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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4275 on: January 18, 2021, 11:14:07 PM »
Eth, is close.

Some big moves last night. Staying strong, throughout the recent btc ups and downs. Could it break a high today?


Flipped: Ethereum now processes 28% more transactions than Bitcoin

https://cointelegraph.com/news/flipped-ethereum-now-processes-28-more-transactions-than-bitcoin

Ethereum price inches closer to a new all-time high as Bitcoin consolidates

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-price-inches-closer-to-a-new-all-time-high-as-bitcoin-consolidates

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4276 on: January 19, 2021, 01:44:10 AM »
Some big moves last night. Staying strong, throughout the recent btc ups and downs. Could it break a high today?


Flipped: Ethereum now processes 28% more transactions than Bitcoin

https://cointelegraph.com/news/flipped-ethereum-now-processes-28-more-transactions-than-bitcoin

Ethereum price inches closer to a new all-time high as Bitcoin consolidates

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-price-inches-closer-to-a-new-all-time-high-as-bitcoin-consolidates

It’s something that requires a wait calculation.

The ratio of ETH to BTC will increase largely in the short term.

Wait for a pullback in price meanwhile the ratio increases pulling the price upwards so by the time you have the pullback the price ends up at the same level you started waiting at......


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4277 on: January 19, 2021, 02:41:44 AM »
Ethereum very close to ATH. Some think it could double in short order after surpassing the ATH.

https://bitcoinist.com/ethereum-hits-three-year-high-as-bitcoin-volatility-dims-record-highs-ahead/

Ivan on Tech reckons ETH could go to 50k. Here he breaks it down.



BitBoy Crypto thinks Ethereum will hit 27k by October 2021.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4278 on: January 19, 2021, 02:47:08 AM »
When we get to 100k you will no longer be the richest person in this neck of the woods....:)
It would suck if one Bitcoin hits $1 million right when minimum wage is bumped up to $100,000 per hour. Then you could buy a Bitcoin after 10 hours work slumming it at McDonalds! A 2020 $24,000 car now costs $160 million. So you can buy it with 160 Bitcoin! LMAO!

Actually if inflation gets that bad perhaps 1 BTC will go to $100 million or more.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4279 on: January 19, 2021, 03:57:05 AM »
Started selling some eth this morning.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4280 on: January 19, 2021, 05:17:04 AM »


That's one of the places where we differ, because any time regulation comes into play, it adds additional layers of complexity and oversight, which then makes it harder to openly trade.

What catalyst can you envision?

I've been noticing that. Old money (Big money) isn't jumping at BTC and apparently neither are too many institutional traders.

By who, a better version of crypto or instead a government sponsored version of digital currency? I can't imagine any government, US or otherwise, not chomping at the bit to introduce digital currency for the purpose of continuing to grow their economy BUT most importantly, to have absolute oversight of ALL of its citizens.

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the use of the term "crypto" is one of the reasons why "crypto" is such a scammy shitshow. "crypto" is an invalid categorization which implies shitcoins belong in the same category as bitcoin. to noobs this false framing leads to a completely fucked up and weird understanding of the entire phenomenon. noobs tend to think about different types of "crypto" as if they were different sports teams that compete in a league or as different stocks of various companies that compete for performance. this is utter and complete bullshit.

bitcoin is a protocol for exchanging value like the internet is a protocol for exchanging information. referring to the examples above bitcoin is not a single soccer team that happens to be leading momentarily. while shitcoins may be viewed as soccer teams of various kinds, bitcoin is the entire league, even better, bitcoin is soccer in general. the whole game in its entirety, with the complete history, all teams in all leagues worldwide. why would you try to pick a single team that may or may not become a winner when you could have a share of all soccer in general? shitcoins could be viewed as stocks of various different companies. bitcoin would not represent a single stock. bitcoin is the entire stock market. why trying to pick a single stock that may or may not perform well in the future when you could buy a share of all stock markets globally?

only bitcoin is a fair protocol that is not owned by any individual, company, state or other entity. it is owned by its users. ALL OTHER projects in the crypto space are owned by their inventors (mostly companies whose sole reason to exist is to make profit.) no other project is truly decentralized - only bitcoin is. bitcoin and shitcoins aren´t even remotly comparable. putting them in the same category labeled "crypto" is misleading and hides the fact that all those projects are scams.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4281 on: January 19, 2021, 05:54:46 AM »
the use of the term "crypto" is one of the reasons why "crypto" is such a scammy shitshow. "crypto" is an invalid categorization which implies shitcoins belong in the same category as bitcoin. to noobs this false framing leads to a completely fucked up and weird understanding of the entire phenomenon. noobs tend to think about different types of "crypto" as if they were different sports teams that compete in a league or as different stocks of various companies that compete for performance. this is utter and complete bullshit.

bitcoin is a protocol for exchanging value like the internet is a protocol for exchanging information. referring to the examples above bitcoin is not a single soccer team that happens to be leading momentarily. while shitcoins may be viewed as soccer teams of various kinds, bitcoin is the entire league, even better, bitcoin is soccer in general. the whole game in its entirety, with the complete history, all teams in all leagues worldwide. why would you try to pick a single team that may or may not become a winner when you could have a share of all soccer in general? shitcoins could be viewed as stocks of various different companies. bitcoin would not represent a single stock. bitcoin is the entire stock market. why trying to pick a single stock that may or may not perform well in the future when you could buy a share of all stock markets globally?

only bitcoin is a fair protocol that is not owned by any individual, company, state or other entity. it is owned by its users. ALL OTHER projects in the crypto space are owned by their inventors (mostly companies whose sole reason to exist is to make profit.) no other project is truly decentralized - only bitcoin is. bitcoin and shitcoins aren´t even remotly comparable. putting them in the same category labeled "crypto" is misleading and hides the fact that all those projects are scams.

Ethereum is already the most used blockchain.

It's used by some of the biggest banks and all stablecoins, such as USDC, use Ethereum. All digital currencies pegged to a hard currency are using the system, processing all of those exchanges.

As mentioned above it's already processing 28% more transactions than Bitcoin.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4282 on: January 19, 2021, 06:02:23 AM »

'Pay attention' — Grayscale adds 18x the Bitcoin mined supply in one day


Bitcoin worth $600 million gets taken off the market as BTC/USD struggles to cement support for a retest of $40,000.

Asset manager Grayscale added 18 times more Bitcoin (BTC) than miners added to the supply in just one day on Jan. 18.

As various data sources confirm, Grayscale, which remains the biggest institutional buyer in the Bitcoin space, purchased a total of 16,244 BTC ($607 million) on Monday.


The giant sums are some of the biggest on record and are an order of magnitude above what even Grayscale was attempting just last week. The company previously saw daily buys but stopped over the holiday period and reduced its allocations in the first week of the new year.

Monday’s activities bring its total assets under management (AUM) to almost $23 billion. As Cointelegraph reported, the total increased tenfold during 2020.

“Grayscale were buying $251 M of #Bitcoin on avg per week in Q4 2020,” Danny Scott, CEO of United Kingdom-based cryptocurrency exchange CoinCorner, tweeted.

    “Last week they did $700 M in 1 day... And today $590 M... Pay attention.”

The move underscores both Grayscale’s continued faith in Bitcoin as a long-term play and that of institutions choosing Bitcoin over any other form of macro asset.

Despite mixed messages from fellow asset manager Guggenheim, set to begin its BTC exposure this month, industry sources state that public announcements hide the true extent of institutional involvement.

“There is huge institutional demand and most of it is silent,” Gemini exchange co-founder Tyler Winklevoss said last week while berating gold bug Peter Schiff for claiming that players were actually not interested in Bitcoin.

Data from on-chain analytics resource CryptoQuant meanwhile reveals changes in Grayscale’s buying habits, with late 2020 seeing the largest short-term increase in BTC holdings for the year.

Earlier, analysts at JPMorgan argued that inflows into the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust would need to maintain $100 million per day in order for Bitcoin to have a chance at reclaiming $40,000 price levels.


 https://cointelegraph.com/news/pay-attention-grayscale-adds-18x-the-bitcoin-mined-supply-in-one-day

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4283 on: January 19, 2021, 06:12:40 AM »
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-finally-beats-its-2018-all-time-high-price-surpassing-1-428

Ether price finally beats its 2018 all-time high, surpassing $1,428

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4284 on: January 19, 2021, 06:45:59 AM »
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-finally-beats-its-2018-all-time-high-price-surpassing-1-428

Ether price finally beats its 2018 all-time high, surpassing $1,428


Some big moves last night. Staying strong, throughout the recent btc ups and downs. Could it break a high today?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4285 on: January 19, 2021, 06:48:48 AM »

'Pay attention' — Grayscale adds 18x the Bitcoin mined supply in one day


Bitcoin worth $600 million gets taken off the market as BTC/USD struggles to cement support for a retest of $40,000.

Asset manager Grayscale added 18 times more Bitcoin (BTC) than miners added to the supply in just one day on Jan. 18.

As various data sources confirm, Grayscale, which remains the biggest institutional buyer in the Bitcoin space, purchased a total of 16,244 BTC ($607 million) on Monday.


The giant sums are some of the biggest on record and are an order of magnitude above what even Grayscale was attempting just last week. The company previously saw daily buys but stopped over the holiday period and reduced its allocations in the first week of the new year.

Monday’s activities bring its total assets under management (AUM) to almost $23 billion. As Cointelegraph reported, the total increased tenfold during 2020.

“Grayscale were buying $251 M of #Bitcoin on avg per week in Q4 2020,” Danny Scott, CEO of United Kingdom-based cryptocurrency exchange CoinCorner, tweeted.

    “Last week they did $700 M in 1 day... And today $590 M... Pay attention.”

The move underscores both Grayscale’s continued faith in Bitcoin as a long-term play and that of institutions choosing Bitcoin over any other form of macro asset.

Despite mixed messages from fellow asset manager Guggenheim, set to begin its BTC exposure this month, industry sources state that public announcements hide the true extent of institutional involvement.

“There is huge institutional demand and most of it is silent,” Gemini exchange co-founder Tyler Winklevoss said last week while berating gold bug Peter Schiff for claiming that players were actually not interested in Bitcoin.

Data from on-chain analytics resource CryptoQuant meanwhile reveals changes in Grayscale’s buying habits, with late 2020 seeing the largest short-term increase in BTC holdings for the year.

Earlier, analysts at JPMorgan argued that inflows into the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust would need to maintain $100 million per day in order for Bitcoin to have a chance at reclaiming $40,000 price levels.


 https://cointelegraph.com/news/pay-attention-grayscale-adds-18x-the-bitcoin-mined-supply-in-one-day

Sometimes I think these big BTC owners have these shell companies where they move them around to keep increasing the value.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4286 on: January 19, 2021, 07:23:55 AM »
Sometimes I think these big BTC owners have these shell companies where they move them around to keep increasing the value.


Well, we don't even know who made the stuff to begin with so I'm sure it's all on the up and up.  ;D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4287 on: January 19, 2021, 09:24:10 AM »

Well, we don't even know who made the stuff to begin with so I'm sure it's all on the up and up.  ;D
No kidding.  If one day Bitcoin just disappears we are going to see meltdowns never witnessed before in history.

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« Reply #4288 on: January 19, 2021, 09:44:46 AM »
BTCS stock ticker seems to be the method big company’s are gonna let customers pay bills with crypto makes sense the more crypto goes up the more people will pay bills this way and there’s still a lot of room for it to grow

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4289 on: January 19, 2021, 09:52:08 AM »
No kidding.  If one day Bitcoin just disappears we are going to see meltdowns never witnessed before in history.

If people think the guys who developed this don't have some sort of secret hack or key or backdoor into BTC are fooling themselves.  I bet they can pull back in any coins they want and fuck over everyone.  Since no one even knows the true identity. 

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4290 on: January 19, 2021, 09:53:50 AM »

Bitcoin isn't worth the paper....oh..right...... .

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4291 on: January 19, 2021, 10:20:01 AM »
Bitcoin isn't worth the paper....oh..right...... .
At least you can wipe your ass with paper.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4293 on: January 19, 2021, 12:13:27 PM »
If people think the guys who developed this don't have some sort of secret hack or key or backdoor into BTC are fooling themselves.  I bet they can pull back in any coins they want and fuck over everyone.  Since no one even knows the true identity.



Of course....exactly what Charlie Lee did with Litecoin....cashed out at all time high and claimed it was to divest himself of bias.  Also claims he gave the $$$ away. ::)
 


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4294 on: January 19, 2021, 12:17:54 PM »
If my quick math is correct around 16,000 holders are 62% of the BTC market cap. .



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« Reply #4295 on: January 19, 2021, 12:36:28 PM »
If my quick math is correct around 16,000 holders are 62% of the BTC market cap. .




Who's the 1 person with $5billion worth?

I don't think any of these rich guys are dumb enough to have all of their BTC in one account.  Not after how many people got fucked over during that MTGOX hack.  I would leave like 1000 coins per device/IP to mitigate the potential risk of theft.

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« Reply #4296 on: January 19, 2021, 12:49:02 PM »
Who's the 1 person with $5billion worth?

I don't think any of these rich guys are dumb enough to have all of their BTC in one account.  Not after how many people got fucked over during that MTGOX hack.  I would leave like 1000 coins per device/IP to mitigate the potential risk of theft.

They are not in accounts, they are in off exchange cold wallets. Basically to hack 1 wallet, even if you had the power of a sun 10x greater than the size of earth, it would take you 100000 years or so, there are more combos of seed phrases than atoms in the universe.Has nothing to do with ip.

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« Reply #4297 on: January 19, 2021, 02:42:08 PM »
If my quick math is correct around 16,000 holders are 62% of the BTC market cap. .



In the stock market and banking system, what percentage of people hold all the value? You'll find it is the top 1%. So Bitcoin is no different than traditional markets in that sense. The masses will never have as much as the people at the top.

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« Reply #4298 on: January 19, 2021, 02:43:53 PM »
They are not in accounts, they are in off exchange cold wallets. Basically to hack 1 wallet, even if you had the power of a sun 10x greater than the size of earth, it would take you 100000 years or so, there are more combos of seed phrases than atoms in the universe.Has nothing to do with ip.
Yes I would imagine they have it spread out over various cold storage wallets. And some of it is on exchanges so they can trade with it.

The Winkelvoss twins have their private keys broken up and stored in various banking vaults I believe. But that sounds risky to me. What if one of the vaults is compromised? Now you only have a partial key! I would not do it like that.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4299 on: January 19, 2021, 03:04:59 PM »
In the stock market and banking system, what percentage of people hold all the value? You'll find it is the top 1%. So Bitcoin is no different than traditional markets in that sense. The masses will never have as much as the people at the top.


Yes, and as I've said before...those of us who knew about Bitcoin when it was just pennies were being told it was "people's money" ... an uncontrollable, untaxable, untraceable, decentralized bank buster.

There was an appeal there that is gone, it's just digital ponzi now. 16,000 are looking like gamblers looking for marks.

It's no better than the system we already know - the only thing anonymous is who is on the other side of the trade.