East Africa, South America etc), currencies like Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash and Monero could very well reap the benefits of that currency flowing in.

Is it a home run ? No, not by any stretch. Is it a potential hedge? Yeah, definitely.

I agree with that, but it just needs some reasonable price stability, more similar to a hard currency.

At the moment, they're used mostly for speculation, most just buying with the intention to make a quick profit instead of as a store of wealth.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2387 on: September 08, 2018, 06:05:21 AM »
Bitcoin taking a knock again.

A pity, if it were more stable it would have been a great hedge against currency depreciation risks, especially in 'developing' countries.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2388 on: September 08, 2018, 09:17:15 AM »
Bitcoin taking a knock again.

A pity, if it were more stable it would have been a great hedge against currency depreciation risks, especially in 'developing' countries.

What is it down to now?  Any reason?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2389 on: September 08, 2018, 09:17:50 AM »
ripple XRP is .30 cents now

Is this good or bad?  I have never heard of this one before.  What was it at it's highest?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2390 on: September 08, 2018, 09:27:55 AM »
Is this good or bad?  I have never heard of this one before.  What was it at it's highest?

Ripple hit a high of around 4.00.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2391 on: September 08, 2018, 09:55:05 AM »
Got an email from Coinbase that they are automatically upping my account limit(and I assume everybody else that has an account) to trade 25k per day. They are desperate for those fees as the bottom is falling out.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2392 on: September 08, 2018, 10:50:51 AM »
Ripple hit a high of around 4.00.

exactly - from about last year it was .25 and hit $4.000 back to under 30 cents

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2393 on: September 09, 2018, 08:48:14 PM »
Just curious, anyone else get on the Netflix train

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2394 on: September 10, 2018, 12:06:44 PM »
Got an email from Coinbase that they are automatically upping my account limit(and I assume everybody else that has an account) to trade 25k per day. They are desperate for those fees as the bottom is falling out.

Coinbase has recently double Their staff from 250-500,they know what’s coming.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2395 on: September 10, 2018, 12:07:45 PM »
exactly - from about last year it was .25 and hit $4.000 back to under 30 cents

Will be higher than 4.00 soon enough.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2396 on: September 10, 2018, 01:05:55 PM »
Will be higher than 4.00 soon enough.



How soon?   ???

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2397 on: September 10, 2018, 01:51:58 PM »
How soon?   ???

I’d say by end of December or latest quarter 2 of 2019.Ripple xrp will be taking Swift’s business.

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« Reply #2398 on: September 10, 2018, 09:01:34 PM »
Im not an expert but ripple is now evened out with strong supply and resistance levels and traders are on both sides of it.

last year it was all long orders....

seems to be a channel and i dont see it going up 10000% type of moves...

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2399 on: September 11, 2018, 06:13:43 AM »
Im not an expert but ripple is now evened out with strong supply and resistance levels and traders are on both sides of it.

last year it was all long orders....

seems to be a channel and i dont see it going up 10000% type of moves...

Want to make some money invest a bit in Digibyte and just sit back.its at .022 right now with a high of .129.Im betting it will be 1.00 in 2019.