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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7350 on: June 15, 2021, 04:22:51 PM »
Autism

If anyone were able to hack BTC they would most likely be autistic and their reasons probably wouldn't make much sense to us.

This guy hacked 100+ US military,  NASA and FBI websites and computers just because he was curious about UFOs.



I believe he was just looking for a way to get home

Thats why you see most math competitions dominated by chinese yet its nearly always the high funtctioning autuistic white kid that wins. Brilliant  coders.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7351 on: June 15, 2021, 04:28:20 PM »
Check the latest 13F filings in HYG. Usually that bond is very stable and does nothing except when there is a market crash. All the big players have added a bunch of fresh PUTS there. Some have also added huge SPY PUTS.

Lets not forget Michael Burry has warned everyone just like back in 2008.

Other than a few "for amusement" positions I'm not involved, but this isn't good news for crypto. If crypto take a dump this month and then takes another dump because of a stockmarket crash where does that put us. Bitcoin under 10k, Eth under $800? It will be carnage, but those would be some sweet buy in prices

There is always a deflationary event to trigger the inflationary policy. I would use rate rise over tapering QE to trigger a sell off. At least this way QE keeps going and you can justify increasing it when the sell off happens. It also says you acknowledge inflation. If you taper down QE you trigger a sell event you have to restart all over again which is arguably 1 step forward 1 step back. Then again if they are acting like bull market traders right now they’ll taper QE and expect it to rally lol.

Next dump might be 20k region and a bounce to 30k-32k. ETH 1k bounce 1.45k.

If it doesn’t rally from there and it wants a 3rd dip-bounce then we’ll see 14k come into play. ETH 400 region.

Alts require time to fully unwind so there is no rush on those even in the short term. All loaded with downside risk IMO because we will see random alt dumps of 10%+ without any price rally.

Almost there.

Nope, we are still in a range and right at resistance and needing a break above 42.3k.

The window of opportunity is almost closed now. Look at your charts each month on the daily from the 15th onwards. What do you see?

Back half of each month is a come to Jesus meeting………

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« Reply #7352 on: June 15, 2021, 07:03:07 PM »
In my 40+ years of owning real estate (both individual property and family owned), I've never had the government claim eminent domain and take part in condemnation of my land/property. Even in the off chance that they ever did, they practically always provide the real estate owner with fair value compensation.

True. Then again, for someone like me, the USA is where I plan to stay for the rest of my life.
 
If you're looking to liquidate your assets in a bind, that can be detrimental as time could be of the essence. For me, I am a long term HODL'er of real estate.
 
Depends on what type of real estate you own and via what medium. I own everything from land (no real maintenance costs), indwelling units (condos & houses) and shares via REITs. Condos and houses have maintenance costs, but they are also costs I can write off against my taxes, thereby lowering my tax burden.

Depends on what you own and where you rent. If you own in a city that has high demand and rents are typically high, then getting and keeping tenants can be very simple. Additionally, if you don't like taking part in any "ongoing effort", get yourself a property manager (recommended if you own more than 5 properties at least).

On acquisition, you can typically share the tax burden between the seller/buyer (makes it easier to stomach). Ongoing property taxes is a way of life, if you earn income in this country you HAVE to pay taxes one way or another (I find ways to lower tax burden). I don't agree with the notion that you have to pay capital gains on any sale to the tune of a "massive amount". This isn't true. As an accountant, I can tell you that if you were to sell a property, I can offset every last cost of repair, most of your interests paid during holding of that asset, cost of your realtor fee and closing costs for your entire transaction. I can easily turn that 15-20% to a measly 7-9% and MOST accountants can.

This last year and a half, mortgages have been given out for practically nothing. Interest rates have been at an all time low. It's free money they're lending out. Great time to be leveraged over the last 1.5 years.

Unless God is creating more land or the oceans are receding and revealing more earth to build upon, not sure I can agree with the virtually unlimited supply.

Still, I would argue highly that when comparing apples to oranges, real estate is still an exponentially better hedge against inflation than Bitcoin.

"1"

Well, that's a very American-centric view, as opposed to the reality in most of the world. Further, if history has taught us anything, its that not to take "normality" for granted. Property makes you entirely subject to to Government intervention, theft, tax, regulation, acquisition, war, politics, monetary policy, local economy, etc,  I wouldn't say property is a bad investment, but it comes with risks many under-estimate.

For the record, I have far far more net worth in property than in BTC, though not so much through private residences that I own (I do have a few places in various countries), but rather through REITs which give me global diversification, instant liquidity, and with no hassle of any maintenance etc. Still, I think BTC has it place, and will show its value when most needed, which I why I recommend everyone to become a whole-coiner whilst still possible and to have some % of portfolio allocated to BTC.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7353 on: June 16, 2021, 12:38:34 AM »
Today we get the Fed rate meeting result……

BTC long coins 48k - this is a record high
BTC short coins 25k

Binance has more Bitcoin loaded on its exchange right now than at 64.5k.

So we have exchanges loaded with coins plus record high level of longs and in 10hrs or so the Fed announces their rates of which they have been threatened by hedge funds who say they will go all in on commodities and send inflation to Mars unless they raise rates today…..

But according to Twitter it’s a huge short squeeze……..

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7354 on: June 16, 2021, 03:58:24 AM »
Thats why you see most math competitions dominated by chinese yet its nearly always the high funtctioning autuistic white kid that wins. Brilliant  coders.

Don't the Chinee have any autistic math savants?

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« Reply #7355 on: June 16, 2021, 04:59:47 AM »
Today we get the Fed rate meeting result……

BTC long coins 48k - this is a record high
BTC short coins 25k

Binance has more Bitcoin loaded on its exchange right now than at 64.5k.

So we have exchanges loaded with coins plus record high level of longs and in 10hrs or so the Fed announces their rates of which they have been threatened by hedge funds who say they will go all in on commodities and send inflation to Mars unless they raise rates today…..

But according to Twitter it’s a huge short squeeze……..

Looks like the rates will probably remain unchanged though.

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« Reply #7356 on: June 16, 2021, 07:49:30 AM »
Looks like the rates will probably remain unchanged though.

Everyone in the system is kicking their own can down the road right now, and no on wants to be the reason for a crash.

Hedge funds have made an ungodly amount of money in the last 5 or so years (cheating the system and it's catching up with them) and now they have no where to park it. I believe until May it was in crypto, a lot of people now believe they are parking it overnight in the repo market because there is no where else.

Banks. FED, institutions are kinda in a self preservation style Mexican stand off with each other.

Crypto is gonna need a minor miracle right now to avoid taking a dump. The bigger question is one dump or two?

I can see Mr Anabolic cracking his knuckles, fingers hovering over his keyboard

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7357 on: June 16, 2021, 08:47:25 AM »
Everyone in the system is kicking their own can down the road right now, and no on wants to be the reason for a crash.

Hedge funds have made an ungodly amount of money in the last 5 or so years (cheating the system and it's catching up with them) and now they have no where to park it. I believe until May it was in crypto, a lot of people now believe they are parking it overnight in the repo market because there is no where else.

Banks. FED, institutions are kinda in a self preservation style Mexican stand off with each other.

Crypto is gonna need a minor miracle right now to avoid taking a dump. The bigger question is one dump or two?

I can see Mr Anabolic cracking his knuckles, fingers hovering over his keyboard

Hahaha at the last sentence.

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« Reply #7358 on: June 16, 2021, 03:29:35 PM »
He still logs in, but hasn't posted for 6 months LMAO. I hope he posts and enjoys himself if bitcoin dumps below 10K.

If there is an economic crash it will actually be really interesting to see just how and why bitcoin crashes (if at all) and how it responds.

This will actually give us a far better insight into the long term prospects of bitcoin than a 65k bitcoin price in a bull run.


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« Reply #7359 on: June 16, 2021, 03:46:38 PM »
Everyone in the system is kicking their own can down the road right now, and no on wants to be the reason for a crash.

Hedge funds have made an ungodly amount of money in the last 5 or so years (cheating the system and it's catching up with them) and now they have no where to park it. I believe until May it was in crypto, a lot of people now believe they are parking it overnight in the repo market because there is no where else.

Banks. FED, institutions are kinda in a self preservation style Mexican stand off with each other.

Crypto is gonna need a minor miracle right now to avoid taking a dump. The bigger question is one dump or two?

I can see Mr Anabolic cracking his knuckles, fingers hovering over his keyboard

You thinking players rotate out of equities and move into commodities?

Would solve the sky high valuation of share prices and PE ratios if it had a pullback.

Fed will still do 120B/mth bond purchases so QE ain’t stopping and nor should stimmy cheques.


Any 50%+ first dump has always resulted in a 70%-85% end price either over a few months to 12 months.

Price range 9.6k-19.6k.

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« Reply #7360 on: June 16, 2021, 04:17:01 PM »
He still logs in, but hasn't posted for 6 months LMAO. I hope he posts and enjoys himself if bitcoin dumps below 10K.

If there is an economic crash it will actually be really interesting to see just how and why bitcoin crashes (if at all) and how it responds.

This will actually give us a far better insight into the long term prospects of bitcoin than a 65k bitcoin price in a bull run.

Gold having a puke. I’m eyeing where it lands as I would like to buy gold but I’ll go the paper contract route.

Dont believe anything about bitcoin being decoupled.l from financial markets. Nobody flocks to the 0.6B market carp Bitcoin for safety, that’s what the 10T market cap gold is for and look at that today, complete 🤮

Just wait and you’ll see dude re BTC crash. I am at peak retard right now and this all feels like it needs
To happen.

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« Reply #7361 on: June 16, 2021, 05:12:18 PM »
Gold having a puke. I’m eyeing where it lands as I would like to buy gold but I’ll go the paper contract route.

Dont believe anything about bitcoin being decoupled.l from financial markets. Nobody flocks to the 0.6B market carp Bitcoin for safety, that’s what the 10T market cap gold is for and look at that today, complete 🤮

Just wait and you’ll see dude re BTC crash. I am at peak retard right now and this all feels like it needs
To happen.

Tether could hit the shitter in a serious financial crash. It's balls deep in the stockmarket and holds very little $. So market trust in crypto and BTC will crash harder than anyone is expecting. Under these circumstances it may look like BTC is dead, but it could potentially emerge as a phoenix from the ashes, especially if we enter an economic depression and BTC rockets. That's what I'll be looking for to help convince me that BTC is legit. At the very least there should be some gains to be made.

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« Reply #7362 on: June 16, 2021, 08:59:35 PM »
He still logs in, but hasn't posted for 6 months LMAO. I hope he posts and enjoys himself if bitcoin dumps below 10K.

If there is an economic crash it will actually be really interesting to see just how and why bitcoin crashes (if at all) and how it responds.

This will actually give us a far better insight into the long term prospects of bitcoin than a 65k bitcoin price in a bull run.

Mr A has predicted a stock market crash every year since 2010 onwards until 2020. So far, he has not had a single year of being correct, although even a broken clock will eventually tell the correct time for a split second...

Regarding Bitcoin he called it a bubble and "vaporware" back when it was just $300 per coin. His stubbornness and pig-headedness did not work out well for him (at least in these areas of investing - I suspect in others areas he must have done OK).


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« Reply #7363 on: June 16, 2021, 09:05:23 PM »
No doubt the last 7-8 years have been strange. Nothing makes sense. Central planners will keep their pedal on the gas until the tires come off it seems.

John Maynard Keynes  - “The stock market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”

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« Reply #7364 on: June 16, 2021, 10:00:01 PM »
Tether could hit the shitter in a serious financial crash. It's balls deep in the stockmarket and holds very little $. So market trust in crypto and BTC will crash harder than anyone is expecting. Under these circumstances it may look like BTC is dead, but it could potentially emerge as a phoenix from the ashes, especially if we enter an economic depression and BTC rockets. That's what I'll be looking for to help convince me that BTC is legit. At the very least there should be some gains to be made.

Thanks for the input, always good insight.

USD up almost 1% which is a warning shot fired. Deflationary event before inflationary policy and outcome.

I agree if this triggers a large market sell off Bitcoin gunna get fucked into oblivion. Back half of the month never a rally ;)

The question is going to be whether they gun for Saylor. What if that 500M he raised is to protect his share price? Everyone assumes it’s for BTC but if BTC price gets dumped hard they’re gunna short his stock into the ground and he has a duty to shareholders, not just his Bitcoin fantasy…….

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« Reply #7365 on: June 16, 2021, 10:04:20 PM »
For what it’s worth, according to Bollinger himself in a tweet, the current range is the bottom for BTC.

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« Reply #7366 on: June 16, 2021, 10:10:57 PM »
 Microstrategy will be buying another $1 billion of BTC.

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« Reply #7367 on: June 16, 2021, 10:17:57 PM »
Microstrategy will be buying another $1 billion of BTC.

News that retail Twitter has FOMO’d into the price already.

How about this one….

The debt raise of 500M is used to defend the share price.

The sale of 1B in shares is for purchase of BtC after he defends the share price and keeps the business alive…..

For what it’s worth, according to Bollinger himself in a tweet, the current range is the bottom for BTC.

Yeah and you watch him backpedal “oh I meant bottom of the existing range”.

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« Reply #7368 on: June 16, 2021, 10:37:21 PM »
News that retail Twitter has FOMO’d into the price already.

How about this one….

The debt raise of 500M is used to defend the share price.

The sale of 1B in shares is for purchase of BtC after he defends the share price and keeps the business alive…..

Yeah and you watch him backpedal “oh I meant bottom of the existing range”.

Either way, another $1 billion is going into BTC.

This is what Bollinger said:

“Bottom in place, prices trying to move higher, first real target is the bottom side of the prior range, call it 48 to 50k. Play it as it lays. $btcusd #Bitcoin “

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« Reply #7369 on: June 16, 2021, 11:42:35 PM »
Over time I think we will easily see another Trillion go into BTC. Could happen quite fast too..

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« Reply #7370 on: June 16, 2021, 11:46:13 PM »


Try to repay China debt with those 'coins'  :D

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« Reply #7371 on: June 17, 2021, 01:19:20 AM »
Either way, another $1 billion is going into BTC.

This is what Bollinger said:

“Bottom in place, prices trying to move higher, first real target is the bottom side of the prior range, call it 48 to 50k. Play it as it lays. $btcusd #Bitcoin “

Yeah the bottom for this range is what he means, not the proper bottom dude ;)

If it was 1B by Apple or Facebook then sure, I’d be happy. But this is 1B by the same largest buyer since the pandemic who has constantly increased his own downside risk exposure and also the downside risk to every holder.

Quite a few models have broken now and the influencers continue to laugh it off and ridicule/block anybody who questions the breaking. Everyone looks like a hero when it goes up and then 97% get wrecked when it goes down.

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« Reply #7372 on: June 17, 2021, 02:54:42 AM »
News that retail Twitter has FOMO’d into the price already.

How about this one….

The debt raise of 500M is used to defend the share price.

The sale of 1B in shares is for purchase of BtC after he defends the share price and keeps the business alive…..

Yeah and you watch him backpedal “oh I meant bottom of the existing range”.

Im going to play devils advocate. 600m senior secured notes raised due by 2028 at 6.128%.  Do you think btc wont perform at 6.128% a year by 2028?  I expect  hedge funds to load up at a nice premium via MSTR.  My money is on the billionaire who lives in a pirateship.  I dont see a 70% dip from this price point.....but hey if it does, great entry point for you and flex.

This guy will go down with his ship or re write the investors playbook in a fast growing globally recognised new asset class. Microsteategy is his baby and has been for the last 30 years, you dont just kill off your children by gambling their future with nonsensical bets. I feel he has some inside info of whats coming back end of this year and obviously long term.

Im not sure what the Twitter landscape is saying but it works both ways. Takes a couple.more billionaires or institutions to dump a couple of billion into the market and every bear model you know breaks.


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« Reply #7373 on: June 17, 2021, 03:09:39 AM »
The negativity has reached puke inducing levels.

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« Reply #7374 on: June 17, 2021, 03:49:08 AM »
Over time I think we will easily see another Trillion go into BTC. Could happen quite fast too..

This was my original assertion. Institutions buying back in (hedge funds mostly), but I have my doubts now. Where do you see that money coming from?

Also the discussion around a billion or 2 entering the market doesn't really make a dent into the 1 trillion that dumped out of crypto. Let's put that into perspective, that's 1,000 billion!

I'm gonna menstruate. It's quad witching day tomorrow. I'm expecting a 25% BTC dump very soon.