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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2725 on: May 13, 2019, 06:21:19 PM »
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2726 on: May 13, 2019, 06:31:30 PM »
Gib how are you owning Mr.A? You sold all you coins before they reached 100k maturity and then only bought 2 at $5100.

The profit you can make off of the 2 is nice right now but for a man of your means incant imagine you worry about spending $4k on a weekend vacation.

You're acting weird.

First 2 paragraphs are correct.

3rd paragraph is a matter of opinion. To some people I may seem weird. To others I seem entirely rational.  Sometimes is the majority whom are “weird”. They just don’t know it yet.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2727 on: May 13, 2019, 06:32:31 PM »
oh btw, just did 5 reps of bicep curls...

How much money did you make doing that?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2728 on: May 13, 2019, 06:40:58 PM »
First 2 paragraphs are correct.

3rd paragraph is a matter of opinion. To some people I may seem weird. To others I seem entirely rational.  Sometimes is the majority whom are “weird”. They just don’t know it yet.

So you think its normal behavior for someone with above average wealth to brag about a potential $4000 windfall?

Ok

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« Reply #2729 on: May 13, 2019, 06:51:24 PM »
So you think its normal behavior for someone with above average wealth to brag about a potential $4000 windfall?

Ok

Not bragging. Just stating a fact.

Whether it’s a windfall or not is subjective, although arguably if the “investment” is a pure gamble (which it arguably is) then yes gain would indeed be correctly characterised as a windfall.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2730 on: May 13, 2019, 06:56:40 PM »
Oh. And @ $7700. Which makes the gain a tad over 5k I believe.

Meanwhile you would not believe, probably, how much I am down today in US equities and now at the opening of Asian markets ...



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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2732 on: May 13, 2019, 07:46:21 PM »
http://fortune.com/2019/05/13/bitcoin-comes-to-whole-foods-major-retailers-in-coup-for-digital-currency/

So what does this mean?

Bitcoin is obviously too volatile to be used as currency. I could buy $550 of groceries with 1/20 of a bitcoin today and tomorrow it will have cost me an extra $500.
 
Why not just pay with stocks or gold? This isnt a benefit to the consumer unless the losing money is the desired result.

Or am I missing something with this?

Also now bitcoin will be tracked be the government because retailers will record the purchases.

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« Reply #2733 on: May 13, 2019, 10:30:10 PM »
Oh and $207 (Ethereum)
Oh and $0.38 (Ripple)

Fuck Bitcoin I want the Alts to go to the moon.

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« Reply #2734 on: May 13, 2019, 10:32:35 PM »
So what does this mean?

Bitcoin is obviously too volatile to be used as currency. I could buy $550 of groceries with 1/20 of a bitcoin today and tomorrow it will have cost me an extra $500.
 
Why not just pay with stocks or gold? This isnt a benefit to the consumer unless the losing money is the desired result.

Or am I missing something with this?

Also now bitcoin will be tracked be the government because retailers will record the purchases.
Why do you care if the government knows you bought groceries from Whole Foods? You would be doing nothing illegal. If I send you Bitcoin they won't know who sent and who received unless you made your address public. You can have numerous wallets for Bitcoin, Ethereum etc. as well.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2735 on: May 14, 2019, 12:19:18 AM »
So when people talk about other alt coins and such being "coupled" to bitcoin, that pretty much means depending on bitcoin for either rising and falling?  If they are decoupled, then it would seem a greater risk of falling since they don't have the bitcoin safety net under them???   Or do you think being tied to bitcoin is holding them down?

People use the term to describe a range of things. But it’s most commonly used to describe BTC not moving in sync with other crypto. If btc rises and others decline, this is a very good thing for btc as it confirms btc is established market acceptance and dominance as the leading and key coin for store of value.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2736 on: May 14, 2019, 12:54:51 AM »
People use the term to describe a range of things. But it’s most commonly used to describe BTC not moving in sync with other crypto. If btc rises and others decline, this is a very good thing for btc as it confirms btc is established market acceptance and dominance as the leading and key coin for store of value.

u reckon btc heading to 20k again?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2737 on: May 14, 2019, 01:11:58 AM »
oh btw
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2738 on: May 14, 2019, 01:45:12 AM »
u reckon btc heading to 20k again?

Let me first say, as I have said all along, that something that produces no yield cannot be valued. Yield is the fundamental driver that investors like myself and Buffet look at when valuing an asset (then of course adding in many other factors such as reliability of yield, longevity of yield, yield compared to interest rates etc), and which is why value investors like myself consider crypto and (gold also) to be inherent bubbles. Their value is simply a factor of what others are prepared to pay for them, vs yield producing assets where value can be fundamentally calculated.

So, that in turn means, that BTC (and gold) could fall to virtually zero value. They could also hit astronomical values.

Do I think BTC will surpass 20K again? Yes, I think so, based on the societal trend I am seeing. Would not surprise me if we get to 10K soon which in turn is a milestone that will spur further publicity as mainstream buyers enter.

I think every person, if possible should own at 1 BTC. (There will only ever be 21,000,000 coins mined, and probably 1/3 are already "lost". So lets say 14,000,000 coins that can actually be accessed vs 36,000,000 millionaires in the world, meaning other is only enough supply for .5 of a coin per millionaire. Now bear in mind that many millionaires own more than a coin, and indeed, many non-millionaires do too. Let alone Governments and funds, and you can get the idea of where pricing "could" go in the future. I would not recommend by any means putting all your eggs in one basket. As I have said before, I only have a minute % of total wealth in BTC (and gold for that matter).

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2739 on: May 14, 2019, 02:36:06 AM »
the more bitcoins go up in value the bigger reminder of how much money you COULDVE made if you only wouldve put your money where your mouth is.

what a loser.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2740 on: May 14, 2019, 02:36:47 AM »
oh btw, thundery showers and a moderate breeze.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2741 on: May 14, 2019, 02:42:21 AM »
Look at the dates, 1st guy is clearly an insider




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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2742 on: May 14, 2019, 03:06:40 AM »
the more bitcoins go up in value the bigger reminder of how much money you COULDVE made if you only wouldve put your money where your mouth is.

what a loser.

Not really, as I make a balanced approach to allocation of assets based on perceived risk vs reward, and invest accordingly. Which has led to a very nice long term gains over many years. So actually, (and mathematically) a winner as opposed to a loser.

Losers are those who take bets on things they don't fully understand, where odds are against them, thinking (or hoping) they will win.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2743 on: May 14, 2019, 06:00:20 AM »
Not really, as I make a balanced approach to allocation of assets based on perceived risk vs reward, and invest accordingly. Which has led to a very nice long term gains over many years. So actually, (and mathematically) a winner as opposed to a loser.

Losers are those who take bets on things they don't fully understand, where odds are against them, thinking (or hoping) they will win.


bullshit. if you really believed in bitcoins the way you been preaching about it for 110 pages you would invest in it big time.

and since you haven't you either does not really, deep down, believe in it or you just lack the money to invest.

this would explain why you wouldnt kick yourself for losing money - you didn't have any money to invest in the first place.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2744 on: May 14, 2019, 06:05:36 AM »
btw Humidity 69%

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2745 on: May 14, 2019, 06:44:07 AM »
Why do you care if the government knows you bought groceries from Whole Foods? You would be doing nothing illegal. If I send you Bitcoin they won't know who sent and who received unless you made your address public. You can have numerous wallets for Bitcoin, Ethereum etc. as well.

One of the benefits Gib is promoting is that the income earned from flipping bitcoin is that it's not taxable because its untraceable.

If stores, especially one owned by Amazon, accept it as tender it will be traceable. So one of the primary benefits is not a benefit at all.

If you think otherwise you haven't paid attention to history.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2746 on: May 14, 2019, 07:37:47 AM »
Depends on where u store the cash when you sell btc.

If you want to avoid tax on the capital gain you can keep it as btc and not ever realise the gain. Exchange it for cash that you keep yourself (as opposed to in a bank). Use overseas. But a good or a service from a private individual. Lots of ways.

The primary investor of the recently defunct  AAF, Reggie Fowler, was recently arrested for bank fraud because of cryptos.

The original main investor in the Alliance of American Football, Reggie Fowler, was arrested Tuesday and charged by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York, the FBI and the IRS with committing bank fraud and operating an unlicensed money transmitting business.

The government entities allege that Fowler, and his partner Ravid Yosef, between February and October of 2018, moved hundreds of millions of dollars through banks for a cryptocurrency business under the guise of what they said were real estate holdings. If convicted, Fowler, 60, could face a maximum of 70 years in prison

It seems cashing out,  even wth over seas banks,  is now a problem.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2747 on: May 14, 2019, 06:55:07 PM »
Oh and $207 (Ethereum)
Oh and $0.38 (Ripple)

Fuck Bitcoin I want the Alts to go to the moon.
Oh and $218 (Ethereum)
Oh and $0.42 (Ripple)

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2748 on: May 14, 2019, 07:19:41 PM »
When the f%ck is XRP going to show a sign of life!!!!????

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2749 on: May 15, 2019, 03:50:25 AM »
Ethereum showing signs of life!

Oh and $232.82 (Ethereum)
Oh and $0.4280 (Ripple)