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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7400 on: June 18, 2021, 09:40:06 PM »
Yesterday:
BTC long coins down 2.7% (47k coins long)
BTC short coins down 12% (22k coins short)

A mountain of shorts closed in yesterday’s market sell off action meanwhile Longs basically didn’t flinch.

2/3 of the total longs are underwater on price (36k+) and opened during the retail FOMO phase from February onwards. This doesn’t mean they are in distress but you just have to be aware.


Friday’s Fed meeting was a deflationary event trigger and the USD is responding as a result. This means recent inflation will unwind for a period.

Chart is DXY performance, note the 2 downswings correlate with 2017 and 20-21 BTC bullruns. Target is 0.98 which history says might be 3 months or so to stabilise that level. From there we need to see what QE packages get pumped in to reverse direction which will take time.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7401 on: June 19, 2021, 03:47:00 AM »
It wasn't Elon that caused that crash, it was a hedge fund! (Musk was just used to provide a smokescreen for the crash) The timeline of it all makes a damn good case to suggest Saylor, Elon and the hedgefunds are working together to manipulate the market.

What caused the current drop from the top to where we are now is Coinbase going public. As usual, there was a plethora of media hit jobs telling people to look at the pie in the sky and, sure enough, Real Money took the price where it wanted it because they have access to a lot of money and knowledge of where price/limit stop pools are. They can literally price-crash BTC to wherever they want.   

Secondly, there is the Damocles sword of the Mt. Gox coins, which are STILL hitting the market. Especially Japanese whales, whom, due to legal constraints in Japan, cannot private-place the coins and must dump them in the market in a specified time period. It is OBVIOUSLY clear that some of the Japanese whales bought the stolen BTC from the Russian dude that hacked Mt. Gox and are selling on the hush-hush.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7402 on: June 19, 2021, 03:58:26 AM »
Friday’s Fed meeting was a deflationary event trigger and the USD is responding as a result. This means recent inflation will unwind for a period.

Chart is DXY performance, note the 2 downswings correlate with 2017 and 20-21 BTC bullruns. Target is 0.98 which history says might be 3 months or so to stabilise that level. From there we need to see what QE packages get pumped in to reverse direction which will take time.

DXY is on a "dead cat bounce." IF it clears 93.50 we can then reassess but, as of right now, there is no deflationary risk. Another clue is that everyone and their mothers-in-law is expecting another deflationary shock, hence it won't happen. Powers-that-be will take the DXY into the mid 80s if they need to. 

Lots of people being shown the precipice, lots of fear mongering, both on the USD front, the equity markets as well as cryptos. That, to me, is a sign that Big Money is looking to take everything higher. The next economic retracement isn't going to be a recession, it's going to be a nasty depression and the markets are going to go to really stupid levels before the house of cards comes down. I believe, from an EW standpoint, we're on an extended wave 5 of 5 of 5 of 5 of 5. "Toppy" isn't the word, it's what comes next.

My two cents. 

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7403 on: June 19, 2021, 04:09:55 AM »
Saylor is on a Win/Win/lose course.  Perhaps he has some knowledge  that the upcoming ETFs will be denied and still years away from  approval. Converts Microstrategy into a perceived ETF. Hedge funds come in via MSTR. Thats a win.

ETFs are approved, btc shoots up. MS is now the proud owner of 122k BTC at a blended rate of 24k. Thats a win.

BTC takes a dump, breaking all models before it drops below 15k. His shareholders abandon ship.... temporarily. Thats a lose.ock and save the webpage in your browser.

The ETF will happen very soon. The SEC is getting daily calls from Big Money asking them to get their shit together. We have multiple foreign ETFs in place and, not having one in the US, makes the SEC look extremely inefficient. I think the ones that are closest to one getting approved are the Grayscale folks. Their OTC product is trading at a discount (!!!) and, rumor has it, applied PRIVATELY to turn their BTC and ETH products into ETFs. Next in line will be the Winklevoss' ETF and then everybody else.

Again, the SEC is under extreme pressure to get this approved very soon. Lots of money going to foreign funds. Uncle Sam no like that. 

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7404 on: June 19, 2021, 12:58:45 PM »
What caused the current drop from the top to where we are now is Coinbase going public. As usual, there was a plethora of media hit jobs telling people to look at the pie in the sky and, sure enough, Real Money took the price where it wanted it because they have access to a lot of money and knowledge of where price/limit stop pools are. They can literally price-crash BTC to wherever they want.   

Secondly, there is the Damocles sword of the Mt. Gox coins, which are STILL hitting the market. Especially Japanese whales, whom, due to legal constraints in Japan, cannot private-place the coins and must dump them in the market in a specified time period. It is OBVIOUSLY clear that some of the Japanese whales bought the stolen BTC from the Russian dude that hacked Mt. Gox and are selling on the hush-hush.

I can see the coinbase angle as BTC hit ATH around then, but I still think there is more to it.

These points can all easily be verified

May 4th the SEC dropped that crypto could no longer used by hedgefunds to pass liquidity tests. So what happens if hedgefunds had staked coins in defi? Projects like uniswap and pancakeswap would start dumping due to hedgefunds removing their staked coins. That's exactly what started happening early May.

May 12th ETH hits an all time high and then dumps. As mentioned earlier May 13th was a liquidity stress test for a giant hedefund and crypto holdings don't help them anymore. Another coincidence?

Tether also shows the movement of money corresponding to all this.

The coinbase, MtGox angles will without doubt effect the price of BTC, but it looks like the SEC shut the game down (for now)

To me it's looking like some hedgefunds and possibly banks will hit the shitter soon, (the archegos/credit suisse stuff is just the tip of the iceberg) so everything is being reigned in and tightened up to avoid too much collateral damage. Once that's done and their assets are picked clean by the likes of BlackRock, I expect all the crazy bubbles to resume.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7405 on: June 19, 2021, 04:48:08 PM »
DXY is on a "dead cat bounce." IF it clears 93.50 we can then reassess but, as of right now, there is no deflationary risk. Another clue is that everyone and their mothers-in-law is expecting another deflationary shock, hence it won't happen. Powers-that-be will take the DXY into the mid 80s if they need to. 

Lots of people being shown the precipice, lots of fear mongering, both on the USD front, the equity markets as well as cryptos. That, to me, is a sign that Big Money is looking to take everything higher. The next economic retracement isn't going to be a recession, it's going to be a nasty depression and the markets are going to go to really stupid levels before the house of cards comes down. I believe, from an EW standpoint, we're on an extended wave 5 of 5 of 5 of 5 of 5. "Toppy" isn't the word, it's what comes next.

My two cents.

I should clarify when I say deflationary event i mean anything from small-large, essentially a sell off event of some kind which relates across many segments. I’m not saying this is a biblical crash by any means.

The problem with your theory is the banks just put a record 0.8T of cash back in with the Fed to earn interest.

JPM and others have also said they are hoarding cash. A stack of the QE isn’t entering the market and instead is being held back in cash therefore big money isn’t looking to take the market to take it higher, they see the markets are at risk due to extreme high PE ratios and parabolic nature of some commodities (eg lumber) which ironically they caused.

It’s a good example of why QE is not the answer. All they did was cause cost push inflation when what they want is demand pull inflation. We have just seen a point where even with free money, banks lose confidence in the market and begin hoarding cash.

It might be June/July for things to work itself out.

Regarding crypto, All they needed to do was get it to 42.2k and at that point a wave of liquidity enters (massive order book above 42k). It’d go straight to 47k, instant 15% gain if they get it there. This is no secret, instant riches!!!!  We know the cash is there to do it. institutions are loaded to the eyeballs with cash yet just like the rest of the market they don’t want to put it into the system and this includes crypto.

Flex gave me good advice. Be more retarded. It truly is as simple as this:

Retail buyers are the bag holders of last resort. Institutions do not FOMO over the top of a retail FOMO.

We go down until retail is rug pulled and squeezed out.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7406 on: June 20, 2021, 12:10:11 AM »
Ethereum classic is down around 70% from its peak a few months ago.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7407 on: June 20, 2021, 03:02:38 AM »
Ethereum classic is down around 70% from its peak a few months ago.

Almost all alts will fade to zero, leaving only a handful of lats remaining. Safest risk vs reward approach is BTC to the MAX, then HODL. If we all collectively adopt the same approach, we all will succeed.

Also, if you look at nations adopting cypto, look at what they are sticking with. Its Bitcoin (obviously) and nothing else. El Salvador started, and many more will follow.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7408 on: June 20, 2021, 05:27:05 AM »
Here is something for anyone interested in bitcoin to ponder.

Is the value of bitcoin the digital ‘scarcity’ or is the value of bitcoin the energy input?


I’m happy to answer any questions but outside of that, this is my last post.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7409 on: June 20, 2021, 07:54:07 AM »
Here is something for anyone interested in bitcoin to ponder.

Is the value of bitcoin the digital ‘scarcity’ or is the value of bitcoin the energy input?


I’m happy to answer any questions but outside of that, this is my last post.


Neither. It's first mover advantage plus viral FOMO.

The energy is wasted, not stored. Elon has shone a light on that.

Don't even get me started on scarcity, haha.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7410 on: June 20, 2021, 08:30:32 AM »
Cryptocurrency payments coming to some Texas H-E-B stores


AUSTIN (KXAN) — Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin and Dogecoin, the meme-originated favorite of Elon Musk, will soon be options for payment at some H-E-B grocery stores in Texas.

The Houston Chronicle reports currency provider Coin Cloud will soon begin placing kiosks in several stores where customers will both be able to make purchases using the digital currency, but will also be able to purchase more coins.

An H-E-B representative told Houston Chronicle the pilot program will start in 29 Houston-area stores. The machines will also be Coin Cloud’s 2,00th machine.

Worldwide, more and more businesses are starting to embrace cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, which is the most popular. Currently, 1 Bitcoin equals about $36,120.20 in U.S. dollars. Second most popular is Ethereum: 1 Ether currently equals $2,225.98 U.S. dollars.

Despite their surging popularity, many investors and experts still lack faith in them as long-term investments, citing volatility and uncertainty around
value retention.

 https://www.kxan.com/news/business/cryptocurrency-payments-coming-to-some-texas-h-e-b-stores/

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7411 on: June 20, 2021, 11:06:55 AM »
These companies are accepting crypto knowing almost no one will buy using crypto.  For any crypto currency the company gets will just be stored up hoping it goes up big again.

Why would any crypto investor use it to buy anything?  You could end up paying 1000X what the original cost of the product was.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7412 on: June 20, 2021, 11:09:24 AM »
These companies are accepting crypto knowing almost no one will buy using crypto.  For any crypto currency the company gets will just be stored up hoping it goes up big again.

Why would any crypto investor use it to buy anything?  You could end up paying 1000X what the original cost of the product was.

You forgot to add the big one. FREE ADVERTISING!

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« Reply #7413 on: June 20, 2021, 11:11:06 AM »
You forgot to add the big one. FREE ADVERTISING!
True.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7414 on: June 20, 2021, 01:30:07 PM »
sell your house and all in, guys
the getbigger's wealth myth will become a reality for each of us !



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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7415 on: June 20, 2021, 07:06:05 PM »
When I buy my Lambo I'm not letting any of you no-coiners ride in it.


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« Reply #7416 on: June 20, 2021, 07:30:35 PM »
When I buy my Lambo I'm not letting any of you no-coiners ride in it.



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« Reply #7417 on: June 20, 2021, 08:35:10 PM »
These companies are accepting crypto knowing almost no one will buy using crypto.  For any crypto currency the company gets will just be stored up hoping it goes up big again.

Why would any crypto investor use it to buy anything?  You could end up paying 1000X what the original cost of the product was.

Would you rather accept a currency that loses value over time (ie the USD) one that gains over time (ie BTC)? Provided you can manage your short term cashflow, the answer should be obvious...

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« Reply #7418 on: June 20, 2021, 10:11:21 PM »
Would you rather accept a currency that loses value over time (ie the USD) one that gains over time (ie BTC)? Provided you can manage your short term cashflow, the answer should be obvious...

He basically admitted crypto could go up 1000x from here.....

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« Reply #7419 on: June 21, 2021, 03:29:43 AM »
Would you rather accept a currency that loses value over time (ie the USD) one that gains over time (ie BTC)? Provided you can manage your short term cashflow, the answer should be obvious...
Reading comprehension.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7420 on: June 21, 2021, 06:00:33 AM »
Crypto could be a tool for "Pareto's Foxes" in a ZIRP world.

The moneychangers must have their shell game.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7421 on: June 21, 2021, 06:22:01 AM »
Thread title looking realistic now lol.

I'm hoping it completely crashes again so I can get in for the next pump.

Even at this point it's a bit of a silly investment unless you have a big amount of play money like our getbig whales. It's too much risk just to double or triple your money.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7422 on: June 21, 2021, 09:27:50 AM »
Thread title looking realistic now lol.

I'm hoping it completely crashes again so I can get in for the next pump.

Even at this point it's a bit of a silly investment unless you have a big amount of play money like our getbig whales. It's too much risk just to double or triple your money.

omg you crypto trading wizards are going to make so much money it's going to be so badass

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #7424 on: June 21, 2021, 09:42:56 AM »
this ponzi scheme is hitting its end